We will never win the league with Lukaku up front

This thread was absolutely spot on. We need to feck him off if we want to challenge for any big trophy.
 
How much money could we realistically get back by selling him?

I think a swap deal with Juve for Dyabala would be our best option.
 
Please drop him for a run of 5-10 games and play Martial and Sanchez. Our attack would be transformed.

Sadly, that will never happen.
 
He's not awful, but he's so wasteful in front of goal it hurts us every game. I'd love to see us play without him for a few games just to see what happens.
 
He managed to vaguely competent second half and Sky were acting like it was the second coming of Pele. He’s useless for the money paid and so far beneath the standard of our rivals. He doesn’t even score that prolifically.
 
But maybe he is a guy who should be played into form?

I know what will happen if Lukaku is rested. Rashford/sanchez will have a stinker through the middle and everyone will say how they knew they were overrated and get the feck out of the club. Some will call for Greenwood to start.

I honestly don't know what to make of our striker situation.
 
He's not awful, but he's so wasteful in front of goal it hurts us every game. I'd love to see us play without him for a few games just to see what happens.

You think he's wasteful but that's because of his own doing.

Lack of movement is really the main reason why he didn't get enough chances, he made our players too difficult to give him service. And when he gets one, he wasted it.

Poor first touch and inability to hold the ball in a tight spot just sums up how he's not going to take us to the next level because he is slowing down our tempo play.
 
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We could have played the entire first half without him. He literally stood up top and didn't move for the ball. I was a massive fan of his, and quite excited when we bought him, but I honestly think we'd be better of with anyone else up front. He just isn't good enough at the moment to propel us to a level that we need to be at.
 
Wow. I wanted him but he’s been pathetic this season. We could do with someone like Giroud up top in order to try get the best out of Martial and Rashford our wide.
 
We are a complete mismatch, he isnt suited to us and he also isnt good enough. We cant create enough chances, but he also barely creates something himself. His movement is poor too. I am not sure he will get better, he should be near his best at the moment when he hasnt peaked physically and injuries start kicking in.
 
Being brutally honest he's nowhere near good enough if we have any hopes of winning the title in the next few years.
 
Same could be said with Chelsea and Morata/Giroud, we both need Striker upgrades to be PL winners anytime soon IMO.
 
I seem to recall a 35 years old Zlatan being better at getting behind the defence and finding 1vs1 oportunities v keepers. He could trap the passes from Pogba et al as well. Something is rotten in Denmark..
 
He’s a player short on confidence. He’ll come good and score a lot of goals for us. Not world class though and never will be. I still maintain that he should be played narrow on the right. Let Rashford and Sánchez compete for a false 9 position. We’ll bang them in.
 
Never have truer words been spoken. Scholes said it. We've said it. It's only the manager who can't see it.
 
Lukaku is quite symbolic of what United are nowadays. Gone are the RVP's,RVN's of this world getting fed by the Nani Giggs Becks' Valencia etc. Its Rom getting supplied by Rasjford, Sanchez et al. In the great words of Tywin Lannister, "We are no longer a house to be feared"
 
But maybe he is a guy who should be played into form?

I know what will happen if Lukaku is rested. Rashford/sanchez will have a stinker through the middle and everyone will say how they knew they were overrated and get the feck out of the club. Some will call for Greenwood to start.

I honestly don't know what to make of our striker situation.
I don't think it's necessarily just about form though .... his first touch is shocking for a professional player, his holdup ability is poor for a top team's forward and he doesn't seem to understand how to move/stretch a defence.

Form could be sorted, the above can't. I was ok with buying him but think that's because I'd only seen highlights of Everton games.... when you watch 90 minutes, his flaws are more apparent and even with 20 goals, what he takes away from the team is too much.
 
How much money could we realistically get back by selling him?

I think a swap deal with Juve for Dyabala would be our best option.
:lol::lol::lol: as if Dybala and Lukaku are comparable. Juve wouldn't even consider this swap for one second!

Just because we paid a lot for Lukaku doesn't make him one of the best in the world. We could have bought a much cheaper striker who would net us 16 goals a season.

Can't see any team paying even close to what we paid for him if he was on the market given his form/goal return for us.
 
He needs competition. Maybe then he'd wake up and realise he needs to work on his first touch.
 
Being brutally honest he's nowhere near good enough if we have any hopes of winning the title in the next few years.
Forget winning the league even, if we wanna improve the overall footballing quality of our team, we cannot do it with him. I mean our best plays don't involve him at all in the past 2 games.
 
Watching him play I keep wondering how he was able to score as many goals as he did. In that respect he reminds me a bit of Thomas Müller.

I would like to see something like Martial-Sanchez-Rashford with Mata behind.
 
Never going to win anything if it only comes down to one player anyway. You know there's nothing in the rules that say only one player can score the goals. Rom has his limitations but 'in the way we play', there is only Kane arguably in world football that could offer more. I think playing with a target man is outdated as it's too reliant on the forward and suits prem type CB as it's easy to play against.
 
Never going to win anything if it only comes down to one player anyway. You know there's nothing in the rules that say only one player can score the goals. Rom has his limitations but 'in the way we play', there is only Kane arguably in world football that could offer more. I think playing with a target man is outdated as it's too reliant on the forward and suits prem type CB as it's easy to play against.
Even in this style of football he doesn't do the basics. He doesn't control the ball, he doesn't move off the ball, he's too static and always on the back foot, doesn't hold the ball up, doesn't turn up in the big games at all. If he can't hold the ball up then he won't be a top level striker anyway. The basic fundamentals can be seen regardless of whatever system you play. Right now he isn't even playing like a top 10 striker.
 
Never going to win anything if it only comes down to one player anyway. You know there's nothing in the rules that say only one player can score the goals. Rom has his limitations but 'in the way we play', there is only Kane arguably in world football that could offer more. I think playing with a target man is outdated as it's too reliant on the forward and suits prem type CB as it's easy to play against.

He will get exposed x10 more if we shifted to a fast passing one touch attack.
 
Even in this style of football he doesn't do the basics. He doesn't control the ball, he doesn't move off the ball, he's too static and always on the back foot, doesn't hold the ball up, doesn't turn up in the big games at all. If he can't hold the ball up then he won't be a top level striker anyway. The basic fundamentals can be seen regardless of whatever system you play. Right now he isn't even playing like a top 10 striker.

Let's not be daft, he's already a top striker and the facts not peoples opinion don't lie. I think he's only one of five strikers to score 100 goals in that many games since the prem started, and the rest played for top teams all their careers (bar Shearer). The turn up in big games is absolute nonsense cause he turned up on the biggest stage in football.

I'm not saying he's technically gifted cause he isn't but I'm saying the system of playing a target man on his own makes Rom look worse because he's not. Someone like Giroud is a great target man but he's not going to give you the return like Rom. Rom in the right system is guaranteed 25+ goals a season and the stats prove this...
 
Said it before we signed him.

Just good enough to get the goals, but never good enough to lead a great team. There’s not another top club in Europe that would take him.
 
He will get exposed x10 more if we shifted to a fast passing one touch attack.

Maybe. I don't get Utd managers since SAF anyway as we buy players and then don't play them to their strengths and then criticise them. Rom is a goal scorer that relies on the play being played into the box. We don't play wingers and we don't play with wing backs. When we do get into crossing positions, it's pretty shit anyway. If we played Martial, Rashford or Sanchez in this system, it would have the same outcome as it's not their game either.
 
Maybe. I don't get Utd managers since SAF anyway as we buy players and then don't play them to their strengths and then criticise them. Rom is a goal scorer that relies on the play being played into the box. We don't play wingers and we don't play with wing backs. When we do get into crossing positions, it's pretty shit anyway. If we played Martial, Rashford or Sanchez in this system, it would have the same outcome as it's not their game either.

I agree that his strength is crossing and headers while we lack into it, but that actually proves he's a limited striker if that's only way to get things from him. Strikers of other top teams around score from several angles and several situations.
 
Said it before we signed him.

Just good enough to get the goals, but never good enough to lead a great team. There’s not another top club in Europe that would take him.

So what would you prefer from your striker then, lead the team but not get the goals?
 
I wonder how many of you were arguing that we had a title winning team and needed no signings not so long ago :lol:

I think selling him would be very premature what he needs is competition and Rashford isn't it. Mandzukic would have been perfect its a shame that didn't come about.