SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Apparently there are posts on Facebook thanking Comrade Boris for re-opening Primark.
We're the country that trolls itself.
 
With some of the stuff in here it is getting hard to tell these days. What a fecking shit show the UK's response has been.
It certainly has, the response has been handled in a very cack handed way throughout. I think the Cummings affair was the last straw for many who now just go and do want they want regardless.
 
Sometimes I really dislike the UK. I'm beginning to regret moving back here.
 
Sometimes I really dislike the UK. I'm beginning to regret moving back here.

Me too. Only been back for 2 years. Will be leaving For good in 5ish. If the government doesn’t change, I won’t be staying. This place is toxic.
 
Sometimes I really dislike the UK. I'm beginning to regret moving back here.
Well the government's handling of this is actually finally making me consider going to move to Ireland. My wife is Irish but has lived in Manchester longer than she ever spent in Ireland.

Given how much they have completely fecked this up I don't want to be around for when they screw up something more complex like international trade agreements.
 
Sometimes I really dislike the UK. I'm beginning to regret moving back here.

Brexit and the current shitshow has removed any possibility that I'lll ever move back.
 


Worth noting that Sun Mon are the lowest days and expect a jump tomorrow but this is still lower than last Sun Mon of 77 and 55, total 132 vs 74
 
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FFS. I keep forgetting that the world is full of fecking idiots. Never underestimate how many fecking idiots we’re dealing with here.
 
Worth noting that Sun Mon are the lowest days and expect a jump tomorrow but this is still lower than last Sun Mon of 77 and 55, total 132 vs 74

The cumulative trends are encouraging. Still remains frustrating that number of people tested isn't mentioned as we could use them to extrapolate incidence of disease if new cases are declining or not increasing in line with more people testing, which would mean community transmission is on a downward or manageable leve (especially in terms of NHS capacity).

Next month or so we'll get a good sense of how we're headed because today saw a significant milestone being crossed in terms of relaxing lockdown with all non-essential shops opening with social bubbles already under way.

Part of me is worried that with pubs, restaurants, hotels, cinemas due to open on July 4th whether we've got this down significantly enough to prevent future spikes.

The biggest gamechanger I think will be ramping up home delivery kits for covid (and quickly if possible) and ofcourse a robust track and trace system that people follow.
So far I think these findings suggest a better-than-expected aggregate effect of behavioural changes. But its touch and go and I'm trying to think whether this is me being naive and overly eager for good news given the shit sandwich of a deal we've been dealing versus cautious optimism.
 
The cumulative trends are encouraging. Still remains frustrating that number of people tested isn't mentioned as we could use them to extrapolate incidence of disease if new cases are declining or not increasing in line with more people testing, which would mean community transmission is on a downward or manageable leve (especially in terms of NHS capacity).

Next month or so we'll get a good sense of how we're headed because today saw a significant milestone being crossed in terms of relaxing lockdown with all non-essential shops opening with social bubbles already under way.

Part of me is worried that with pubs, restaurants, hotels, cinemas due to open on July 4th whether we've got this down significantly enough to prevent future spikes.

The biggest gamechanger I think will be ramping up home delivery kits for covid (and quickly if possible) and ofcourse a robust track and trace system that people follow.
So far I think these findings suggest a better-than-expected aggregate effect of behavioural changes. But its touch and go and I'm trying to think whether this is me being naive and overly eager for good news given the shit sandwich of a deal we've been dealing versus cautious optimism.
I think looking at just pillar 1 from here achieves that quite well, though not perfectly.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public
 
Speaking of cautious optimism some good news on vaccine front
https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/news/sinovac-coronavac-data/
Sinovac Biotech Ltd has said that data from Phase I and II on 743 people shows 90% seroprevalence of antibodies in those given jabs containing an inactive/killed coronavirus at 14 days and no major side effects
Caveats being data unpublished, data at 28 days due to be published, they didn't test anybody aged 60 or over who are most at risk from disease in terms of mortality and classicly most difficult to get sustained immunity in post-inoculation
However good that their phase III is due to start and large trial will be in Brazil - both in terms of proof of concept for the vaccine and potentially (hopefully) helping a vulnerable population from a dictatorial piece of shit in Bolsonaro
 
Seems disingenuous for so many people focusing on shaming people at Primark.

Look at the pics at Bicester village from today.

It seems far more likely families will need cheap clothes from primark for growing kids over the summer than people need long marked down offseason designer clothes.
 
The cumulative trends are encouraging. Still remains frustrating that number of people tested isn't mentioned as we could use them to extrapolate incidence of disease if new cases are declining or not increasing in line with more people testing, which would mean community transmission is on a downward or manageable leve (especially in terms of NHS capacity).

Next month or so we'll get a good sense of how we're headed because today saw a significant milestone being crossed in terms of relaxing lockdown with all non-essential shops opening with social bubbles already under way.

Part of me is worried that with pubs, restaurants, hotels, cinemas due to open on July 4th whether we've got this down significantly enough to prevent future spikes.

The biggest gamechanger I think will be ramping up home delivery kits for covid (and quickly if possible) and ofcourse a robust track and trace system that people follow.
So far I think these findings suggest a better-than-expected aggregate effect of behavioural changes. But its touch and go and I'm trying to think whether this is me being naive and overly eager for good news given the shit sandwich of a deal we've been dealing versus cautious optimism.
Just half the number of tests and you will probably get your answer.
 
Speaking of cautious optimism some good news on vaccine front
https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/news/sinovac-coronavac-data/
Sinovac Biotech Ltd has said that data from Phase I and II on 743 people shows 90% seroprevalence of antibodies in those given jabs containing an inactive/killed coronavirus at 14 days and no major side effects
Caveats being data unpublished, data at 28 days due to be published, they didn't test anybody aged 60 or over who are most at risk from disease in terms of mortality and classicly most difficult to get sustained immunity in post-inoculation
However good that their phase III is due to start and large trial will be in Brazil - both in terms of proof of concept for the vaccine and potentially (hopefully) helping a vulnerable population from a dictatorial piece of shit in Bolsonaro

I also like that this is an old school technology. I get a bit nervous about the idea of rolling out the RNA vaccines using viral vectors on a massive scale, when they’re so new/untested.

EDIT: Plus it’s a good name. CoronaVac. If Ronseal made vaccines...
 
FFS. I keep forgetting that the world is full of fecking idiots. Never underestimate how many fecking idiots we’re dealing with here.
I'm the idiot this time it was actually an old picture. I was trying to get the one from today that everybody at work were talking about but got the wrong one.
 
It would make a lot more sense to relax shopping hours right now so you can get more people in over the course of the day (less overcrowding).

Will never happen of course.

Nice idea, but shops won’t be able to afford to pay out more in wages.
 
I've had to go into town this morning and collect my prescription and judging by the queues outside shops I think I can safety say the threat from Covid 19 is over.
100 yard queue for sports direct ffs.
Of course the queues are going to be long if people are keeping 2m apart! You know the alternative, right?
 
Know someone who works in Arnotts department store. Said it was absolute chaos the first few days, customers wouldn’t listen to requests to keep their distance

Someone should invent a blue tooth armband that gives you a little shock when you’re too close. And by little, I mean a huge fecking cattle voltage shock
 
No deaths reported in Ireland or Northern Ireland today.
 
So 2 new cases here in NZ after 24 or so days without a case. 2 Travellers from Britain who had exemptions for a funeral.
 
Even with UK hit hard, for two people out of 67 million that arrive to NZ having it is quite something. Wonder if they caught it on the plane or testing picking up remnants? Probably 10-20k carrying it in UK?
 
Even with UK hit hard, for two people out of 67 million that arrive to NZ having it is quite something. Wonder if they caught it on the plane or testing picking up remnants? Probably 10-20k carrying it in UK?

Depends how many are allowed in as the ones without Covid won't make the news.
 
In quarantine?
They are now. They did leave Auckland airport, drive to Wellington to attend a funeral but apparently they only had contact with one other person which sounds like a tiny funeral. They arrived in NZ via Brisbane so hopefully the contact tracing is happening at Brisbane airport too. They are sisters. Apparently they werent tested on arrival and one had mild sysmptoms but it was attributed to a pre existing condition. Seems madness to me that they werent tested at the airport. From now I think everyone will be tested.
 
They are now. They did leave Auckland airport, drive to Wellington to attend a funeral but apparently they only had contact with one other person which sounds like a tiny funeral. They arrived in NZ via Brisbane so hopefully the contact tracing is happening at Brisbane airport too. They are sisters. Apparently they werent tested on arrival and one had mild sysmptoms but it was attributed to a pre existing condition. Seems madness to me that they werent tested at the airport. From now I think everyone will be tested.


Bloomfield said they travelled from Auckland to Wellington “in a private vehicle” after they were granted a compassionate exemption to do so and made a safety plan with officials. They had not been tested for Covid-19 at the time.

The pair had made the drive of approximately eight hours without refuelling their vehicle or disembarking for any reason, including to use public toilets, he said.

I’m not sure I believe them.