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I read on a journal today that 20 out of every 100 boys christened in Bolivia the past year have been given the name Neymar.

That's a bizarre statistic, must be crap to be Bolivian if a foreign player with a terrible haircut captures their imagination to that extent.
 
Why is everyone discussing the Ibrahimovic transfer and associating it with Barca's dominance?

I would have thought Pep leaving, Xavi aging and Messi finally being injured every now and then has helped others catch up, not whatever money was wasted on Zlatan.
 
But a semi-final isn't an indication of dominance, even if it's consistent when you do it 6 times in a row.


2 CL titles, 6 semis and more trophies in that span than any club team...in history

If that isn't dominance, what is?
 
It is semantics perhaps but that sort of consistency at the top is unprecedented for a reason
Didnt madrid win the European cup 5 times in a row and Liverpool dominated for a spell too?!
 
Didnt madrid win the European cup 5 times in a row and Liverpool dominated for a spell too?!


That was a completely different era though and the competition was very different back then. The European Cup was a lot easier to win because it was champions only who competed in it. You'd see a lot more sides retaining the CL title if it was under the old format.

Anyway, you couldn't really constitute what Barcelona have done as dominance as such but they've certainly been more consistent and featured in the latter stages than any major team in recent years and in the past 5 years, they've either won it or gotten beaten by the eventual winners. Not many sides have done that in this era.
 
That was a completely different era though and the competition was very different back then. The European Cup was a lot easier to win because it was champions only who competed in it. You'd see a lot more sides retaining the CL title if it was under the old format.
I'd say the European Cup was a lot easier to defend. Winning was just as difficult, imo, because it was way harder to qualify for it. For example, Chelsea and Bayern wouldn't have been in the competition the last 2 years.
 
I'd say the European Cup was a lot easier to defend. Winning was just as difficult, imo, because it was way harder to qualify for it. For example, Chelsea and Bayern wouldn't have been in the competition the last 2 years.


Qualifying for it was obviously a lot harder, but once a side got there it was undoubtedly much easier. The Real Madrid side that won 5 in a row are a perfect example. Even though they weren't winning La Liga year after year, they were still winning the European Cup because the competition was fairly limited. No matter how good that Real Madrid side were, they'd have struggled to have won the current format Champions League 5 times in a row.
 
That's why I said defending the title was easier than it is now. You were already qualified and there were few great teams in the competition.

Winning it was just as hard. You couldn't be as dominant for 6 years as Barca was in the recent past either, because the team wouldn't have taken part in the competition every time. Barca for example would never have won the treble to begin with - same as Bayern last season btw.
 
2 CL titles, 6 semis and more trophies in that span than any club team...in history

If that isn't dominance, what is?


But you were talking about 6 semi-finals, why did you just introduce the "more trophies blah blah blah" into it?? Semi finals are not a sign of dominance, is my point, and it's fairly irrefutable because you clearly didn't dominate whoever knocked you out of the semi's in all those years.
 
The Spanish press are all having fun with a story from Brasil today. Originally they were reporting it as an unattributed comment on a Brasilian radio station, but it's now been linked to a santos director.

Apparently Guardiola, as Bayern Munich's incoming manager, did try and sign Neymar. In the course of it, he allegedly told Neymar's dad that Tito won't know how to play Messi and Neymar in the same team, so he should be looking at options, away from Barca..

Of course he's now publicly said that he think Messi and Neymar will be great together.

But all's fair in transfer hunting and, of course, in hearsay reports on foreign radio stations.
http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130710/fc-barcelona/guardiola-neymar-messi-juntos_54377394997.html
 
It was reported in the German press today that Guardiola had a meeting with Bayern's CEO, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, to try and convince him to sign Neymar. Rummenigge listened to Guardiola and then asked him to look out of the window - it was raining. ''Can you imagine someone coming from sunny Brazil, a young lad, and arrive here to see this? He'll have problems to adapt for sure.'' Pep wasn't too disappointed though as Mario Götze was signed instead.
 
I also heard the story before that Pep wanted him but Bayern was reluctant to spend so much money on a young Brazilian player who has no experience in Europe so far. Another thing is that Sammer prefers young German players as transfer targets, which is understandable considering that he was in charge of the coordination of the German youth development for quite some time.
 
If he really makes more than Messi it's beyond absolute stupidity. A massive excuse for players to demand pay rises as well. I doubt it's true though and how would anyone know?
 
Isn't Messi one of the highest paid players? It'd be crazy to have Neymar on wages that high..
 
Isn't Messi one of the highest paid players? It'd be crazy to have Neymar on wages that high..


Messi reportedly earns around £180k a week. Less than the likes of Eto'o, Ibrahimovic, Rooney, Toure, Aguero.
 
Messi reportedly earns around £180k a week. Less than the likes of Eto'o, Ibrahimovic, Rooney, Toure, Aguero.

From what I read he still is the best paid player due to several bonuses he receives from Barca related to his and club's performance.
 
You'd think that but you'd be wrong. They simply extended the deal, at the same terms

He was already on massive money though, a while back the gave him a new deal that was more than what Ronaldo was on at Real, didn't they?
 
He was already on massive money though, a while back the gave him a new deal that was more than what Ronaldo was on at Real, didn't they?

I remember reading that too. Maybe he has a percentage of his image rights, or it took personal sponsorship into account? But I doubt it.
 
He was quoted as on 10.5m Euro's per annum around 18 months ago:

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so basically, remove the sugar daddy outliers and it is:

Rooney, 13.8m
Messi, 10.5m
Ronaldo, 10m.

edit: who the feck is conca?
 
Yes, google told me as much. But has anyone actually seen him play? How can a player I only just heard of be the 8th best paid player in the world? What's he like? Why him?

Argentinian. Very good player... did well in Chile before moving to Brazil where he also did pretty good, being chosen the best player of the brasileirao on 2010. Shine at continental level as well.

He is a "classic 10" type of player. Some similarities with Kagawa maybe.

Why they paid him so much? i guess because he is young and was willing to play in China, despite having enough talent to have a decent run in europe.

He is 29 now... and out of contract.

Worth a bid?? :lol:
 
Barcelona want Neymar to bulk up. With a view to helping that, they diagnosed chronic tonsillitis and he had his tonsils removed during the summer.

They've now discovered that he's anemic and are putting him on a special diet with extra supplements - but I won't be the one who makes jokes about his blood passport.

Meanwhile Messi's dad/agent has reportedly started wondering out loud about Neymar's salary. They've denied that they're trying to negotiate a new contract, but as they've always said in the past that Barca simply offer Messi the money he deserves, maybe negotiating isn't required. Though Messi is going to need some extra cash to pay his tax bill/fine.
 
Barcelona want Neymar to bulk up. With a view to helping that, they diagnosed chronic tonsillitis and he had his tonsils removed during the summer.

They've now discovered that he's anemic and are putting him on a special diet with extra supplements - but I won't be the one who makes jokes who makes jokes about his blood passport.

Meanwhile Messi's dad/agent has reportedly started wondering out loud about Neymar's salary. They've denied that they're trying to negotiate a new contract, but as they've always said in the past that Barca simply offer Messi the money he deserves, maybe negotiating isn't required. Though Messi is going to need some extra cash to pay his tax bill/fine.


Very interesting. This Neymar-Messi combo has the potential to be one of the best in the world and at the same time cause a lot of problems for the club.

Sad to know about his health issues though, hopefully it isnt something that can hold him back.
 
Neymar's dad says Neymar has lost 7kg this summer and as he was already identified as being in need of fattening up that's a bit shocking.

I've seen some pictures of him looking very gaunt but I assumed that was just to illustrate particular stories. However if his dad's right (and I don't see why he'd lie) it could be a few months before he's physically back to his best.
 
So how sick is he exactly? I heard he was anemic (sic) but I haven't researched his condition or his past, etc. Is this a prolonged problem or will it pass?
 
So how sick is he exactly? I heard he was anemic (sic) but I haven't researched his condition or his past, etc. Is this a prolonged problem or will it pass?

If the problem was left it could have been seriously damaging to his career. Now they have caught it though and its being controlled by medication it should not be a issue. It will take a few months to build back up the muscle that he has lost, but if anything he will be better than he was before - scary.
 
If the problem was left it could have been seriously damaging to his career. Now they have caught it though and its being controlled by medication it should not be a issue. It will take a few months to build back up the muscle that he has lost, but if anything he will be better than he was before - scary.

Ah, okay. Thanks. Luckily it isn't too bad.
 
Good luck to him, one way or another this Messi + Neymar combination is going to be explosive.
 


Surprised no one's been talking about his goal v Portugal, top class.

 
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