Only reason Jose wanted RomEmile LuHeskey was because of his physique, he always likes big donkeys to be the number 9. We could have just played Martial there and spent that money on improving our defence. But sadly the people in charge of these decisions think its okay to just throw gigantic sums on rubbish while teams like Inter and Napoli get players like Škriniar and Koulibaily for 17m and 6m.
We will never win the league with Lukaku up front
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That's like saying a plumber is limited cause he can't lay bricks. Everyone has their own skillset. Which other strikers are these then in the prem that have scored consistently more goals than Rom with all his limitations?
You're only concentrating on goals. Top strikers score goal and contribute in the play around them. You can't have a striker that when he doesn't score he becomes completely useless on the pitch. Game has passed on this kind now.
We need a striker who contributes in the build up and linking with the rest while scoring.
Scored 20+ league goals once in his career so far, doesn't score much in the bigger games (games vs top 4 rivals), doesn't add much when he isn't scoring.
Doesn't sound like a striker we aspire to, doesn't sound like a striker that would fire you to a league title
Doesn't sound like a striker we aspire to, doesn't sound like a striker that would fire you to a league title
As long as we dont have defenders who are able to play their way out of Any resemblance of pressure, I think we need to stick with a target man. If we dont have a long ball options to hoof the ball to when our defense is unable to pass the ball more than 5m, I believe that we would struggle a whole lot more.
the biggest stage in football is the CL not the WC .And in Lukaku's case he only scored against the weak opposition. He's not a good footballer that's the problem. Martial is a better targetman than Lukaku. That doesn't mean it's his best position but he applies himself a lot better than Lukaku would at least holding the ball up and bringing teammates into the game
He only scored 16 goals in the PL last season despite playing 90 minutes mostly in all the games and the team being set up to supply him. It's not that great. The likes of Vardy would get similar goals and wouldn't cost 75 million or whatever we payed. For that money you expect the finished product or nearly the finished product. Not a limited striker.
This is why the criticism of players on forums has become crazy as we criticise players for not being what we want them to be and not who they are. Rom's abilities are about scoring goals and that's how he should be judge. If you are looking for the type of player that you described, good luck with that cause so is everyone else. In modern football, I think Ronaldo and a 25 year old Rooney are the only strikers in the Prem that were that complete.
Read CL and not the WC, didn't bother reading anymore......
He's a reliable goal scoring number 9 in a team that struggles to score goals. Sure, he is a confidence player and has extremely hot and cold streaks of form but so did United's record goal scorer.
Of all of United's attacking options in the current squad, I would say he's the only one that has consistently been good enough.
Of all of United's attacking options in the current squad, I would say he's the only one that has consistently been good enough.
Oh come on!!!!!!
Someone mentioned berbatov earlier , he is similar to Berbatov in that he has become extremely lazy , we all knew berbatov didn’t like making an effort when the opponent had the ball but he made up for it when he did get the ball with his control , awareness and skill.
Lukaku is well aware that he’s never going to be dropped and I think over time he’s got worse. He stands up top doesn’t move and if you watch him when the opponents defence are playing it he doesn’t even try and put them under pressure. Yesterday on an counter Pogba gave it to Lukaku where it seemed to hit every part of his body before he lost it.
A portion of this has to fall on Jose as Lukaku doesn’t even get subbed let alone dropped.
I for one would like Sanchez or Martial through the middle for a few games , we would see a lot more movement that’s for sure.
Lukaku is well aware that he’s never going to be dropped and I think over time he’s got worse. He stands up top doesn’t move and if you watch him when the opponents defence are playing it he doesn’t even try and put them under pressure. Yesterday on an counter Pogba gave it to Lukaku where it seemed to hit every part of his body before he lost it.
A portion of this has to fall on Jose as Lukaku doesn’t even get subbed let alone dropped.
I for one would like Sanchez or Martial through the middle for a few games , we would see a lot more movement that’s for sure.
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Who else then based on his description?
That's such a load of nonsense
Based on science or opinion?
Who is the top scorer in the WC history? And who is the top scorer in CL history?
The CL is higher level competition. Teams like Panama and Tunisia the ones Romelu scored against would be equivalent of League 2.
An easy one is Henry VERY EASY.
@Litch
Anyway Lukaku is a good striker, he scores goals.
He doesn't score in the bigger games at any level of consistency, he isn't extremely prolific (in fact he is quite streaky), and he doesn't link up play very well or add much to the game when he isn't scoring. I'm not sure he can be classed as a top top striker but he is a good one.
Doesn't strike me as someone who can fire a team to a title.
Anyway Lukaku is a good striker, he scores goals.
He doesn't score in the bigger games at any level of consistency, he isn't extremely prolific (in fact he is quite streaky), and he doesn't link up play very well or add much to the game when he isn't scoring. I'm not sure he can be classed as a top top striker but he is a good one.
Doesn't strike me as someone who can fire a team to a title.
Not enough headers....the guy did suggest Rom's heading ability wasn't enough and if your going to forensic about it.
Ask players what medal they would rather have....?
He’s talking about quality not prestige ffs how can you not get something simple as that?
Truth be told, I'd fancy Fellaini to get us out of hole much more than Lukaku. That's pretty damning of a teams main striker who plays basically every game.
I'm comparing the quality not what medal the players would have. We saw this WC you can win it with a striker that doesn't score a goal even. The CL you'll get found out if your striker doesn't score 8/9 goals minimum.
I guess it's about opinions and Its always harder to defend a player when they are playing poorly but that's just the nature of forum debate. Seen the same on here many times. I'm not sure what top or world class means anymore but I'm pretty sure when he was up for sale, we weren't the only ones judging whether he was good enough or not. Like I said, there we a good few on here that weren't happy we didn't sign Morata?
Someone who can control the ball consistently with their first touch and also get shots on target - on a frequent basis would be an improvement. Why do we have a scouting team at the club?
Did Lukaku even have a shot yesterday? I remember the heading chance he wasted.
I agree. We should have invested the Rom money elsewhere in the team. If Jose wasn't so stuck in his ways, he would have continued what LVG started with Rash and Martial instead of wasting money on someone who will never be good enough.
Agree. It's funny though cause I think in the history of the prem, probably only taking about maybe 4-5 players that you could describe as complete. My point wasn't about defending him cause he's limited but being realistic about what we are asking him to be.....especially in a Utd team that's not great anyway
I don't get why you would bring up Morata, there were also plenty on the forum who said they were both not good enough.
The problem overall this season for him is how many 1 on 1 chances hes missed. Like almost game changing levels. Against Spurs and Brighton it would put us up. Against Wolves it would give us a 2 nil lead.
Yesterday, his work for the goal where him and Pogba held up the ball under pressure and turned it into an attack was fantastic. but we dont see enough of that. Given hes bulked up, people should be bouncing off him and he should be holding the ball better to ease pressure of attack. Especially when we were 2-1 up with minutes to go. We really need the ball going to him allowing us to push into their half but it just didnt happen.
Yesterday, his work for the goal where him and Pogba held up the ball under pressure and turned it into an attack was fantastic. but we dont see enough of that. Given hes bulked up, people should be bouncing off him and he should be holding the ball better to ease pressure of attack. Especially when we were 2-1 up with minutes to go. We really need the ball going to him allowing us to push into their half but it just didnt happen.
Nope there are more. I'm just naming a few easy ones to show your comment was VERY wide off the mark.
We have Martial who can do that.. why don't we give him a run in Lukaku's position?
Has he ever been subbed off in his United career?
@Rajma
forget about it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you will find the majority of us back Lukaku and I'll always want him to do well when he plays because it means the team is doing well. After all he isn't picking himself. It's the manager that doesn't see Lukaku's limitations.
forget about it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you will find the majority of us back Lukaku and I'll always want him to do well when he plays because it means the team is doing well. After all he isn't picking himself. It's the manager that doesn't see Lukaku's limitations.
He lacks composure - always has and always will. Composure is what separates the merely good from the very good or excellent. You need that quality to succeed in any sport.
play him as a right winger. That’s where he is best in my opinion.
Because there were plenty that said he was. People are great at marking their own homework and like with Pogs at the moment playing well have amnesia about the stuff they said wrong. The forum members have that luxury as hindsight is an exact science
Who....?
Whats right or wrong got to do with it.
The thread is about whether Lukaku is good enough for a side trying to win a title.