Politics at Westminster | BREAKING: UKIP

"I've just given you a red-hot tip!"
 
He's a fairly pathetic figure now that his mentor's out in the cold, heart's not even in the bullshitting anymore.

Yes it's nice to see he just about managed to wrench his head out of George Osborne's arse before it hit the back benches.
 
He's a fairly pathetic figure now that his mentor's out in the cold, heart's not even in the bullshitting anymore.
It's pretty bad when he can't even spin some bullshit about a new economic model. Without knowing the intricacies of Theresa May's plan, I reckon even I could have spun a load of shit about business and workers and had it sound somewhat more credible than that train wreck of a reply.
 
Labour holds Stoke Central by 2,620 votes.

Snell (Labour) - 7,853
Nuttall (UKIP) - 5,233
Brereton (Con) - 5,154
Ali (Lib Dem) - 2,083
Colclough (Green) - 294
 
2k margin.

Closer to 2500 actually, good hold considering UKIP's insurgence.
 
Oooh I was going for 3k, close.
 
Still desperate times when there's a shadow of a doubt about such a strong Labour seat. It could easily go at the next election going by this trend.
 
Nuttall & his alter-egos voted 5233 times.
 
"I've just given you a red-hot tip!"

All he had to say was that we might take some lessons from other EU members or past UK governments, neither of which involve becoming a tax haven with a bonfire of basic workers' rights.
 
Paul Nuttalls has now lost 5 by-elections, fast closing on Farage's magnificent 7.

EDIT - that should read all elections for Westminster, not just by-elections.
 
Paul Nuttalls has now lost 5 by-elections, fast closing on Farage's magnificent 7.
I think Brexit could be the death of UKIP. What do they actually offer aside from European skepticism? Nothing you can't get with the Tories. They might have made gains with the raw vote, but I'm not sure they'll ever win a by-election and I don't think Brexit will be very topical in 2020.
 
I think Brexit could be the death of UKIP. What do they actually offer aside from European skepticism? Nothing you can't get with the Tories. They might have made gains with the raw vote, but I'm not sure they'll ever win a by-election and I don't think Brexit will be very topical in 2020.

Aye, quite a few of their activists have rejoined the Tories and their only MP looks as if he's physically aching to do so.
 
I think Brexit could be the death of UKIP. What do they actually offer aside from European skepticism? Nothing you can't get with the Tories. They might have made gains with the raw vote, but I'm not sure they'll ever win a by-election and I don't think Brexit will be very topical in 2020.

Prior to the 2015 GE, when we all find ourselves doing those 'who should i vote for' quizzes, i remember that a fair few of us on here got UKIP for education. More importantly, there are also constituencies (rural and coastal) where UKIP is the most likely protest/alternative voting choice. They need to bin Nuttall to remain competitive though, that's for damn sure.

Much will also depend on who guides government economic policy: Hammond, who is closer to the Osborne model; or Theresa May, who has more of an interventionist slant. The latter should have broader appeal.
 
Aye, quite a few of their activists have rejoined the Tories and their only MP looks as if he's physically aching to do so.
The party looks a shambles from the top down.
Prior to the 2015 GE, when we all find ourselves doing those 'who should i vote for' quizzes, i remember that a fair few of us on here got UKIP for education. More importantly, there are also constituencies (rural and coastal) where UKIP is the most likely protest/alternative voting choice. They need to bin Nuttall to remain competitive though, that's for damn sure.
I think they've lost all semblance of credibility. Even Farage is a joke in the current political climate. Not sure who could lead them forward.
 
Tories did much better there than I was expecting.
 
Tories did much better there than I was expecting.

A combination of May's stance on Brexit and the Tories being seen as a professional outfit if you will. Nuttall's few policy positions notwithstanding, he didn't come across like an MP that you could have any confidence in whatsoever (which then spreads to the party's image as a whole). I'd be very surprised if there isn't an attempt to remove him before the spring conference.
 
The festering vestige of UKIP detracting from a comfortable Tory win in Stoke.

Not even close in Copeland. Shocking for Labour.
 
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Conservatives take Copeland by 2,147 votes.

Harrison (Conservative) - 13,748
Troughton (Labour) - 11,601
Hanson (Lib Dem) - 2,252
Mills (UKIP) - 2,025
 
I was expecting a few hundred votes either way, that's scandalous.
 
A 5,000 vote swing to the Tories, is that right? Larger than i expected.

The Government will probably need to divert some health funding to keep it in 2020 IMO.
 
I think Corbyn should go. Give the leadership to someone closer to the centre, and do it amicably. But this can't go on.