Saturday 29th December 2012
Barclays Premier League
Old Trafford, Manchester
KO: 1500 GMT
Manchester United vs. West Bromwich Albion
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Saturday 29th December 2012
Barclays Premier League
Old Trafford, Manchester
KO: 1500 GMT
Twelve goal thriller.
Can we get an easy win, from time to time ?
I'd like to see:
-----------De Gea----------
Rafael--Smalling--Vidic--Evra
------------Carrick---------
Cleverley------------Kagawa/Young
-----------Rooney----------
---Hernandez-----Van Persie
Edit: seems Rooney is injured and will miss 2-3 weeks
-----------De Gea----------
Rafael--Smalling--Vidic--Evra
------------Carrick---------
Cleverley------------Kagawa/Young
-----------Rooney----------
---Hernandez-----Van Persie
Edit: seems Rooney is injured and will miss 2-3 weeks
This is good, they're shit.
So are Newcastle!
You don't pay much attention do you?
...I tried to find a picture of Steve Clarke laughing to portray my opinion on this post and how wrong it is.
There are none.
De gea
Jones Ferdinand Vidic evra
Valencia Carrick cleverley young
Rooney van Persie
This please. When is Rafael supposed to be back? If he's ready for this then play him. Not sure if lung is actually injured or not, also not sure if kagawa will be ready. Hopefully we don't get any more injuries though and we're back to full strength by the time New Years comes along. Anderson, nani, kagawa, all should be back by then.
Jones Ferdinand Vidic evra
Valencia Carrick cleverley young
Rooney van Persie
This please. When is Rafael supposed to be back? If he's ready for this then play him. Not sure if lung is actually injured or not, also not sure if kagawa will be ready. Hopefully we don't get any more injuries though and we're back to full strength by the time New Years comes along. Anderson, nani, kagawa, all should be back by then.
holy shit they're fifth. sorry, my bad. I don't pay attention to other teams results during this period. Only after Jan is when I usually look at the table for other teams.
We need Vidic for Lukaku... and someone quick for the others.
West Brom have done very well this season.. but you'd expect a win at home.
West Brom have done very well this season.. but you'd expect a win at home.
We'll need a strong midfield as well. That's where WBA are best, imo, with Mulumbu, Morrison and Yacob.
Who does City have next?
Norwich
Can we have Nani miraculously fit for this one? Pretty please miiister Ferguson?
De Gea
Smalling Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia RvP Young
Hernandez
Smalling Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia RvP Young
Hernandez
That's what I would play. If Kagawa is back we should play him behind Van Persie though.
I was speaking with my friend who is a season ticket holder at West Brom.
He reckons Lukaku is a bag of shit, even though he seems to have a good record so far this season, he reckons that we only see his highlights on match of the day but in reality he is actually pretty shit
He reckons Lukaku is a bag of shit, even though he seems to have a good record so far this season, he reckons that we only see his highlights on match of the day but in reality he is actually pretty shit
7-6 for us.
Hopefully this one is more routine.. Giggs and Scholes are guaranteed to not start regardless of whoever is fit in time. Hopefully the injuries to Rooney and Young aren't that bad, or that Kagawa or Nani are fit at last.
Evans had a mixed game so I wouldn't be surprised if Vidic starts, but knowing SAF with his tinkering over Christmas we'll bring Vidic in but replace Ferdinand instead. I'd rather Rafael and Jones at Right Back, but if they're not fit then Smalling it is.
On the basis that everyone who is injured is not back for this...
But I'm expecting at least one of Rooney/Young will be back (they might replace Valencia instead of Hernandez though).
Evans had a mixed game so I wouldn't be surprised if Vidic starts, but knowing SAF with his tinkering over Christmas we'll bring Vidic in but replace Ferdinand instead. I'd rather Rafael and Jones at Right Back, but if they're not fit then Smalling it is.
On the basis that everyone who is injured is not back for this...
de Gea
Smalling Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Hernandez van Persie
Smalling Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Hernandez van Persie
But I'm expecting at least one of Rooney/Young will be back (they might replace Valencia instead of Hernandez though).
Going to this one, so hopefully we can have the great attack of today, but none of the utter wanky defending!
Listening to Fergie's post match interview it seems certain that Fletcher and Cleverley will play. And seems likely Young will be back too.
Hard to tell with Welbeck's illness, but am sure we won't go with him and Hernandez up front.
No mention of Rafael at all, so he must still be out, one of those annoying, "is 50-50" type affairs and ends up missing a month.
Vidic will definitely come in, with probably Rio sitting out.
therefore, I make it
De Gea
Smalling Vidic Evans Evra
Valencia Fletcher Cleverley Young
Van Persie Hernandez
Listening to Fergie's post match interview it seems certain that Fletcher and Cleverley will play. And seems likely Young will be back too.
Hard to tell with Welbeck's illness, but am sure we won't go with him and Hernandez up front.
No mention of Rafael at all, so he must still be out, one of those annoying, "is 50-50" type affairs and ends up missing a month.
Vidic will definitely come in, with probably Rio sitting out.
therefore, I make it
De Gea
Smalling Vidic Evans Evra
Valencia Fletcher Cleverley Young
Van Persie Hernandez
15-14 last shot wins!
De Gea
Smalling-------Evans-------Vidic-------Evra
Carrick--------Cleverley-------Flectcher
Valencia-----RVP------Young
Smalling-------Evans-------Vidic-------Evra
Carrick--------Cleverley-------Flectcher
Valencia-----RVP------Young
Long and Odemwingie didn't start today - that might give us an idea as to who will start at O.T
Might not be a bad shout actually.
Stiffen up the midfield a bit after conceding so many recently, give games to the fresh Cleverley and Fletcher, whilst keeping Hernandez on the bench in case we need to either inject attacking impetus, or rest VP, depending on how it's going.
The bench today was scarily lacking anything attacking.
de Gea
Jones
Smalling
Vidic
Evra
Valencia
Carrick
Cleverley
Young
van Persie
Hernandez
SUBS: Lindegaard, Evans, Buttner, Giggs, Kagawa, Scholes, Hernandez.
Am fairly sure Kagawa will be involved after playing in the warm-up today. Wouldn't be surprised to see Rafael, Young or Welbeck involved as well.
Jones
Smalling
Vidic
Evra
Valencia
Carrick
Cleverley
Young
van Persie
Hernandez
SUBS: Lindegaard, Evans, Buttner, Giggs, Kagawa, Scholes, Hernandez.
Am fairly sure Kagawa will be involved after playing in the warm-up today. Wouldn't be surprised to see Rafael, Young or Welbeck involved as well.
so Rooney out 2-3 weeks.
I expect Spurs away tbh...Liverpool may be too early.
I expect Spurs away tbh...Liverpool may be too early.
You know what would be nice?? Just a quiet, comfortable, 2 or 3 nil win... is that too much to ask for?
de Gea
Smalling Vidic Evans Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Young Kagawa Welbeck
RVP
Smalling Vidic Evans Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Young Kagawa Welbeck
RVP
You could swap one of the 'wide men' for either Fletcher, to add more steel in midfield, or Hernandez, to give Kagawa and RVP someone to feed assists to.
Seems a bit harsh to ask Kagawa to be the creative crux of the side in his first game back, but with Rooney out he's the best option there. You could drop Young/Welbeck, add Fletcher, push Cleverley to CAM and move Kagawa wide, to take some of the pressure off him. But personally I reckon Cleverley's better as a proper midfielder, and a potentially rusty Kagawa is still a stronger option at number 10.
I agree, a workmen like 2-0 - 3-0 with no controversy involving the ref.
Team should be...
GK: DDG
RB: Jones
CB: Vidic
CB: Evans
LB: Evra
RM: Welbeck
CB: Carrick
CM: Fletcher
LM: Cleverley
CF: RVP
CF: Hernandez
Subs: Lindegaard, Ferdinand, Smalling, Buttner, Scholes, Giggs, Valencia
GK: DDG
RB: Jones
CB: Vidic
CB: Evans
LB: Evra
RM: Welbeck
CB: Carrick
CM: Fletcher
LM: Cleverley
CF: RVP
CF: Hernandez
Subs: Lindegaard, Ferdinand, Smalling, Buttner, Scholes, Giggs, Valencia
De Gea
Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Fletcher
Carrick Cleverley
Kagawa
Persie Cheech
Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Fletcher
Carrick Cleverley
Kagawa
Persie Cheech
Since the creation of the EPL, United has faced WBA 12 times, with 10 wins and 2 draws.
11.03.2012 Manchester United 2-0 West Bromwich Albion
14.08.2011 West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Manchester United
01.01.2011 West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Manchester United
16.10.2010 Manchester United 2-2 West Bromwich Albion
27.01.2009 West Bromwich Albion 0-5 Manchester United
18.10.2008 Manchester United 4-0 West Bromwich Albion
18.03.2006 West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Manchester United
26.12.2005 Manchester United 3-0 West Bromwich Albion
07.05.2005 Manchester United 1-1 West Bromwich Albion
27.11.2004 West Bromwich Albion 0-3 Manchester United
11.01.2003 West Bromwich Albion 1-3 Manchester United
17.08.2002 Manchester United 1-0 West Bromwich Albion
Against WBA at home in the EPL we've won won 4 and drawn 2.
11.03.2012 Manchester United 2-0 West Bromwich Albion
16.10.2010 Manchester United 2-2 West Bromwich Albion
18.10.2008 Manchester United 4-0 West Bromwich Albion
26.12.2005 Manchester United 3-0 West Bromwich Albion
07.05.2005 Manchester United 1-1 West Bromwich Albion
17.08.2002 Manchester United 1-0 West Bromwich Albion
With 6 wins in 6 we're actually better playing WBA away.
11.03.2012 Manchester United 2-0 West Bromwich Albion
14.08.2011 West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Manchester United
01.01.2011 West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Manchester United
16.10.2010 Manchester United 2-2 West Bromwich Albion
27.01.2009 West Bromwich Albion 0-5 Manchester United
18.10.2008 Manchester United 4-0 West Bromwich Albion
18.03.2006 West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Manchester United
26.12.2005 Manchester United 3-0 West Bromwich Albion
07.05.2005 Manchester United 1-1 West Bromwich Albion
27.11.2004 West Bromwich Albion 0-3 Manchester United
11.01.2003 West Bromwich Albion 1-3 Manchester United
17.08.2002 Manchester United 1-0 West Bromwich Albion
Against WBA at home in the EPL we've won won 4 and drawn 2.
11.03.2012 Manchester United 2-0 West Bromwich Albion
16.10.2010 Manchester United 2-2 West Bromwich Albion
18.10.2008 Manchester United 4-0 West Bromwich Albion
26.12.2005 Manchester United 3-0 West Bromwich Albion
07.05.2005 Manchester United 1-1 West Bromwich Albion
17.08.2002 Manchester United 1-0 West Bromwich Albion
With 6 wins in 6 we're actually better playing WBA away.
Last game against WBA: United 2-0 WBA, 3/11/2012
Rooney 35'
Rooney 71' PEN
2nd to last WBA game: WBA 1-2 United, 8/14/2011
Rooney 13'
Long 37'
Reid OG 81'
Rooney 35'
Rooney 71' PEN
De Gea
Jones Evans Ferdinand Evra
Carrick Scholes
Young Rooney Welbeck
Hernandez
Jones Evans Ferdinand Evra
Carrick Scholes
Young Rooney Welbeck
Hernandez
2nd to last WBA game: WBA 1-2 United, 8/14/2011
Rooney 13'
Long 37'
Reid OG 81'
De Gea
Smalling Vidic Ferdinand Fabio
Cleverley Anderson
Nani Rooney Young
Welbeck
Smalling Vidic Ferdinand Fabio
Cleverley Anderson
Nani Rooney Young
Welbeck
GK: Lindegaard (rotation)
RB: Smalling
CB: Vidic (Rio should rest)
CB: Evans
LB: Evra
RM: Valencia (unless Young or Nani got well)
CB: Carrick
CM: Cleverley
LM: Buttner (Why not? Giggsy, or Kagawa if he is well, can come in for him on the hour mark)
CF: Welbeck (If he is well. We need to rest RVP for Tuesday's away game)
CF: Hernandez
RB: Smalling
CB: Vidic (Rio should rest)
CB: Evans
LB: Evra
RM: Valencia (unless Young or Nani got well)
CB: Carrick
CM: Cleverley
LM: Buttner (Why not? Giggsy, or Kagawa if he is well, can come in for him on the hour mark)
CF: Welbeck (If he is well. We need to rest RVP for Tuesday's away game)
CF: Hernandez
---------------De Gea--------------
Jones-----Vidic-------Evans------Evra
Valencia---Carrick---Cleverley---Welbeck
------------RVP------Hernandez---------
Possibly Rafael for Jones if he is fit as I am not sure how long he is suppose to be out for.
Jones-----Vidic-------Evans------Evra
Valencia---Carrick---Cleverley---Welbeck
------------RVP------Hernandez---------
Possibly Rafael for Jones if he is fit as I am not sure how long he is suppose to be out for.
------------------------de gea-------------------------
rafael or jones------vidic-----------evans-----------evra
valencia---------carrick--------cleverley--------welbeck or young
------------------hernandez------van persie-----------
rafael or jones------vidic-----------evans-----------evra
valencia---------carrick--------cleverley--------welbeck or young
------------------hernandez------van persie-----------
5-4, last minute winner after trailing or drawing for most of the match. The winner will be the first time we take the lead.
None of our matches are on TV over the holidays.
Not sure what team we'll put out given the injury problems. West Brom have looked less impressive recently and seemed to be lucky against QPR today, our firepower should see us through but I expect we'll need to score at least 2.
Not sure what team we'll put out given the injury problems. West Brom have looked less impressive recently and seemed to be lucky against QPR today, our firepower should see us through but I expect we'll need to score at least 2.
It's time we stop screwing around and start spotting our opponents two goals before we get on the scoresheet.