If Neymar keeps on developing as expected, Neymar-Messi-Sanchez could become the most legendary South American attacking trio of all time. I'm a tad bit excited now.
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If Neymar keeps on developing as expected, Neymar-Messi-Sanchez could become the most legendary South American attacking trio of all time. I'm a tad bit excited now.
Villa's replacement maybe?
Messi
Neymar---------Fabregas---------Sanchez
Iniesta-----------Xavi
Busquets
Pique-------Mascherano-------Puyol
Neymar---------Fabregas---------Sanchez
Iniesta-----------Xavi
Busquets
Pique-------Mascherano-------Puyol
Sanchez isn't that good.
That's definitely not going to happen, a bit suicidal even for Barcelona.
Pep played that formation pretty often last season. Even against elite teams:
Its important to see the personnel on the right and left though, Alexis works hard but Neymar isn't going to be very keen to track back and help that often, its a big risk.
They had Ronaldinho before. Its not like he helped the defense out. But Neymar is not too bad. He could turn out to be the person tracking back when he sees his team working so hard.
I know that people perceive him as a typical flair player who doesn't work hard but I'm sure he'll show enough respect for Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol etc. that he'll work as hard as everyone in that team. Puyol will sort him out if he doesn't but so far Neymar has shown nothing but huge respect for Barcelona and their players in every interview. I'm not concerned about his attitude. I can't see him acting the prima donna in that team. He's not an established star like Ibrahimovic but a kid. I'm more concerned about the transfer fee. He could be bought for € 60 million and still fail. 
Hope he doesn't become a Quaresma
SAF deemed him good enough to show serious interest in signing him last summer. We need to remember that when you sign for Barca, it doesn't matter how talented you are, you still have to fit in with thier style of play.
Which would surely take some getting used to for most players, irrespective of their talent.
I can't imagine Real will just watch him go to Barcelona. They'll try themselves, and they have as good a chance as Barca imo.
From some interviews of him he seems like he want to go to Barca, and if he makes a Sanchez then Madrid cannot do nothing expect watching him going to Barca.
If he will be a successful signing is a completely different matter. From what I have seen of him (Copa America and some other games of him, about 5 times), he looks talented but difficult to know if he can do it in the bug stage. But if he becomes as good as some are saying then him, Sanchez and Leo would really be one of the most devastating forces football has ever known.
Why couldnt we afford him?, We are meant to be the biggest club in the world or the most valuable or have the biggest income. Whatever it is we should be able to afford anyone.
Why exactly wont he be very keen to track back and help?. Did he tell you this himself?
Affording him means a lot more than paying the transfer fee. If we stumped up the transfer fee then we would essentially spend an entire summer transfer budget on one player. On top of that his wages are astronomical for someone of his age already and we would probably have to make him our second highest earner which could have serious repyrcussions in terms of a knock on effect on the rest of the squad.
Technically we can afford him but we are a financially well run club with a long term plan in order to keep ourselves in that position (in regards to how we manage our income to wages ratio, obviously not talking about the debt)
Unfortunately the guy would only go to what I like to call the "football manager" clubs such as Barca, Real, City and Chelsea. We wouldn't change our whole financially infrastructure for an unproven player regardless of the fact he is outrageously talented
I know that people perceive him as a typical flair player who doesn't work hard but I'm sure he'll show enough respect for Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol etc. that he'll work as hard as everyone in that team. Puyol will sort him out if he doesn't but so far Neymar has shown nothing but huge respect for Barcelona and their players in every interview. I'm not concerned about his attitude. I can't see him acting the prima donna in that team. He's not an established star like Ibrahimovic but a kid. I'm more concerned about the transfer fee. He could be bought for € 60 million and still fail.
No I was not thinking like that.
It was more to do with the point that both Neymar and Alexis will find it very hard to combat against the wingers or/and right and left defenders whenever needed to and they certainly would have even more of an attacking intent compared to Alves/Cuenca who were to give the side balance whenever Barcelona were at an advantage, its just common sense.And considering that counter attack is the only way against Barcelona and the wingbacks and wingers are a major part of that I just feel that formation with those particular players would be a lot more riskier.
Yeah he called me, we are mates.Seriously.
Ronaldinho was far lazier than Neymar is, yes, but he wasn't playing as the only left-sided player in the team so could be afforded less defensive responsibility. He had Van Bronckhorst backing him up and Eto'o repeatedly pulling out wide to cover for him.
Is he actually good enough to start for Barcelona? Would be a bit pointless to go there so young and be sat in the bench a lot of the time.
He is yet to be tested at that level, he is a good young player no doubt but there is a lot of Brazilian hype behind him because there is great eagerness from the Brazilian people to herald him as the next big thing.
Lets wait and watch I say.
Lets wait and watch I say.
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We'l never spend that much of our transfer budget on 1 player, let alone the ridiculous wages he'l want.
How much is "that much" anyway? Knowing Rosell Barca will get him for € 30 million with Neymar paying € 5 million of it from his own pocket and accepting a paycut on top of that. Heard it here first.
How much is "that much" anyway? Knowing Rosell Barca will get him for € 30 million with Neymar paying € 5 million of it from his own poket and accepting a paycut on top of that.
Will never happen. He's not your kid fabregas or a mascherano stuck at the Pool. You'l pay top dollar that Santos will surely demand. I'd expect something in the range of 45mil.
How much is "that much" anyway? Knowing Rosell Barca will get him for € 30 million with Neymar paying € 5 million of it from his own pocket and accepting a paycut on top of that. Heard it here first.
How many years left on his contract?
His contract at Santos is highly suspicious. He initially had a contract running until 2016. He "renewed" and his new contract runs until 2014 now. Around the same time of his "renewal" Florentino Perez got completely pissed publicly because Neymar wasn't joining Real Madrid and Neymar fired his agent who was constantly linking him to Madrid. Since then there hasn't been any further rumours about any other club being interested in him except Barcelona. I mean Chelsea splashed huge money on Oscar. And Hazard. Why not on Neymar? Not even a rumour? This seems like a done deal for a long long time now and I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if there is something going on with Rosell's Nike connections. Like Nike paying a certain ammount of his fee or whatever. It would make sense for Nike. Neymar is a Nike man. Rosell is a former Nike executive from Brazil. Real Madrid wear Adidas. Nike would have huge interest in Neymar joining Barcelona. You guys are joking about Kagawa selling shirts in Japan but imagine Neymar selling (Barcelona Nike) shirts in Brazil for a second. Rosell was also behind the Ronaldinho deal. I just don't see him splashing outrageous money on Neymar from his own (the club's) pocket.
I have to say I agree, if he were to go to any other club then they would be paying close to 50m I think but barca will probably get him for little more than 30m. Also it seems like the transfer was done ages ago and he just wants to stay for a season or two. Personally I think it'd be a mistake for him to wait until the world cup, and he should just leave next summer.
All i know is that when it happens, Barcelona truely will be unstoppable.
Messi and Neymar will be fecking delightful to watch, but painful to endure
Messi and Neymar will be fecking delightful to watch, but painful to endure
I'll give this to Rosell, whom I am not a fan of, he's a shrewd negotiator...He hasn't overpaid for anyone and has demonstrated success with each of his signings...Moreover, the club has been pretty consistent since Pep arrived to curb problematic agents or ship the players out...So, if Neymar is to come, it won't come for the figures we've heard tossed around quite generously and he'll have to limit his entourage to a tame agent
Whatever amount it'll ultimately be, because I agree that his arrival is inevitable, it'll be less than what was paid say for Kaka
...and I will go out on a limb to guess that the club would recoup far more than the eventual transfer fee from marketing aloneWhat kind of teammate and asset can he be for the squad, that remains the only real question, IMHO...Him & Leo seem to get on which is obviously a mandatory prerequisite
Depends on what you count as overpaying. Jury is still out on Sanchez in regards to that. He cost a pretty penny. Cost a similar amount as Cesc with the latter being quite the superior player.
Cesc was a 60M euro player that they got on the cheap.
I go by simple math...Sanchez & Cesc were pursued for far more than what Rosell ended up paying...Rosell has yet to overpay for anyone, he has gone below market value on everyone - which is remarkable, IMO
Sanchez wasn't pursued for far more. Don't remember any other club making a bid. It was just your typical chairman bullshit saying "He would cost at least X".
Where is there math involved? A made up number - 37m that was paid = X million cheaper that they got him for? Does that mean if someone buys Hulk for 40m he's getting him for 60m cheaper?
Sanchez' transfer fee is only half of the story anyway. City offered him twice as much as he earns at Barcelona now. He's at extremely low wages for a player of his standard. € 3 million a year if I'm not mistaken. Almost half as much as Andy Carroll is earning ...
You have people willing to take wage cuts for you and clubs willing to meet your price point as a result of the player set on joining you because you have a dream team right now. I wouldn't say the negotiator has a magic wand or anything. It's a consequence of your current team.
But seriously the best young talent joining the best team seems rather unfair. Let's hope Pete is right about Neymar.
But seriously the best young talent joining the best team seems rather unfair. Let's hope Pete is right about Neymar.
Not untrue. Players wanting to play alongside Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol etc. does help of course but that didn't prevent the previous president and his staff to splash ridiculous money on Ibrahimovic, Keirrison, Hleb, Chygrynskiy, Henrique and other dross.
Fss. We all know after Pete's judgement that Neymar will become the new Garrincha anyway.Pep played that formation pretty often last season. Even against elite teams:
...and it all worked out fine.
Oh, hang on.
It did. The system didn't fail. It wasn't perfect either yet because, well, it was a new system, but mainly poor finishing, individual errors and lack of urgency (complacency) cost Barcelona. Not the system. Those formation experiments from last season will come handy this season. Pep after his last game:
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