Ah, I remember Fernandinho being lucky to escape red now you mention it actually. Although that seems to apply to every game he plays these days
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Ah, I remember Fernandinho being lucky to escape red now you mention it actually. Although that seems to apply to every game he plays these days
That's pretty much what we were doing. The team was definitely playing much deeper than we did in the same game last season until one moment of brilliance from Hazard changed the whole game. How are you supposed to account for that as a manager? The bottler tag is just a lazy stereotype. Arsenal's massive injury list and poor squad has more of an impact on results in February-March than any lack of winning mentality.
And you didn't stifle all of our attacks. When Sanchez injured Courtois if he had controlled the ball better he might have been in to score. If Wilshere had controlled the ball better he could have had a chance to score. If Atkinson had given us a penalty for the Fabregas handball then the result might have been different. In my opinion Wenger set up the team quite well yesterday and if little things had gone our way we might have come away with a positive result. This isn't aimed at you but some people just see the result and assume that the it was a typical Mourinho team bulldozing their way over fragile Arsenal but even though we lost I thought there were positives to take from the game.
I think our definitions of sitting back and soaking up pressure may differ slightly.
How many shots on goal did you have again?
You were better than you've been in some previous matches between us, but ask yourself why so often it comes down to 'if the ref had been less unfair' or 'if x had just been slightly different'. Are Arsenal just unlucky every time, or do you not think that there's real issues there that need to be resolved? Wilshere was awful, Ozil was nearly invisible, how much of that is tactical and how much is just them having an off day? Because the same results keep repeating themselves and surely at some point you have to start seriously asking why.
Wenger needs to do something different tactically if he is to win the league again. 9 points behind Chelsea already!
Arsenal should be alright to mount a decent title challenge but they must step it up, the last thing they want is to get dragged into the race for the top four.
Arsenal should be alright to mount a decent title challenge but they must step it up, the last thing they want is to get dragged into the race for the top four.
Think we have just as good a chance really. I expected a-lot more from them this season, but they didn't address key areas once again. Despite the furore on here, Wenger should have bought a better forward than Welbeck and also invested better at the back.
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You're a good poster, you're capable of debating without resorting to lazy sayings.
All those questions are great. There are a bunch of reasons that could apply.
Because firstly, you have a better team than us and pretty much have for the last 6-7 years. There are some pretty glaring deficiencies in our squad and starting XI. Then there's also the fact that there's something really wrong with injuries at the club. I can't remember the last time Arsenal played a big game with a fully fit first XI. And obviously it doesn't help that Wenger is stubborn and wants to win in a certain way.
I don't think we're unlucky or that there's some conspiracy but honestly I can't remember getting a big decision in our favour in a big game. Although I'm sure someone will prove me wrong.
I actually have a soft spot for Arsenal. I don't want them to become title winning obviously but they play some lovely football and they've achieved some amazing things in the past. I just find it really frustrating to see the same mistakes being made over and over.
The injury thing is fair enough, although you have to wonder why so many injuries keep happening. Surely it's reaching the point where it has to be something to do with training or player conditioning. As for the squad strengths, I don't think we have been better than you for that long. Until this year basically we also had some glaring deficiencies in our squad, we havent had a decent striker for years and until we got Matic back we didn't have a CM who could hold the midfield together. The point is though that we fixed our deficiencies because it was obvious what needed to be done in most cases. Similarly it doesn't take a genius to see what needs fixed in the Arsenal squad, yet this season again those holes remain. Did anyone genuinely think Wenger was going to go into this season without a new DM or holding CM, really?
Nope. We were so optimistic for the coming season at the beginning of the summer after seeing the club signing Debuchy, Sanchez, and Chambers so soon after each other.
Now it's another year of aiming for 4th.
I enjoyed Wilshere calling Terry a 'pussy'.
Not signing a DM was going to come back to bite us on the arse sooner or later. I think that is the reason for this new system which simply has made us worse.
I didn't get to see the match against Chelsea but heard defensively on the whole we were quite solid but horribly lacking in attack. Finding that balance has been difficult for us so far but I still can't get my head around why he doesn't go back to last seasons set up with Ramsey playing deeper. Possibly as our DM options are poor and it might leave us exposed but it can't be worse than this!
'Fackin' prick. FACKIN' PRICK. PUSSY.'
Ozil out for 12 weeks.
Nah....
They do rack up a huge amount of injuries every season. This can't be a coincidence, they need to get it fixed.
Think he would prefer being out to being shunted out to the right flank..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29557116
Unbelievable really. He's apparently had this issue since the World Cup but Wenger still decided that there'd be no problem with going into the season with 2 CBs. Genius management.
Unbelievable really. He's apparently had this issue since the World Cup but Wenger still decided that there'd be no problem with going into the season with 2 CBs. Genius management.
Interesting period coming up. All winnable games pretty much but at this rate we'll be fielding our youth squad in November.
So how would our injury ravaged squad line up next weekend? I think Chambers is suspended for five yellows, so Bellerin will make his first start.
Chesney
Bellerin Per Kos Gibbs
Arteta Wishere
Ox Santi Sanchez
Welbeck
Bellerin Per Kos Gibbs
Arteta Wishere
Ox Santi Sanchez
Welbeck
Arteta's back, from what I read?
He started against Dortmund.
Not a bad XI, Arteta aside and he'd be playing anyway. Chamberlain has deserved a start for a while.
No point in buying another Cygan or Squillaci.
Should've put the foot down and got Manolas. We could've double Roma's wages.
(H) Palace 2-1
(A) Everton 2-2
(A) Leicester 1-1
(H) City 2-2
(A) Villa 3-0
(H) Spurs 1-1
(H) Chelsea 0-2
(H) Hull 2-2
8 played, 2 win, 5 draws, 1 loss.
Apart from todays game are they really aren't in as bad a situation as people make them out to be, they've played Chelsea, City, Everton and Spurs so all that's left is Liverpool and United until xmas. They're usually good at beating shite teams so should cover good ground from now til then. Having said that though I cannot see us losing to them any time soon.
(A) Everton 2-2
(A) Leicester 1-1
(H) City 2-2
(A) Villa 3-0
(H) Spurs 1-1
(H) Chelsea 0-2
(H) Hull 2-2
8 played, 2 win, 5 draws, 1 loss.
Apart from todays game are they really aren't in as bad a situation as people make them out to be, they've played Chelsea, City, Everton and Spurs so all that's left is Liverpool and United until xmas. They're usually good at beating shite teams so should cover good ground from now til then. Having said that though I cannot see us losing to them any time soon.
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That's 2 wins, 5 draws, 1 loss.
They needed a last gasp Ramsey sitter to rescue them against Palace and Everton totally collapsed after destroying them in that game.
In truth, they're very fortunate to even have as many points as they do have. Absolutely hilarious to watch.
What's going on with Joel Campbell, does Wenger not rate him? I thought he had a really good cameo today.
Been moaning about it for weeks, this new system is a complete and utter fecking mess. I can't get my head around it and it looks like the players can't either.
Saying that the first goal was a disgrace, such a blatant foul. Ref mistakes becoming a regular occurrence in our games
The same could be said for your team as well and you've had a very straight forward fixture list so far.
Saying that the first goal was a disgrace, such a blatant foul. Ref mistakes becoming a regular occurrence in our games
In truth, they're very fortunate to even have as many points as they do have. Absolutely hilarious to watch.
The same could be said for your team as well and you've had a very straight forward fixture list so far.
Everton and Hull were lucky to get the point they got due to ref mistakes. Still not as hilarious as losing 5-3 to a newly promoted team mind you.
I think the difference is that a lot of Arsenal fans look at our results this season and think we've had an absolutely terrible start whereas United fans look at theirs and think they've been brilliant.
Thing is, this was supposed to be the year your lot would be legitimate title contenders. We knew this season would have its ups and downs for us and that we won't be back on top straight away.
Arsenal's title challenge is over before Halloween.
Well, that is quite clearly bullshit.
That's because we've been playing shit football for nearly 3 years with mediocre players, you'll have to excuse us for being excited by the attractive football we're playing especially after the season we've just been through.
I know opposing fans don't care for excuses and rightly so but i'll tryanyway..
1. 6 new players, all to be first XI players so need time to gel
2. New formation testing which ended terribly
3. 6 different center backs and using wingers as full backs due to all sorts of unlucky shit
I'd love to replay the games we were wank defensively with a solid back four.
Anyway back to Arsenal.
Supposed to be our year? That sounds like some shit the scousers would say. After seeing the business Chelsea & City did personally think we would have had to double our spend to make us contenders. But I will say that we fell short in the summer window on two key positions and that has partially come back to bite us, as has our usual yearly injury problems.
When we get all our players back we'll be a hell of a lot stronger but with our injury problems you never know if you'll see that day.....
Much more of a challenge than Man Utd though.
v Swansea
a Sunderland
a Burnley
v QPR
a Leicester
v West Ham
v Everton
v Crystal Palace
a Everton
a Leicester
v Man City
a Aston Villa
v Spurs
a Chelsea
v Hall
And yet you come out only 1 point ahead. The hilarious thing is Man Utd fans crowing about Arsenal when they've pissed away an incredibly easy start.
Fixed, my bad. Should've waited until I finished my coffee before writing it
..wild saturday night!A referee mistake heavily influenced our 5-3 loss against Leicester, so you can't use one for one and not the other. That being said, our defending following that error was horrendous and inexcusable. I suppose a lot of Arsenal would point to their own sides ineptitude at times during both Everton and Hull though also.