US Politics

[berbatrick]

Given which party gains the most from gerrymandering it's perfectly evident that in reaching its conclusion the court has already picked a side. Its reasoning is far more incidious than 'can't be seen to be partisan' though. Roberts said the following:



So the real argument is that, while the court recognises as fact that gerrymandering is anti-democratic and unjust, the constitution fails to provide federal recourse. Ergo it isn't properly within the remit of the SCOTUS to make rulings on such matters. Instead the only lawful option was to donate their testicles to the gerrymandered states themselves.

from a different era
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims

 

[crappycraperson]

i know this is a low blow but im going to do it anyway. @crappycraperson

 

[Red Dreams]

Given which party gains the most from gerrymandering it's perfectly evident that in reaching its conclusion the court has already picked a side. Its reasoning is far more incidious than 'can't be seen to be partisan' though. Roberts said the following:



So the real argument is that, while the court recognises as fact that gerrymandering is anti-democratic and unjust, the constitution fails to provide federal recourse. Ergo it isn't properly within the remit of the SCOTUS to make rulings on such matters. Instead the only lawful option was to donate their testicles to the gerrymandered states themselves.

pure abdication of responsibility at a minimum.

It is the responsibility of the SC to ensure laws are applied equally.
One person one vote and there is no dilution of that vote.

 

[berbatrick]

I think the real question now is how the Democrats should start doing it in the states where they have a trifecta (governor/state senate/house).

In a bit of snap analysis over at ScotusBlog, Eric Citron says that the partisan gerrymandering ruling is every bit as far-reaching as voting rights advocates feared.

The troublesome concern here is that should, for example, a Republican-led legislature in North Carolina or elsewhere redraw district lines in a way that disenfranchises Democrats, there would be no way to appeal that action beyond the circuit court level (and it seems that the supreme court in this case is saying that not even circuit courts should look at partisan gerrymandering cases):

The holding here is that such claims are non-justiciable -- that they are not of the kind that courts can decide. That admits of very few factual exceptions, if any. Essentially, if your claim sounds in partisan gerrymandering, the courts cannot accept it.

 

[Ekkie Thump]

I think the real question now is how the Democrats should start doing it in the states where they have a trifecta (governor/state senate/house).

I can't see that happening because the Dems play politics terribly. If it did i reckon we might suddenly find (to our delight) that a hitherto overlooked passage of amendment 14, or whatever, does in fact vest federal courts with the power to intervene but only under certain, special, circumstances.

 

[fishfingers15]

Where Dems have a trifecta, they don't need gerrymandering to win anything

 

[berbatrick]

Where Dems have a trifecta, they don't need gerrymandering to win anything

They can do it for the congressional districts too, right? Would help them in the House.

 

[berbatrick]

https://old.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapH...looking_forward_to_the_54_ruling_in_favor_of/

 

[berbatrick]

 

[Red Dreams]

Congress simply needs to bypass the SC via a new Voting rights Act which will apply to all 50 states which will include gerrymandering issues.

 

[Raoul]

Seems Drumpf has unwittingly appointed the next Souter.

 

[Eboue]

"extremist centrist" should have been the first clue to never listen to that guy

 

[Red Dreams]

Shit for Brains does not like the SC decision on the Census

 

[Drifter]

Chuck Schumer ‘will pay a heavy price’ for throwing House Dems ‘under the bus’: senior Democratic aide

House Democrats are livid at Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) for giving the Trump administration a “blank check” for border funding.

“Schumer threw all of House Democrats under the bus and he will pay a heavy price for that,” a senior Democratic aide told Politico’s Jake Sherman.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) blasted the bill passed by the Senate.

“Under no circumstances should the House vote for a [Mitch] McConnell-only bill w/ no negotiation with Democrats,” AOC instructed. “Hell no.”

“That’s an abdication of power we should refuse to accept. They will keep hurting kids if we do,” she predicted.

“This Senate Bill will have us write a $4.6 Billion blank check (including military money) for the border with no accountability – just a verbal pinky promise,” she explained. “Trump is not to be trusted with protecting our immigrants. Why must that even be stated? We need hard lines of protection, in ink.”

 

[Adisa]

Schumer is a disgrace.

 

[Red Dreams]

Alexandria just bitch slapped Schumer.

 

[Adisa]

 

[crappycraperson]

Pelosi has folded too. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/27/house-vote-emergency-border-package-1385222

Pence told Pelosi they'd "voluntarily abide by some of the restrictions she had sought, including notifying lawmakers within 24 hours after the death of a migrant child in government custody".

 

[Eboue]

Schumer and Pelosi are some of the biggest pieces of shit alive. The world would be a better place if both just dropped dead.

 

[Red Dreams]

Billions should not need to be approved to prevent innocent children dying.
We are a morally bankrupt country.

 

[langster]

Schumer and Pelosi are some of the biggest pieces of shit alive. The world would be a better place if both just dropped dead.

A pair of spineless cnuts. They love trolling Trump yet doing absolutely feck all to stop or prevent him doing the shit he does. All piss and wind. I despise the pair of them. Yay, let's celebrate and laugh because we stood up to him and made him walk out a room in anger, but let's not follow through on anything.

 

[Eboue]

Republicans are evil. It's really as simple as that

 

[Red Dreams]

The proof is in the pudding.
This simply shows the Democrats are in lock step with the Republicans .

Just look who they are pushing for president.

Absolutely no reason to vote for them next year.

 

[Eboue]

A pair of spineless cnuts. They love trolling Trump yet doing absolutely feck all to stop or prevent him doing the shit he does. All piss and wind. I despise the pair of them. Yay, let's celebrate and laugh because we stood up to him and made him walk out a room in anger, but let's not follow through on anything.

Reminds of that absolute cretin who runs dailykos.

 

[langster]

Republicans are evil. It's really as simple as that

That is absolutely fecking disgusting. Seriously. How is that not worthy of a ban?

He's the type of despicable cnut who would consider Detroit to be a comedy film. fecking evil piece of shit.

 

[Dobba]

Ah. That sweet, sweet centrism.

 

[Aboutreika18]

Schumer and Pelosi are some of the biggest pieces of shit alive. The world would be a better place if both just dropped dead.

Remember months back when Pelosi sarcastically applauded Trump and everyone was losing their shit and bigging her up?

 

[berbatrick]

Yaaaaas

 

[Eboue]

Remember months back when Pelosi sarcastically applauded Trump and everyone was losing their shit and bigging her up?

Yeah even though she admitted it wasnt sarcastic ffs

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...trump-state-union-wasnt-sarcastic/2806817002/

 

[Red Dreams]

Progressives will give the DNC another huge loss if they push Biden to the nomination.

 

[berbatrick]

 

[Ekkie Thump]

Alexandria just bitch slapped Schumer.

Sadly, it's the reverse. Kiddie camp just became bipartisan.

 

[Florida Man]

Republicans are evil. It's really as simple as that

I signed into my years old account just to report this. feck this nobody.

 

[Pagh Wraith]

That woman never misses a chance to embarrass herself. She is the intellectual equivalent of the president on the left, isn't she?

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

This Andrew Schock scandal is pretty wild.

 

[SwansonsTache]

That woman never misses a chance to embarrass herself. She is the intellectual equivalent of the president on the left, isn't she?

The best parts are the ones where she portrays a tax expert.

 

[nimic]

That woman never misses a chance to embarrass herself. She is the intellectual equivalent of the president on the left, isn't she?

I don't like calling opinions stupid.

That said...

 

[Florida Man]

That woman never misses a chance to embarrass herself. She is the intellectual equivalent of the president on the left, isn't she?

What exactly was wrong with what she said?

 

[Pagh Wraith]

What exactly was wrong with what she said?

Using the term concentration camp to describe facilities people are free to leave from is just vile and demeaning the Holocaust. The backlash from actual Holocaust survivors should tell her as much. This is not the first she has displayed an astonishing ignorance and lack of knowledge about history to make a point that suits her political agenda (hence the Trump comparison).

 

[2ndTouch]

Using the term concentration camp to describe facilities people are free to leave from is just vile and demeaning the Holocaust. The backlash from actual Holocaust survivors should tell her as much. This is not the first she has displayed an astonishing ignorance and lack of knowledge about history to make a point that suits her political agenda (hence the Trump comparison).

Yeah, if it ain't Auschwitz it's not a concentration camp, sure...
Gosh, how I loathe this foul way of using the Holocaust as an immunization tool for just about any inhuman policy.