Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

stefan92 said:
Two phases. You are thinking of the initial attack, but later Russia reached the airport with their ground troops (but weren't able to advance much further to Kiyv). I believe we are seeing the second phase here.
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I think that is correct. The initial attempt to land armour failed miserably because all transports were shot down.
 


Appears to be this, where a Russian was filming. Warning: Injured/traumatised Russian troops.
 
Reports now that Ukraine have surrounded Shevchenkove and significant numbers of armor are bypassing the city and pushing forward towards Kupiansk. This is a major breakthrough with the Ukrainian troops advancing 40km in a couple of days.

If they are able to cut off the supply lines going through Kupiansk all of the Russian troops further south in the Izyum area might be completly cut off from any resuplies.
 
Simbo said:
Genuinely incredible to hear something like like. I guess it has been released to back up some of the images and actions of Macron since this started. Fair play, he has literally been calling Putin at Zelensky's request to attempt diplomacy.

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Zelensky confirmed Russian shill?
 
McGrathsipan said:
Hes not wrong unfortunately
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Ehhh, kinda. But it's a bit like saying the sky is full of demons because the sun sets at night, it's a mental statement you confirm with a unrelated fact.

It's the way all party leaders get elected, and was voted on by members then MPs (of the party that won the general election) by nature a democratic process, also there's an extreme likelihood there will be an early election to confirm the will of the people before 2025, if the public don't like her it'll be pretty clear and will make a difference. You don't take democracy advice or critique from a guy that runs unopposed or jails his opponents.
 
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Dans said:
That's not the point.
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That's the whole point as this is how Russian propaganda in the West works. Take a little true point, blow it out of proportion and use that to justify whatever Russia is doing. They don't try to say that they are the good guys, they just focus on saying "you are as bad as we are, but on top you are hypocrites".
 
The point is to debunk the propaganda, obviously. So him saying that is as hypocritical as it gets. That's the point.

Edit - I'm talking about my point, not his.
 
Belarus are lining up on Ukraine border. Looks to me a pathetic way to stop Ukrainian offense, and a thing that could set Belarus back 500 years. I'm sure that would piss off neighbouring countries like Poland even more.
 
RedDevilQuebecois said:
That detail may have escaped me, but I thought the Gulf War was a massive blitz that started from Saudi Arabia.

The only amphibious operation in that war was a capture of offshore oil rigs by the SEALs.
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The amphibious assault was a deception and part of dessert storm. I just wondered if the Ukrainians were using the attack on Kherson at least in part as a deception to tie Russian forces there.
 
Don't Kill Bill said:
The amphibious assault was a deception and part of dessert storm. I just wondered if the Ukrainians were using the attack on Kherson at least in part as a deception to tie Russian forces there.
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It looks a bit that way. They know it's quicker for them to move around on their side of the frontline than for the Russians to move around their side.
 
take it with a pinch of salt as it comes from Russian sources:

Says Ukraine forces are 2km outside of Kupiansk and they’re (Russia) unlikely to hold it.
 
I don't think the Kherson offensive is intended as a deception but the fact that Russia has moved such a large amount of equipment and manpower there has opened up possibilties in other places.
Liberating Kherson is most likely still the main objective, it is a very important city economically speaking and the fact that it is on the wrong side of the Dnieper makes it very costly to defend for the Russians.

Looking at what is happening in Kharkiv it seems like the Russians have not prepared any secondary lines of defense and once the Ukrainians have penetrated the front lines they are able to push forward just by bypassing the cities and leaving the Russians trapped inside. It will be interesting to see if Russia has prepared any secondary lines of defense on the other side of the Dnieper in the Kherson area. If not, Ukraine might be able to cross the river when the Russian troops are retreating and establish a bridgehead for future offensives towards Crimea.
 
Kherson is not deception, but moving large numbers of manpower to defend it when you can't actually supply them, is irrational. Russian pride is their undoing, they won't acknowledge defeat and settle for less until they've been battered beyond possibility of hiding it.
 
Rajma said:
Rumors now that Shevchenkovoe direction is falling apart for Russians, if confirmed that would be huge from strategic point of view as the main supply route to Izium would now be under the artillery range.
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NotThatSoph said:
Zelensky confirmed Russian shill?
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"The mask is slipping."

(Not helpful, I know, but I find the 'if you don't agree with me 100% you're supporting Russia' stance extremely frustrating.)
 
Seems like it's going really well so far for Ukraine in Kharkiv Oblast.



 
Watching videos from the Kharkiv offensive and one thing that really stands out is the lack of Russian tanks and artillery in the area, the whole area seems to have been defended by only infantry.
 
the hea said:
Watching videos from the Kharkiv offensive and one thing that really stands out is the lack of Russian tanks and artillery in the area, the whole area seems to have been defended by only infantry.
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Seems like Ukraine prepared well and got rid of a lot of heavy Russian equipment ahead of their charge. Precision guided long range artillery doing their job I presume.
 
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