Manchester United vs. Newcastle United

orton2005 said:
-------------- VDS ----------------
Gaz ----- Rio ------ Vidic ---- Gabby

Fletcher - Scholes - Carrick - Ronaldo

--------- Saha ----- Rooney ------


I agree.. perfect, bring Ole on in the 2nd half for Fletch.

I hope Rooney decides to rediscover his form against these boys! :devil:

United 3-1 Newcastle

United: Saha, Ronaldo, Rooney
Newcastle: Parker
 
orton2005 said:
Fletcher to play instead of O'Shit and back to the 442 formation.

-------------- VDS ----------------
Gaz ----- Rio ------ Vidic ---- Gabby

Fletcher - Scholes - Carrick - Ronaldo

--------- Saha ----- Rooney ------

Agreed

Although I won't be surprised if SAF tinkers with this 433 bollox again
 
feck, Bramble is suspended. That must be a major boost for Newcastle.
 
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               vds
    gary    rio    vidic    gab
   ronaldo carrick scholes evra
           rooney saha
6-0
 
Seems the majority of people on here think we're gonna win. Shame I and a few others don't share your optimism.

Felt we were lucky to take all 3 points off Celtic, Arsenal were (as much as it pains me to say it) the worthy winners that day, Reading were perhaps unlucky not to get all 3 points and Benfica can feel aggrieved to have got bugger all on Tuesday.

Apart from the Fulham game at the start of the season when I remember turning to the old dears next to me in the West Stand and expressing surprise at how well we'd played, I've seen performances getting worse and worse.

We seem to show very little movement up front presenting few if any options for our midfielders who, at best, pass sideways or backwards.

Rooney's lack of match experience since his foot injury is very clearly evident and far from improving, I thought I saw his worst game for United on Tuesday night. He seemed unable to even control a simple pass to him and he barely managed a successful pass to a team mate all night. Never has someone with such ability looked so second rate.

So I'm less confident of the desired result on Sunday. Giggsy's injury came at a very bad time both for him and us. And with no replacement, a midfield lacking cohesion and understanding and a very indifferent Rooney, I'm hoping Saha can pull off another masterful goal or two to win us the 3 points, otherwise the Geordies will have the points.

F
 
Law said:
why do you idiots presume because we beat newcastle last season we'll automatically beat them this time ?? where's the feckin logic there ? ... obafemi martens (spelling?) is starting to knock them in now and we're hardly scoring bucketloads, our best player is still out injured and our greedy bastard one man portuguese roadshow is gonna run out of steam soon .. a draw at best


Way to support the team.
 
We will win. Newcastle are pretty shite. It doesnt take a perfect display to beat them and even if we are not on form i wont change my opinion. 2 or 3 nil sounds quite realistic to me.
 
------------VDS-------------

--Gaz------Rio------Vidic-----Heinze--

--Ronaodo--Scholes--Carrick--Evra/Ole--

----------Saha-----Rooney------

I hope we go with a 442 like this. But I expect SAF to stick O'Shea in the middle, play Rooney out wide and Saha as the lone front man :(

2-0 or 3-0 to us hopefully.
 
orton2005 said:
Fletcher to play instead of O'Shit and back to the 442 formation.

-------------- VDS ----------------
Gaz ----- Rio ------ Vidic ---- Gabby

Fletcher - Scholes - Carrick - Ronaldo

--------- Saha ----- Rooney ------

Completely agree. Final Score: 2-1 to United. Rooney, Scholes.
 
Newcastle Midfield

Duff----Parker----Emre----Milner

Better on the whole than anything we can field. Yes we have scholes and Ronny but the other three mf players we use would never get into their midfield.

Gloom and Doom
 
Whiteside said:
Newcastle Midfield

Duff----Parker----Emre----Milner

Better on the whole than anything we can field. Yes we have scholes and Ronny but the other three mf players we use would never get into their midfield.

Gloom and Doom

I'd have Duff and Parker at United without a moments hesitation.

I take it Rossi can't play?
 
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Edwin van der Sar insists United need to rediscover the art of beating the Premiership's less-fancied teams, starting on Sunday. :o

The Reds' failure to match Chelsea's charge to the Premiership title last season came about largely through a failure to do just that. :cool:

And, following last week's draw at promoted Reading, this weekend's clash with Newcastle has taken on extra significance as the Reds aim to stay in touch with the champions.

"Reading was the kind of game we needed to win," said van der Sar. :confused:

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"It was matches like that which cost us last year. We believe we have matured, so the focus is now on Newcastle and ensuring the same thing does not happen again." :nervous:

Van der Sar appreciates the task will be aided by the return of Gabriel Heinze, who caught the eye against Benfica in only his second game back from injury. :eek:

"Gaby is a quality player," he said. "He came back into the team against Reading last week and then did really well against Benfica. :)

"He has been injured for a long time but we are all hoping he can stay fit now because he is such a huge asset to the team."
:drool:
 
heightmassive said:
I'd have Duff and Parker at United without a moments hesitation.

Me too. Parker has been extremely impressive so far - he's been the only defensive strength at Newcastle + he's been great going forward.

He would be perfect for our current squad.

Regarding Duff. He wouldn't be a starter if Giggs was fit, but he would still make a brilliant backup.
 
Top said:
Me too. Parker has been extremely impressive so far - he's been the only defensive strength at Newcastle + he's been great going forward.

He would be perfect for our current squad.

Regarding Duff. He wouldn't be a starter if Giggs was fit, but he would still make a brilliant backup.

I was keen for us to sign Duff when he left Blackburn, shame we didn't, he proved himself in Europe with Chelsea, always saw him as a united player.
 
2-1 to United, Rio and Rooney for us and Parker for them
 
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John O'Shea says United are determined to maintain their unbeaten record against Newcastle at Old Trafford on Sunday and get their league campaign back on track. :o

The Toon Army have never won a Premiership game on United's home patch and go in to Sunday's trip on the back of three league defeats already this season. :cool:

United meanwhile have taken just one point out of a possible six from their last two matches against Arsenal and Reading. :nono:

Despite only trailing Chelsea by two points, O'Shea insists United are determined not to let Jose Mourinho's side get too far ahead and are aiming to get back to winning ways on Sunday. :confused:

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"The Arsenal result was a good wake-up call for us," he tells United Review ahead of the game. We’d been comfortable and played well in the four league games leading up to the match and we thought we could go out against Arsenal and do the same. :nervous:

"But against the teams at the higher end of the league you really have to be focused and perhaps we weren’t as focused as we have been in years gone by. :eek:

"We improved our home form last season but if we’re going to be champions we’ll have to improve it again this season,"
added O'Shea. "It’s certainly achievable and that’s what we’re all striving for because we don't want to be in the position when we're having to do the chasing again. :)

"Sunday’s game is another one of those matches we’re expected to win and we need to do that."
:drool:
 
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Giuseppe Rossi's loan to Newcastle was the right career move for the player, according to assistant manager Carlos Queiroz. :devil:

The young Italian striker joined the Magpies on a four-month loan at the end of August, but is yet to start a match and has made only three substitute appearances. :wenger:

Carlos said: "Of course with loan players it is to give them more opportunities to play. And the more they play, the more they’re rewarded. If they don’t play as much as we would expect it’s not good.

"The probabilities of having opportunities here were less than with other clubs, which is why we created this opportunity for him. We have players like Alan, Ole, Wayne, Cristiano and Louis coming in with experience, so I think going to Newcastle was the right decision to create more opportunities to play.


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"We cannot dictate this player plays so many games. But this level of football is not a gift. Nothing comes easy. We cannot create a false environment for talents. They need to learn what it’s about to fight for a position in a team and to rebound from defeat. :(

The Portuguese coach admits Rossi needs to make the breakthrough into Glenn Roeder's side through his own exertions, not simply because he has come from United. :smirk:

He said: "They should play because they deserve to play because the team needs them to play, not just because the player has a big name and comes from a certain club.

"Players need to be talented, mentally tough, ready to fight on a daily basis for a position. It is part of the progression and learning process of those players to be in those difficult environments.
;)

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"I always used to say that it’s like somebody in the police. In the training facilities to shoot it is one thing, when you are in front of the bandits it’s a different story.

"So the talents need to cross that line and leave a protecting environment. If they don’t then they’ll never learn how difficult it is and how important it is to fight for a position in the team."
:angel:
 
Careful on Martins, he a fast paced striker, I often watch him since he was with Inter at Serie A. And he scored twice against Levadia.

1 - 0 for us, Rooney.

TheRedFlag said:
0-1 Brown 89' OG
LOL, I think that TRF account has been hacked by Slabber recently.
 
Stuff the Goat said:
Any channel showing this game live ? Last season someone posted a link to a foreign stream that showed most games live. It cost £5 to join for season. I have forgotten/lost that link, but I think it was scandanavian ! Anyone know it ?

Not allowed to post streams anymore, PM and I'll sent you links
 
----------VDS-----
Gaz---Rio----Vidic------Heinze
Fletcher---Carrick---Scholes---Ronaldo
----Rooney------Saha-------

6-1.
 
why are so many people saying parker and duff should be in our midfield? are you all mad? parker is an average premiership midfielder and damien duff has been overrated since day1.
 
I feel Martins will be dangerous. Emre and Parker are the ones to look out for.
But with Vidic and Heinze back I don't feel to worried.

3-1 Rooney, Scholes, Saha, Martins