Can you go into more detail on this bit ?
The EU hasn't stopped the tories from pushing more austerity, what has stop them pushing more is the public now negative view of it.
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The EU hasn't stopped the tories from pushing more austerity, what has stop them pushing more is the public now negative view of it.
It gives them the perfect excuse. If the economy tanks after Brexit they can claim they have no choice but to increase austerity, and divert blame by saying it was the public’s decision to leave. Enough people think about the national economy like they do their household budget, so the government will almost certainly get away with it.
I agree that lots of people think that way in regards to the economy but didn't the Tories try this argument in the last election ? One of the reasons why the Tories ended up just talking about Brexit was because it was the only thing in their campaign that hadn't been completely dismissed by the public.
"Brexit must happen"
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That's pretty much been the level of mainstream political debate on Brexit over the last 2 years. It isn't really a wonder why so many people have been convinced that having our cake and eating it is a viable plan. Especially when combined with attacks on anyone who disagrees as either 'traitors', 'enemies of the people', or worse e.g: 'Blairites' in an exercise that has seen the Corbyn left join hands with the Tory right in ensuring nobody opposes Tory Brexit without reprisals and threats.
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That's pretty much been the level of mainstream political debate on Brexit over the last 2 years. It isn't really a wonder why so many people have been convinced that having our cake and eating it is a viable plan. Especially when combined with attacks on anyone who disagrees as either 'traitors', 'enemies of the people', or worse e.g: 'Blairites' in an exercise that has seen the Corbyn left join hands with the Tory right in ensuring nobody opposes Tory Brexit without reprisals and threats.
I think hard brexit gives those cnuts perfect cover.
It gives them a argument for sure but it's also pretty much a argument that was rejected by a giant part of the voting public in the last election.
Davis, Boris, Rees-Mogg and co will view it as an opportunity to turn the UK into a tax haven with the argument being we need to significantly reduce taxes in order to keep businesses here who otherwise might consider leaving. Obviously they're extremes but if the economy starts tanking post-Brexit and jobs are scarce then any politician arguing we should increase taxes on them is going to have a hard time succeeding. Even if the Tories originally caused a lot of the problems in the first place.
Yeah I get what they will try but people talk about their ''plan'' as if it's a easy political message to get across, when 40% of voters just voted last year for a potential big state left wing government.
I'm not saying it can't happened but it's in no way a go to thing and certainly not a simple choice of second referendum/remaining or austerity.
I don’t think the public rejected their overall policies, I think May’s abysmal performance and the antics of various ministers tanked them. Along with craziness like the old people’s homes thing, which sounded at the time like manifesto suicide. Yet despite it all, they still won.
All kicking off at PMQs, SNP staging a walkout after Bercow threw out Ian Blackford for refusing to sit down.
Labour, notably, fecked off and were absent for that particular vote apparently. Not giving a feck about Scotland as per.
Westminster is such a cancer. Unfortunately don't see 45% shifting very much.
Something that rarely get's talked about on here
A quick reminder of just evil these feckers are.
And on the subject of Tories being knobs...
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What possible reason could he have to block that?
The people of Chrishchurch should hang their heads in shame for sending this cnut to parliament.
He said the reason he blocked it was it wasn't properly debated, which is a fair enough reason. Hardly anyone was there.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44496427
Strikes me as very tenuous, could hypothetically argue it wasn't debated intensely because it's a fairly obvious law to implement.
Yeah possibly, but I think it's just the principle of not debating any piece of legislation the MP doesn't like.
Britain is the worlds leading producer of medical cannabis.
Guess who will hold lisences to grow weed? People who donate to the tories
The drug ministers husband, more specifically, has said licence. Just to really, really take the piss.
This country is corrupt.
Morally bankrupt.
Even the scratch cards are bent.
He's baaaaack.
It's a shit show. It's just a bunch of rich wankers making their friends richer and fecking the idiotic poor who keep voting for them.
I don't blame other rich people voting in Tory given they know it's in their own interests. What gets me is when the middle and lower classes vote for them. It's like knee capping yourself.
Answer the bloody question!
That 'interview' was a fitting end to one of the most pathetic weeks I've ever witnessed by the BBC.
I'm not one for BBC bashing but they've taken the piss in recent weeks.