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Really? Inflation under control? But the right was united on QE leading to inevitable inflation not so long ago...

We could do with inflation a fair bit higher right now.

The fall in inflation was predicted by the BoE going back years IIRC. Although this respite can only be temporary, after all the fundamentals have not altered for utilities and food in the longer trrm.

Who needs it higher?
 
I've never cringed so much, it felt like something off The Thick Of It.

"Is this some sort of joke?" :lol:
 
I only listened to the first 20 seconds. It isn't the first and certainly wont' be the last time we hear a politician trying to avoid answering a question like that. Said MP is left sounding totally silly though, whether they are dropped init by a superior or the reason lies with them.

Ed Miliband, Ed Balls, David Cameron, George Osborne, they are but passengers to events it seems. Once in a while they'll be a scatter-gun approach taken to policies and criticism thereof. But look up, we're likely heading for coalition government again in 2014/15. :(
 
The fall in inflation was predicted by the BoE going back years IIRC. Although this respite can only be temporary, after all the fundamentals have not altered for utilities and food in the longer trrm.

Supply-siders said flooding the markets with new money would inevitably lead to inflation. Keynesians said no, we're in a liquidity trap, it won't.

No inflation transpired. A few admitted they'd been wrong, most have just pretended reality doesn't exist.

Who needs it higher?

Everyone except savers - including the economy at large. Unfortunately savers have the political power.
 
Everyone except savers - including the economy at large. Unfortunately savers have the political power.

It's those on a fixed income who are scared of inflation. Savers don't care so long as interest rates are nicely positive to inflation, which they haven't been in recent years of course.
If ever there was a time to say savers don't have political power then this is it.
 
I think Gideon's political capital is spent; that budget is still blowing up in his and Cameron's face.

Even something as publicly popular as freezing fuel at a time like this still made him look weak and incompetent to the public.

Labour done well to make it appear like their work that forced the petrol u-turn today.

Elsewhere, Cameron looked hopeless - again - at PMQs today.
 
Why not just tell him when she was informed about the decision?

A. It's not a state secret.


B. Logic dictates that there has to be a time when she was told, so it's not going to make her look bad.


C. It throws him off the attack and uses his time if you answer but take your time about it.

She was always going to have a hard time explaining away the quote and given that nothing has really changed since last month, when they said they were not going to freeze it, it was a bowler’s pitch. Never the less she couldn't have been made to look any more stupid than she made herself look in that interview.

Whatever she is earning, half it and please don't let her near anything important.

...And all that was left the vultures cleaned to the bone.
 
David Cameron has opened the door to a historic referendum on Britain's relationship with the European Union - declaring that voters need a "real choice".

According to tge article Liam Fox is to make his presence felt for the first time since his resignation last year.

A quick skim of that is that Cameron's referendum would be for future changes down the line, whatever that means, and meanwhile he rules out an 'in or out' referendum. So it's a non-story if ever I saw one.

Pity mind, a referendum would split the tories right down the middle, but even Cameron ain't stupid enough to go there.
 
Well yes of course, Cameron wants to stay as far away as possible from any sort of referendum.

I've heardd it said though that the 2010 batch of MP's increaed the size of the Eurosceptic wing of the party. The immediate story here is the likelihood of in-fighting in the coming months.

One of these days we are going to have to engage in a serious examination of where we see ourselves in European affairs, the moves toward a further centralusing of powers will force us into it eventually. Either join them or renegotiate in a pretty serious fashion, as the status quo will fail to serve the nees of both pro and anti soober or later.
 
I think things are changing in Europe but it's not gone far enough to be apparent yet. Look at recent events with Germany, where up to now Germany has said 'we've got all the money, so all the other countries are going to have to do as we say if they want to stay in Europe'. I believe that will change and the voters of other countries will start to say 'we've got the votes, and don't forget you got the money from us in the first place, so how about you do what we say if you want to stay in Europe'. I know that's ludicrously simplistic, but I do think things will move in that direction.

As for debate in the UK, we have it now, just some people won't admit they're in a minority. A referendum would be useful in shutting them up for a bit, but they'd soon start over again.
 
Well yes of course, Cameron wants to stay as far away as possible from any sort of referendum.

I've heardd it said though that the 2010 batch of MP's increaed the size of the Eurosceptic wing of the party. The immediate story here is the likelihood of in-fighting in the coming months.

One of these days we are going to have to engage in a serious examination of where we see ourselves in European affairs, the moves toward a further centralusing of powers will force us into it eventually. Either join them or renegotiate in a pretty serious fashion, as the status quo will fail to serve the nees of both pro and anti soober or later.


I don't think we see ourselves in the EU if it goes in the direction it seems to be going. I just don't see tax policy, financial transaction tax, deficit reduction oversight and all the other EU demands being acceptable to the majority of British people. If Scotland votes for independence then I wouldn't think the referendum would be winnable ever. I noted Paddy Ashdown's view that he doesn't think it is winnable right now or in the immediate future.
 
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I'm interested in who you think is in the minority and why?

I think people who want to leave the EU are in the minority. Yes, people moan about it and newspapers go on about it, but that's a different thing from a majority of people voting to leave it.

All three major parties want to stay in, and although we've only had one referendum the result was a large majority to stay in. Next time I would expect a larger one.
 
I have got to admit that I can't make my mind up one way or the other which is very frustrating.

We have had decades of counter EU coverage and honestly if the UK had known what we were getting into when we voted for the common market, we wouldn't have voted yes. I think if asked right now to agree to all the changes being introduced on the back of the Euro crisis there is no way we opt in.

There won't be a fair debate either. The newspapers will attack the pro Euro side endlessly.
 
I have got to admit that I can't make my mind up one way or the other which is very frustrating.

We have had decades of counter EU coverage and honestly if the UK had known what we were getting into when we voted for the common market, we wouldn't have voted yes. I think if asked right now to agree to all the changes being introduced on the back of the Euro crisis there is no way we opt in.

There won't be a fair debate either. The newspapers will attack the pro Euro side endlessly.

It might help if we wait and see what the changes will actually be, and particularly how they will affect non-Euro countries. We might even like them.

Politicians never get credit for anything of course, but I note that both major parties were against joining the Euro, at least until the time became right, and as it turns out rightly so.
 
Another good day in the office for Ed Milliband at PMQ.Cameron seemed tired and feeling the pressure.
 
Oh do take the blinkers off Drifter, next you'll be saying Labour's credibility has sufficiently rehabilitated to be leading the country again.
 
Really? Inflation under control? But the right was united on QE leading to inevitable inflation not so long ago...

We could do with inflation a fair bit higher right now.

QE will eventually lead to higher inflation but calculating the correct money supply is an incredibly complicated business and it seems we have more leeway to try another round if we need to. It's a good option to have. Why do you think we could do with inflation being higher? It's the first time I've heard anyone express that wish.
 
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This proposed Lords Reform is all self-serving and unnecessary politicking at a time when government should be focusing on other things.

The weak links of our democracy lie more in the Commons and neither boundary changes or AV are what is called for. Speaking of which, if we got a referendum on the voting reform there should be one here too IMO.

Elected crime commissioners, an elected second chamber, isn't there enough apathy already?
 
Gideon tonight looking very foolish after overplaying his hand on Labour and Libor.

He's becoming a huge liability for Cameron in that dual-role.
 

Well yes and no.

A third of the electorate failed to vote at the last general election and it is tbe norm of anywhere between half and two-thirds to walk on by come the locals.

And then there are those who either lazily or religiously vote for one political party time after time despite said party having betrayed their trust in a sufficient number of ways or been shown to be unworthy of office.

And the same could be said for other industries or causes depending on one's PoV.
 
Cameron had shouting match with own MP, Jesse Norman tonight after Lords vote. Norman was one of 91 Tory rebels in vote and was told to leave Parliament.

Silly politics, childish even, but our PM isn't very prime ministerial...
 
Did it look genuine or a show for the benefit of coalition and public consumption? Overemphasising his annoyance and such like.

Good to see the backbenchers bearing their teeth IMO. Well, at least when it suits one's viewpoint anyway. ;)
 
This proposed Lords Reform is all self-serving and unnecessary politicking at a time when government should be focusing on other things.
Bollocks, it's never to soon to extend democracy. And the new chamber might just help to sort out some of those 'other things' that the coalition has signally failed to sort out.
 
Bollocks, it's never to soon to extend democracy. And the new chamber might just help to sort out some of those 'other things' that the coalition has signally failed to sort out.

Oh do explain how these proposals would achieve that?

If they wish to perform their democratic duty as elected officials they should be focusing on improvements to turnout at the present range of polls for which the public are called to participate, and perhaps look into a cheaper and efficient means of staging referenda.

So we can extend a weak and flawed democracy into the Lords or modify to some degree what exists alreeady, i **** the latterwould be best as thing are.


A right circus it sounded like at PMQs today. As is often the case the better of the questions were put by backbenchers and not Ed.
 
No wonder she did damage to her arm.Not the best PMQs but once again Milliband came out on top.
 
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Thus far all of the any changes in the cabinet have resulted from scandal [at the senior level at least], however if there is a an actual reshuffle prior to the next election i think Theresa May would be a contender to...expand her knowledge of government.

There are other obvious places to look too of course.


So on a sideway move or worse i've got:

Theresa May
Caroline Spellman
Jeremy Hunt
George Osborne (Unlikely perhaps)



Candidates for promotion:

Michael Gove
Lynne Featherstone
Andrew Mitchell
Justine Greening
Richard Benyom
Ed Davey
 
I'd be shocked if Osborne went anywhere.

I've also got a bit of a worry that Chris Grayling might get promoted. Justine Greening I think is a good shout if May moves. They'll probably want to get another woman in to one of the senior posts if she goes.
 
Just as long as Louise Mensch isn't promoted...