Okay, up for a half-decade one as well.
A 50s one might be better with eight teams.
A 50s one might be better with eight teams.
Retro Football Fantasy Championship
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I'm in
DanNistelrooy PMed me to count him in for the next Fantasy
List so far
Crustanoid
Cal?
Nani Nana
Polaroid
Team Brian
Gio
Brwned
Snow
KM
DanNistelrooy
Managerial applicants are welcome to come in solo or as a joint managerial team. Only requirement is commitment and co-operation.
List so far
Crustanoid
Cal?
Nani Nana
Polaroid
Team Brian
Gio
Brwned
Snow
KM
DanNistelrooy
Managerial applicants are welcome to come in solo or as a joint managerial team. Only requirement is commitment and co-operation.
Can't decide who to pick. Thinking of Choosing Dunga from one team and Francescoli from another.
Which one of Redondo, Moller & Boban do you think are not "proper midfielders"?
Anyway, here's the updated formation:
The complete lack of width in Brwned's side makes me really tempted to put Littbarski back in...
Moller and Boban are attacking midfielders as you well know, having seen them play in behind the strikers and in attacking wide positions more than a few times. They're not "proper midfielders" in the same way that I'd say Savicevic and Stojkovic aren't "proper midfielders". I don't think they're suited to playing in an orthodox, organised midfield three like in a 433 and certainly not in a two man midfield. The setup you've got now is a different story though, I was considering going for the Stojkovic-Rijkaard-Savicevic axis in a 532 myself and I think it's very doable, just didn't realise you were going for 3 centre backs! Shame about taking out Littbarski though, I think he's a good pick and was going for him ahead of Basler myself.
I'd love to do a few caf polls to get some dream teams together for the half decades.
You could do polls for each position and come up with four teams:
Team A: Born 56-60
Team B: Born 61-65
Team C: Born 66-70
Team D: Born 71-75
Then a round robin of matches between the teams, voted by caf members to see which was the strongest period
You could do polls for each position and come up with four teams:
Team A: Born 56-60
Team B: Born 61-65
Team C: Born 66-70
Team D: Born 71-75
Then a round robin of matches between the teams, voted by caf members to see which was the strongest period
I'm in.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong but I'd consider Boban well capable of playing in an orthodox, fairly deep midfield role, certainly as part of a three man midfield.
Yeah I'd say it's a mixture of overall quailty and balance not only in terms of players who complement one another but also those who have played well together in the past.
i'll take part in the next one if it's in at least 3 weeks time
and i'd also like the newbies being allowed to vote next time round, ok there might be one or two incompetent ones but the same could be said of the mains forum
we could also count a vote in the mains twice and one in the newbies only once
and i'd also like the newbies being allowed to vote next time round, ok there might be one or two incompetent ones but the same could be said of the mains forum
we could also count a vote in the mains twice and one in the newbies only once
it would be great to get the picking process done a lot faster next time too
and perhaps add something along the lines of, once the picking process done, you are allowed to exchange one single player with another poster, provided he is in agreement with it
and perhaps add something along the lines of, once the picking process done, you are allowed to exchange one single player with another poster, provided he is in agreement with it
I'd like to be part of a 70ies one as well.
One more thing, in order to have balanced draws next time it would be nice to have a seeding system whereby the top performers of the 60s edition would not be drawn in the same group in the 70s edition
This is all the more operable that they all seem intent on taking part in the next one
This is all the more operable that they all seem intent on taking part in the next one
I would play a 70s game
Can anybody give me some suggestions?
I'd do the same. With Amoros good enough going forward to provide all of the width you could get away with having Francescoli out on the right, and almost any team would benefit from having Dunga in the side.
Perhaps might want to look at Seaman. Doubt many have heard of this goalie of yours. Not very recognized and his penalty saving attributes won't be used.
Dunga and either Francescoli or Cannigia.
The group stage of the tournament has concluded and here are the final Group Standings
Group A
1. Team Brwned 9 pts
2. Team KM 6 pts
3. Team Desert Eagle 1 pt
3. Team DanNistelrooy 1 pt
Group B
1. Team kps88 7 pts
2. Team Cal? 6 pts
3. Team Nani Nana 3 pts
4. Team TheHorse'sMouth 1 pt
Group C
1. Team Polaroid 9 pts
2. Team Ralaks 6 pts
3. Team K Stand Knut 3 pts
4. Team IBleedRed 0 pt
Group D
1. Team Gio 9 pts
2. Team Brian GB 6 pts
3. Team Crustanoid 3 pts
4. Team Snow 0 pt
Group winners (Gio) please pick 2 players (1 each from the 2 eliminated teams in your group) to add to your squad. I pick Paolo Maldini and Lothar Matthäus.
Group runner-ups (Ralaks and Team Brian GB) can make your 2 squad additions (also 1 each from the eliminated teams in your group) after the group winners have done so or 12 hours from now, whichever is earlier.
Matchday 7 will be tomorrow
Please update your line-up, tactics and player profiles in the Retro Fantasy main thread by 1500 hours. Alternatively you can PM me. Thank you
Quarter Final 1 at Santiago Bernabéu - Team Brwned vs Team Cal?
Quarter Final 2 at Stade de France - Team kps88 vs Team KM
Quarter Final 3 at San Siro - Team Polaroid vs Team Brian GB
Quarter Final 4 at Stadio Olimpico - Team Gio vs Team Ralaks
Have you made your picks yet?
So if I get through Polaroid I'll be facing Brwned or Cal, great.
Unfortunately for you, Polaroid is now the clear favourite to win the competition, I think he'd beat you followed by Brwned or me quite convincingly.
Matthaus & Maldini after the group stage, and Baresi once he beats you and it'll be almost impossible to win against him... after that, one of Baggio, Cantona or Bergkamp in behind Weah and he'll win the final quite convincingly too.
It is very difficult for me to plan a team or a strategy until Geo picks two players so I can pick. Based on the possible midfielders open to me I cannot get any heavyweights so will not bother, nothing that will make me beat Polaroid that is for certain. As such I think I'll make my very strong defence even stronger, for instance it is very possible this could be my team tomorrow:
I am not sure if Lizarazu and Schmeichel are in the same team but if they are then I could get Ferrara or Hierro instead and have a proper back five, as good as his midfield or his strikforce may become whether I can stand up to him will be based upon my defence. He has decided not to pick a striker for his two new players so will have Suker and Weah up front - my current defence is more than capable of dealing with them whilst his defence isn't that brilliant - I'd fancy Klinsmann against them more.
Schmeichel
Tassotti Sanchis Baresi Lizarazu
Strunz Di Livio
Houghton Le Tissier Le Saux
Klinsmann
I am not sure if Lizarazu and Schmeichel are in the same team but if they are then I could get Ferrara or Hierro instead and have a proper back five, as good as his midfield or his strikforce may become whether I can stand up to him will be based upon my defence. He has decided not to pick a striker for his two new players so will have Suker and Weah up front - my current defence is more than capable of dealing with them whilst his defence isn't that brilliant - I'd fancy Klinsmann against them more.
Good luck to you, I really hope you pull it off (or the rest of the Caf are less awed by Pol's side than I am).
I think I really screwed it up losing the opening game, if I could have got Sammer in there next to Redondo I'd have a much much better chance.
Quite a big difference between ending first and second, don't think we'll see any 2nd placed teams go through the first knockout phase. I mean Polaroid gets to pick Matthaus and Maldini compared to what is left for me.
As for my picks it's very hard I should probably look to replace Heinze with Dixon, but it just feels like such a waste of a pick to pick him. As for the other I should probably pick a midfielder instead of Mølby but I'm not sure who to go with..
As for my picks it's very hard I should probably look to replace Heinze with Dixon, but it just feels like such a waste of a pick to pick him. As for the other I should probably pick a midfielder instead of Mølby but I'm not sure who to go with..
Whatever you do, don't do that. Dixon played RIGHTback all his career, I don't know why K Stand put him at LB.
Do not make the same mistake!!
Whatever you do, don't do that. Dixon played RIGHTback all his career, I don't know why K Stand put him at LB.
Do not make the same mistake!!
I actually thought he played right back but he was never a player I've seen much so I guessed he might be able as a leftie as well since K Stand put him there if I'm being totally honest.
I'll probably sleep on it.
I choose Francescoli and Dunga then.
That was my problem with this picking the scraps plan. It's sort of like the system in Spanish football. Make the strongest stronger.
PM from Team Brian GB
Quarterfinal 3 between Team Brian GB and myself will be pushed back a day
Quarterfinal 4 between Gio and Ralaks can also be postponed if Ralaks agree to it
Quarterfinals 1 and 2 can proceed as scheduled
Team Brian GB said:
Quarterfinal 3 between Team Brian GB and myself will be pushed back a day
Quarterfinal 4 between Gio and Ralaks can also be postponed if Ralaks agree to it
Quarterfinals 1 and 2 can proceed as scheduled
Earlier on in this thread, when the draft was about to be completed and before the matches started, you proposed to scrap player additions and I stated my personal readiness to go along with your proposal but this competition rule can only be changed provided all other 14 managers were also in agreement. As you already know, several managers objected to your proposal hence it did not go through. However, your proposal does have its merits and it is something I am prepared to implement from the start for the 70s Fantasy competition - only drafted players and no additions/transfers.
I will take Fernando Hierro from Snow and Gheorge Hagi from Crustanoid.
Any more room in this? I'm up for it.
Managerial list so far for next Fantasy competition
Crustanoid
Cal?
Nani Nana
Polaroid
Team Brian
Gio
Brwned
Snow
KM
DanNistelrooy
kps88
Ralaks
TheReligion
Cling Bak
Managerial applicants are welcome to come in solo or as a joint managerial team. Only requirement is commitment and co-operation.
There are 14 managerial applicants so far. I am prepared to accept up to 24 teams (4 groups of 6 teams with top 4 in each group progressing to the knockout stage).
Crustanoid
Cal?
Nani Nana
Polaroid
Team Brian
Gio
Brwned
Snow
KM
DanNistelrooy
kps88
Ralaks
TheReligion
Cling Bak
Managerial applicants are welcome to come in solo or as a joint managerial team. Only requirement is commitment and co-operation.
There are 14 managerial applicants so far. I am prepared to accept up to 24 teams (4 groups of 6 teams with top 4 in each group progressing to the knockout stage).
That sounds like a lot! Picking with 16 is hard enough. Or are you paying tribute to Spain '82 and having 24 teams with a second group stage?!
What's the criteria, 1970-79?
Has anyone considered doing a Manchester United draft? Any player from the club's history can be selected. Would be very interesting I feel and I'd be well game for it.
I'm going to pick Eusebio Sacristan from IBleedRed and Jean Pierre Papin from K Stand Knut.
Would have loved a proper left back but both teams are using right backs as left backs and honestly I'd prefer Heintze to that. Papin is going to be a great impact substitute!
Edit: Not decided which striker I'll bench. Papin or Völler.
Would have loved a proper left back but both teams are using right backs as left backs and honestly I'd prefer Heintze to that. Papin is going to be a great impact substitute!
Edit: Not decided which striker I'll bench. Papin or Völler.
Substitutes:
Olaf Thon
Jan Mølby
Rudi Völler
Mad Jens:
Well everyone knows him. Around 700 games in club football and 61 caps despite playing understudy to Kahn. A part of the invincibles and went 853 minutes without conceeding CL football. Not the most reliable goalkeeper but I still think, since we're going by peak, that he is a great goalkeeper for this draft.
João Pinto:
Among the best Portuguese right backs ever, he was a big part of the Porto team of the 80ies and 90ies where he won more or less everything he could at club level (including captaining his team to CL triumph). A very solid right back who could probably have played for most teams in Europe if not for his loyalty to Porto.
Steve Bruce:
A good shout for a place among the best ever United defensive pair. Also a big threat on attacking corners, always worth a fair few goals per season.
Aldair:
Roma legend. His peak was arguably in 1994 when he won the Fifa World Cup with Brazil. Played a lot of games for both Roma and Brazil including 3 World Cup tournaments. Quite comfortable with the ball at his feet and able to run the ball out of defense as well.
Jan Heintze:
Peaked in 1988 where he won the Dutch treble - CL, League and Cup. Ever present for both club and country.
Didier Deschamps:
The water carrier. CL winner (twice), WC winner, EC Winner. Has more or less won all he could crave.
Guillermo Amor:
An influental part of the way Barcelona played in a 10 year period. Fourth most capped Barcelona player ever. Yet another CL winner.
Eusebio Sacristán
When he peaked he was one of the players used most at Barcelona winning 4 league titles, 1 EC and 1 CWC.
Brian Laudrup:
He'll play a free role for my team, running around doing what he does best. A bit of a journeyman at club level but it was always obvious to everyone that he had a very big talent. A big part of the succesfull 1992 Danish Euro Championship run, won the Danish Player of the year then as well (at a point where Laudrup played his game at Barcelona and Schmeichel at United, so that is no small feat).
Marco Van Basten:
The best saved for last. Argueably the best striker available in this draft. The amount of personal honours he has won is beyond the counting abilities of the mortal man so I won't even try to amass what he has won.
Jean-Pierre Papin:
Great striker with a deadly instinct. His goal to game ratio is roughly a goal every second game, which is mighty fine. Ballon d'Or winner 1991, which I'd say is his peak.
Small notes:
My full backs will be asked to do a lot of wide work, Didier Deschamps is among the best at covering up so I'm not really that fussed about them running up the pitch when I'm in attack. Laudrup will play a free role providing width, penetration and etc. As for my front pair Van Basten will play behind Papin as I see Papin as the poacher in the relationship. I've replaced Jan Mølby with Eusebio Sacristán, which honestly won't mean much when played in this way, ie next to Amor in front of Deschamps. He'll help create chances which my strikers will easily convert against whoever. Lastly I've replaced Völler with Papin in my main XI, very hard decision but alas Papin was the best at his peak imo.
Substitutes:
Jan Mølby:
Fat as feck and ex-scouse, not going to win a lot of votes with him on here. Adds a great deal of versatility to the team. Can play both as a sweeper and as a regular midfielder.
Olaf Thon:
Nicknamed The Professor. Can play both defender and midfielder, his great football intelligence makes him a perfect suit for me in this substitute role, if I'm leading by a vote or two he'll be put on to hold on to that lead.
Rudi Völler:
A great finisher, left foot, right foot, headers. Ice cold finisher as well, probably due to his amazing 'tache. He didn't win much, but what he won was the most desireable: CL and the WC. He would probably be insulted to now be a bench warmer - and rightly so.
Quarterfinal between Team Brwned and Team Cal? kicking off within the next 30 min
If both managers have anything to add on top of the formation graphic which they have already provided, for example tactics and updated player profiles, they can do so in this thread now or in the match thread after it is posted. Remember that you can always make tactical adjustments during the course of the match.
If both managers have anything to add on top of the formation graphic which they have already provided, for example tactics and updated player profiles, they can do so in this thread now or in the match thread after it is posted. Remember that you can always make tactical adjustments during the course of the match.