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Have a feeling he will stay a in Brazil this transfer window and maybe the next.
as fantastic a player as he is Neymar wouldn't be a great replacement for Villa
you can't underestimate Villa as a player who will guarantee you goals....I think he is under rated by a lot of people
its something Barcelona didnt get to a large degree with Ibra as despite being a fantastic player he lacks the killer instinct Villa has
Barcelona missed Villa last season - they'd be mad to get rid of a player who, like Messi, doesnt seem to let them down
If Barca were to sign him what an embarrassment of riches competing for those front spots
Messi, Neymar, Fabregas, Villa, Pedro, Sanchez, Cuenco, Iniesta, Pedro.......
you can't underestimate Villa as a player who will guarantee you goals....I think he is under rated by a lot of people
its something Barcelona didnt get to a large degree with Ibra as despite being a fantastic player he lacks the killer instinct Villa has
Barcelona missed Villa last season - they'd be mad to get rid of a player who, like Messi, doesnt seem to let them down
If Barca were to sign him what an embarrassment of riches competing for those front spots
Messi, Neymar, Fabregas, Villa, Pedro, Sanchez, Cuenco, Iniesta, Pedro.......
Villa is going nowhere. If someone will have to make room for Neymar it will be Afellay. But I also don't think Neymar will come this season anyway.
Can someone who plays mostly as a sub be replaced by neymar? I mean villa and neymar would both expect to play constantly if fit whereas affelay is a squad player at the moment
Neymar is only 20. Until he adapts to Europe, La Liga and the Barcelona system in particular he can be a squad player and get into the first team in 2 years time when Villa will slowly step down and become a squad player. If it was up to me I'd even put Neymar straight into Barca B in his first year.
I've seen Neymar play quite a bit (most of my last 30 posts are probably about him, far preceding the Olympics). I can confirm that Pete is talking absolute shite, as usual. Neymar is a scary talent. Nothing at all like Robinho as he'd lazily have you believe. Only similarities is that they're light and quick. Neymar is actually a lot quicker however, and has far, far more to his game.
He does love to scuff a lot of shots wide.
Ya, a whole one shot so far.
It's not a criticism but he did it a lot in the previous game too. His dribbling is brilliant though. It's very hard to stop him once he's in full flow.
The only person i've seen that can dribble past players with such pace/riding the challenges to the standard of Neymar in the world right now is Messi who is better at it. But watching Neymar in the Olympics and at Santos he's been lethal. I was skeptical at first but if he comes to Europe i think he will be one of the best in the world, especially if he goes to Barca. When he doesn't dive it is a joy to watch. But aswell as the Messi-esque runs, he has the tricks to use too, which gives his dribbling that extra flair and showmanship.
If we are not interested in Neymar then we must be mental
He hasn't even been productive so far today, been more wasteful than usual. But you can see his array of talent. Intelligence, vision, creativity, dribbling, pace, technical ability, and perhaps the one thing that seperates him from other players who aren't playing particularly well - his movement, which ensures he is pretty much always involved in the game and a threat.
He is some talent, but he won't be coming to United. BTW, he is certainly more similar to Messi than Ronaldo. Seen some comparing him to the latter but it's not accurate. He probably won't ever reach the levels of those two, but in terms of style, he's much closer to Messi.
He is some talent, but he won't be coming to United. BTW, he is certainly more similar to Messi than Ronaldo. Seen some comparing him to the latter but it's not accurate. He probably won't ever reach the levels of those two, but in terms of style, he's much closer to Messi.
United should spend some of that 80m on him
Have to say he's impressed me today. The potential is there for everyone to see.
As Nanderson said, I feel his movement is a great asset. He's always making himself available for a pass, and he always tries to make something happen.
Scarily direct in his dribbling, too.
As Nanderson said, I feel his movement is a great asset. He's always making himself available for a pass, and he always tries to make something happen.
Scarily direct in his dribbling, too.
How so? Neymar has more intelligence/vision/passing skill to his game than Ronaldo ever had but he's always looked far more like a young Ronaldo than a young Messi. If you take their dribbling as the biggest skill they possess between them, he's far more Ronaldo than Messi. He's a very different player to Ronaldo now but Ronaldo as as a kid, not for me.
I know it sounds simple, but the fact that he's right footed leaves me comparing him to a young Ronaldo far more than Messi.
Agreed that Ronaldo was somewhat similar in his dribbling ability when he was younger. But I think Neymar is more adept at getting on the ball and creating chances for others. He has very good vision and can pick a pass. I also think his dribbling is superior in tight spaces, like Messi. Neymar can dominate a game at the moment whether it be down the line or through the centre, even if he doesn't always do it. Ronaldo was more the type who threatened down the wings, using tricks and getting a cross in. Just my opinion, but I think he is, and will be, closer to Messi in terms of style of player.
He's not that similar to either, I'd compare him to Ronaldinho far quicker than either of them, except far less lazy, and doesn't look like a horse.
My tagline
Who did this? feckers
Who did this? feckers
what a missHorrendous miss.
(Great play from Rafael in build-up)
(Great play from Rafael in build-up)
If it weren't for some other player's miss a few days ago, it would be miss of the tournament. How did he manage that
He's rubbish...
I think the authority he's exerting at the Olympics and against other lesser teams is giving a somewhat distorted impression of him, personally. I don't think he'll ever be a playmaker like Ronaldinho, more a creative forward like Henry.
I've seen him more than at the Olympics you know
I know what you mean though, he doesn't have the creativity of Ronaldinho (who does?) but his dribbling, flair, close control and finishing remind me far more of him than of Ronaldo.How much is "that much" anyway? Knowing Rosell Barca will get him for € 30 million with Neymar paying € 5 million of it from his own pocket and accepting a paycut on top of that. Heard it here first.
They have to pay a Brazilian club. Its not going to be easy. Like SP said earlier, they don't need to sell players and their economy is booming, so a high price tag will be placed on Neymar by his club.
Well there is the option of playing Iniesta wide left like they did last season and Neymar could play behind Messi with Cesc and Xavi playing behind him.
Unlikely to happen when neymar plays on the left he majority of the time and iniesta is 10x better through the middle. Would be essentially playing two players out of position, but in each others positions.
I agree its a done deal. He's going to Barca. What am saying is that whenever the deal might have been done, its unlikely you'd have got him on the cheap. Santos have their best prospect in years, i'd be shocked if they let Neymar go for less than 40mil.
I'll give this to Rosell, whom I am not a fan of, he's a shrewd negotiator...He hasn't overpaid for anyone and has demonstrated success with each of his signings...Moreover, the club has been pretty consistent since Pep arrived to curb problematic agents or ship the players out...So, if Neymar is to come, it won't come for the figures we've heard tossed around quite generously and he'll have to limit his entourage to a tame agent
Whatever amount it'll ultimately be, because I agree that his arrival is inevitable, it'll be less than what was paid say for Kaka
What kind of teammate and asset can he be for the squad, that remains the only real question, IMHO...Him & Leo seem to get on which is obviously a mandatory prerequisite
Unless he pisses his talent away, at his age, even if you spend 40mil on him, it'd surely be recouped, no doubt about that. Rosell has done very good business so far but Fabregas being your kid and mascherano being stuck at Pool had a lot to do with the prices you got them for. Neymar's case is totally different. Brightest young talent in football atm at a Brazilian club. They wont settle for less than 40mil imo. Would be shocked if am wrong.
He was head and shoulders above everyone else against Belarus. Fantastic freekick, great assist for the third and full of exciting runs, dribbling and creativity. Has got the brain, pace and skill to cause any defence problems. He really has amazing potential and already the best young talent out there. Too bad we can't compete for these players nowadays.
Well, we could if Frogie hadn't run off with billions of pounds of the club's money!
*shakes fist at Frogie*
Don't forget Sanchez & Afellay
Watching other Brasilian players around Neymar and you can see they are in awe of him...He must impress even more on the training grounds...We'll see if that translates to the success he's been hyped for but he is special
I feel that Neymar is his own player, not like Ronaldinho.
I would describe him as a wing forward with a creative passing streak though not exactly like a play maker.
Its almost definite he will sign for Barcelona.
I would describe him as a wing forward with a creative passing streak though not exactly like a play maker.
Its almost definite he will sign for Barcelona.
Okay, you found one big game where they fecked up. They are all human after all. They played a new formation the whole year and incorporated new players into their system as well. I say it was impressive that they adjusted to the new system so quickly.
Persistent rumours have suggested that Neymar, currently starring at the Olympics, has already agreed to join Barcelona by next summer at the latest. However, Ribeiro predicted that the £60 million-rated player would not leave Santos before his contract ends in two years time.
"It is impossible for Neymar to leave Santos before 2014," Ribeiro told Catalan sports daily Mundo Deportivo. "When I sign a contract I fulfil it, and the player wants to do the same.
"I do not think of a player as a product, but as a human being. What Neymar generates for Santos over all the years he is here would more than compensate for him leaving for free. Neymar is happy here, and we will not give up persuading him to stay. Neymar will be in charge of his own future in 2014."
Neymar, 20, has been outstanding for Brazil at the Olympics, scoring twice and also providing a spectacular assist for Chelsea new boy Oscar in the 3-1 victory over Belarus as his side breezed through the group stages.
Ribeiro said these performances showed Neymar was already reaching the level of Barca's Lionel Messi and Real Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo.
"Neymar is a phenomenon and I am sure that this year, with his displays at the Olympic Games, he will take his place among the three best players in the world," he said. "We are not going to give him up."
Until recently, Brazilian players approaching this level were quick to move to Europe to increase their wages. However, this situation is changing quickly. According to one of the UK's leading football agents, support from sponsors and government bodies boosts Neymar's monthly wage packet to €1.5 million net, while a raft of endorsements push his earnings even higher.
Ribeiro told European clubs they needed to accept that Brazilian clubs could now afford to keep their stars at home.
"In Europe, they have to understand that there is another world on the other side of the Atlantic," he said. "Our economy is growing, which is not happening in Europe.
"For example, [Diego] Forlan has just moved to Brazil from Inter, and [Clarence] Seedorf from Milan. It is not like in the past. Today, we are leaders. Neymar earns now in Brazil the same as he would in Europe."
"It is impossible for Neymar to leave Santos before 2014," Ribeiro told Catalan sports daily Mundo Deportivo. "When I sign a contract I fulfil it, and the player wants to do the same.
"I do not think of a player as a product, but as a human being. What Neymar generates for Santos over all the years he is here would more than compensate for him leaving for free. Neymar is happy here, and we will not give up persuading him to stay. Neymar will be in charge of his own future in 2014."
Neymar, 20, has been outstanding for Brazil at the Olympics, scoring twice and also providing a spectacular assist for Chelsea new boy Oscar in the 3-1 victory over Belarus as his side breezed through the group stages.
Ribeiro said these performances showed Neymar was already reaching the level of Barca's Lionel Messi and Real Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo.
"Neymar is a phenomenon and I am sure that this year, with his displays at the Olympic Games, he will take his place among the three best players in the world," he said. "We are not going to give him up."
Until recently, Brazilian players approaching this level were quick to move to Europe to increase their wages. However, this situation is changing quickly. According to one of the UK's leading football agents, support from sponsors and government bodies boosts Neymar's monthly wage packet to €1.5 million net, while a raft of endorsements push his earnings even higher.
Ribeiro told European clubs they needed to accept that Brazilian clubs could now afford to keep their stars at home.
"In Europe, they have to understand that there is another world on the other side of the Atlantic," he said. "Our economy is growing, which is not happening in Europe.
"For example, [Diego] Forlan has just moved to Brazil from Inter, and [Clarence] Seedorf from Milan. It is not like in the past. Today, we are leaders. Neymar earns now in Brazil the same as he would in Europe."
Santos hoping to keep that transfer fee as high as possible
Did we sign him yet?
To be fair waiting til 2014 wont be the end of the world, he will still only be 22/23; and him playing regularly at this age is more important than having higher competition but being on the bench etc..
Unless he wants to come to us then sure he can join now.
Unless he wants to come to us then sure he can join now.
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