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While true it would make more sense to look at it month by month, as you will then see a clear drop, it just took time to create and implement sanctions, but early on the physical volume of imports was similar to last year, but more money was paid due to higher prices.
 
So apparently there was no significant Ukrainian military presence at all in Sumy at the start of the invasion? It was mostly self-defense forces according to this Guardian article. Sumy was one of the first places that the Russians entered.

City council workers and close friends, 29-year-olds, Serhiy and Ihor, were among the 400 Sumy residents that took up arms on the first day of the invasion. Others joined in the days that followed as they overcame the shock, according to those involved. They said only about 20 out of 400 had previous military experience and coordination was carried out through messaging apps and phone calls, with groups riding around to locations in civilian cars and trucks to meet the incoming Russians.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...sidents-kept-russian-forces-out-of-their-city
 
While true it would make more sense to look at it month by month, as you will then see a clear drop, it just took time to create and implement sanctions, but early on the physical volume of imports was similar to last year, but more money was paid due to higher prices.

The fact remains that the EU gave more money to Russia in 2022 than in 2021. And a big reason for this is that for more than two decades German politicians have been advocating in the EU for Russian companies. For example, see:

https://www.politico.eu/article/blame-germany-russia-policy/

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Such obdurance serves as a reminder that Germany didn’t sell its soul to Russia overnight; It was a process that took years, by the end of which the entire country was complicit.

No German is more responsible for the crisis in Ukraine than Merkel.
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The fact remains that the EU gave more money to Russia in 2022 than in 2021.
Yes, but that's a different statement. Verhofstadt claimed that the sanctions have no effect and that's simply wrong.

One has to acknowledge that it took time to show an effect and that therefore the 2022/2021 comparison doesn't look good, but 2023 will look much different.
 
Yes, but that's a different statement. Verhofstadt claimed that the sanctions have no effect and that's simply wrong.

One has to acknowledge that it took time to show an effect and that therefore the 2022/2021 comparison doesn't look good, but 2023 will look much different.

No, what Guy Verhofstadt wrote is just the facts, it is exactly what happened in 2022. Please read it again:

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9 packages of sanctions and the effect is less than 0 !

We are rewarding Russia for its war against us !>>
 
It is very simple. The EU should do more to help Ukraine. Now! The EU has to do much more than what the US is doing, it is as simple as that.


 
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No, what Guy Verhofstadt wrote is just the facts, it is exactly what happened in 2022. Please read it again:

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9 packages of sanctions and the effect is less than 0 !

We are rewarding Russia for its war against us !>>
Well yes, when did those sanctions come into effect? It wasn't at the beginning of the year. If you want to see the effect of 9 packages of sanctions you have to compare the time when they are implemented to the time before. Everything else is either stupid or cheap populism.
 

Verhofstadt said something very simple. The EU paid Russia more money in 2022 than in 2021. This is a fact. It is not an interpretation, it is fact.

The EU should be doing more to help Ukraine. Again, this is very simple. The EU should be doing more than what the US is doing. The EU has this responsibility because in the past 20 years the EU, and especially Germany, encouraged Putin against the advice of the US. Germany and the EU helped create this mess, they should feel responsible for the Ukrainians that suffer and die every day, and they should help Ukraine beat Russia. The EU can do much more and should be doing much more.
 
142% increase for Greece, you think the EU should do something about them?

The EU should do something about the EU.

Germany has the primary responsibility for this mess. And now about Greece, between 2010-2019 it was basically Germany that made all Greek economic decisions, it was the corrupt Merkel government that destroyed the Greek economy (GPD down 23%!), and yes, it was Germany that pushed Greece to depend more on Russia.
 
The EU should do something about the EU.

Germany has the primary responsibility for this mess. And now about Greece, between 2010-2019 it was basically Germany that made all Greek economic decisions, it was the corrupt Merkel government that destroyed the Greek economy (GPD down 23%!), and yes, it was Germany that pushed Greece to depend more on Russia.

That's what I thought.. :lol:
 
The EU should do something about the EU.

Germany has the primary responsibility for this mess. And now about Greece, between 2010-2019 it was basically Germany that made all Greek economic decisions, it was the corrupt Merkel government that destroyed the Greek economy (GPD down 23%!), and yes, it was Germany that pushed Greece to depend more on Russia.
:lol:
 
Verhofstadt said something very simple. The EU paid Russia more money in 2022 than in 2021. This is a fact. It is not an interpretation, it is fact.
Again, that's not what anyone disputes, but it is definitely a fact. But he also stated that the sanctions have zero effect and that's false.
The EU should do something about the EU.

Germany has the primary responsibility for this mess. And now about Greece, between 2010-2019 it was basically Germany that made all Greek economic decisions, it was the corrupt Merkel government that destroyed the Greek economy (GPD down 23%!), and yes, it was Germany that pushed Greece to depend more on Russia.
So in other words, if Germany doesn't take the leadership role, Germany is responsible for everything bad.
And if Germany does take the leadership role Germany is responsible for everything bad as well.

Your logic would fit well into a Russian talk show.
 
Verhofstadt said something very simple. The EU paid Russia more money in 2022 than in 2021. This is a fact. It is not an interpretation, it is fact.

The EU should be doing more to help Ukraine. Again, this is very simple. The EU should be doing more than what the US is doing. The EU has this responsibility because in the past 20 years the EU, and especially Germany, encouraged Putin against the advice of the US. Germany and the EU helped create this mess, they should feel responsible for the Ukrainians that suffer and die every day, and they should help Ukraine beat Russia. The EU can do much more and should be doing much more.

Exactly, he said something very simple, and simple is the most stupid thing to do in an analysis so complex with so many variables, with relatives and absolutes

Ill say it again stupid, is a very simplustic and stupid analysis in special the conclusions. Very stupid. Did i said it yet? A very stupid analysis
 
Back to the topic, where Russians are again using incendiary ammo on Kherson city right now:


I really hope Ukrainian armed forces can finally receive everything what they need to push these savages out from their country. Inhuman evil saturated their lands.
 
Exactly, he said something very simple, and simple is the most stupid thing to do in an analysis so complex with so many variables, with relatives and absolutes

Ill say it again stupid, is a very simplustic and stupid analysis in special the conclusions. Very stupid. Did i said it yet? A very stupid analysis

A better way to do it would be to calculate how much oil and gas Europe bought in 2021 and compare that to 2022. If we’ve halved our purchases but at double the price then we will end up paying the same amount. But that clearly only tells half the story. Fossil fuel prices hopefully won’t remain this high, but if Europe finds proper long term alternatives to Russia then 2022 will have been a highly successful year i terms of negating Putin’s weaponisation of the stuff.
 
Back to the topic, where Russians are again using incendiary ammo on Kherson city right now:


I really hope Ukrainian armed forces can finally receive everything what they need to push these savages out from their country. Inhuman evil saturated their lands.


Nothing the Russians do should surprise anyone anymore. They were rejected by the local population when they occupied the city and would never be accepted if they were to magically reclaim it. This is pure late stage desperation by Putin to destroy and damage as much as he can before the inevitable pullback.
 
Back to the topic, where Russians are again using incendiary ammo on Kherson city right now:


I really hope Ukrainian armed forces can finally receive everything what they need to push these savages out from their country. Inhuman evil saturated their lands.

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I also hope Ukraine gets the goods too. Bombs should be raining all over military targets and other strategic pieces of infrastructure across Crimea for starters.
 
That's what I thought.. :lol:

All of frostbite's hundreds of comments about Germany over the last year is a direct consequence of the Greek debt crisis, so in a way you Germans are to blame for those as well.
 


Is this an indication that in the upcoming weeks with a start of freezing temperatures we can expect a move towards Luhansk?
 

Olaf won’t have any excuses now…

I'm not really sure what to call it, wheeled gun maybe but the AMX10RC is definitely not a tank.
Wheeled and light armor are not characteristics of a tank.

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I'm not really sure what to call it, wheeled gun maybe but the AMX10RC is definitely not a tank.
Wheeled and light armor are not characteristics of a tank.
It's definitely not a main battle tank (which often seems to be the only type of vehicle English speaking refer to as a tank), but the French army does call it a tank and in other languages the equivalent word is used for a lot of armoured vehicles as well (in German we would call a main battle tank a "Kampfpanzer" = "fighting tank", the AMX-10 RC would be a "Spähpanzer" = "reconnaissance tank" etc).

It's a bit unique that in English all those different armoured vehicles aren't called tanks but instead we are talking about "Armoured Fighting Vehicles", "Infantery Fighting Vehicles" etc. So don't be surprised if a French or German does call a vehicle a tank that isn't an MBT - we know the difference, in our languages there are just a lot of different kinds of tanks.