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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
And whose idea was it to sell off social housing in the first place?
He was incredible I thought.
https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1732889287635460318?t=4C4QaFq1lWD_sVi4kAiMfQ&s=19
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67656220
So they are able to find £240 million to give to Rwanda. For what exactly. The report says that the government have only divulged the following repeated requests.
Would be easier to give those who want to come here £10,000 not to.
So they are able to find £240 million to give to Rwanda. For what exactly. The report says that the government have only divulged the following repeated requests.
Would be easier to give those who want to come here £10,000 not to.
Its advertising. We give them some money for advertising how mean we are and they pay money to arsenal to bring in tourist jobs to give jobs to the migrants. Kinda like how our military hardware companies work alongside international funding
£240m...so far. For zero deportations. So just to be clear that's £240m + all the wasted civil service and parliamentary time + the lawyers' fees and wasted court time for zero deportations. Which works out at £infinity per deportation. Thus directly proportional to the pointlessness and distastefulness of the plans.
I'm really pleased the Tories are in power now so they can deal with the problem of uncontrolled immigration which other governments have ignored for the past 13 years.
It is better value than those COVID contracts at least.
Oh yes and another £50 million has been promised by our new Home Secretary. Talk about being stitched up by Rwanda.
With the distinct possibility that it will all be for nothing.
What uncontrolled immigration?
Since Brexit the UK Government has had full control of legal immigration, as for illegal immigration they have a degree of control over that as well, they could provide the necessary resources to prevent much of it and actually process and deport the ones that don't have a right to entry
Who are the two Tory gains? Nadine Dorries constituency I imagine and?
It'd have been so nice if this scale of Tory losses led to the Greens making it a 3 party system.
Given it's getting worse not better for them, all bets are off. You'd usually wait to try and salvage seats/do some governing, but not sure either can happen. I don't know if there's a capacity for more regicide, and it's hard to see Sunak lasting long now. Polls getting worse not better for them. Delay 12 months and even less might have jobs.
Not sure. Doesn't seem to say. Poll seems quite suspect as SNP as low as 16 seems unlikely. https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html seems a bit more likely maybe.
If it's all for nothing that will be the best case scenario at this point. It will only increase the legal and administrative costs, reputational harm, levels of immorality and economic self harm should they actually manage to finally deport some poor fecker.
I'm surprised they went with that policy. I only submitted it so that my "public toilets on the moon" one wouldn't seem that stupid.
Imagine being in that 22% though and thinking "yes we need some more of this"
Nearly a quarter of those polled. I’d love to ask just what would be their red line beyond which they would not vote Conservative.
Clearly my sarcasm was misplaced.
Imagine being in that 22% though and thinking "yes we need some more of this"
Well 11% are voting for the Brexit party led by some failed actor according to that poll so...a third of the country are brain-dead?
If you look at the Telegraph comment sections, they're all raging about 'illegals', hate 'Soon-axed' and are deadset on voting reform to get some 'real conservatives in'.Imagine being in that 22% though and thinking "yes we need some more of this"
At least, yeah.
Imagine being in that 22% though and thinking "yes we need some more of this"
I spoke with some family members who are staunchly conservative. I did not delve too deep into their reasons because I am close with them and did not want to end up in an argument, but basically it's an amalgamation of them (A) Viewing "woke" as one of the most pressing issues and the Tories being the only ones willing to "stand up to it" (B) Viewing "migrants" and "the boats" as the biggest issue facing the country right now (C) Believing that labor are far worse than the conservatives on any issue.
I strongly suspect that C is just a bit of a cover up, and they've just tunnel visioned themselves into viewing A and B as the most important issues and the only ones worth voting on.
Because there's nothing obviously wrong with their lives and yet they've still got a nagging sense that all is not quite as it should be and somehow they're getting screwed. Which they are because they keep voting for knobheads.
Imagine being in that 22% though and thinking "yes we need some more of this"
If that does happen and I would be surprised if the Labour majority was quite as big as that, it would be no more than what the Tories deserve after completely thrashing the UK. The country is pretty much as broken as I can ever remember. But it is not going to be that easy for Labour to turn it round because of the awful mess.
It's nigh impossible on this forum to know when it's sarcasm or not!
Feels a bit April 1st, but the Mail claims there's a plan to oust Sunak and bring back Johnson. Could involve installing Patel as caretaker PM while he seeks a safe seat for re-election.
Outside bet talk of Farage pact, but hopefully just the DM talking bollocks as usual, although the advent calendar of shit was vaguely amusing.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...n-return-Prime-Minister-astonishing-plan.html
Outside bet talk of Farage pact, but hopefully just the DM talking bollocks as usual, although the advent calendar of shit was vaguely amusing.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...n-return-Prime-Minister-astonishing-plan.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67661494
This is what any competent government should be addressing.
The massive divide in the UK between the so called haves and have-nots.
And the gap is growing rapidly to those of the Victorian times when we used to send little boys up chimneys to clean them and poor people were sent to workhouses.
Something to be proud of.
This is what any competent government should be addressing.
The massive divide in the UK between the so called haves and have-nots.
And the gap is growing rapidly to those of the Victorian times when we used to send little boys up chimneys to clean them and poor people were sent to workhouses.
Something to be proud of.
They are absolutely addressing it though. Why do you think it’s accelerated over the last 13 years?
Was watching some of James O'brien's latest coverage of the Rwanda stuff. Has labour been pushing the idea that all the money for Rwanda could've gone into immigration staff hiring to process claims? It seems like the entire coverage is about how awful the waste and stupidity of the policy is, but is any alternate viewpoint getting a run in the media?
They are addressing it, just not in the way that most people would want.
Well well well....
Michelle Mone: Conservative peer breaks silence over PPE Covid contracts scandal
"Lady Mone has been accused of profiting from the firm winning contracts to supply surgical gowns and masks, worth £200m, after she recommended it to ministers in the early days of the pandemic. Her husband was the chairman and leader of the consortium.
Asked if she had benefited in any way from PPE Medpro money, either directly or indirectly, Lady Mone said: "Look, my husband's an entrepreneur. There were many entrepreneurs involved in PPE, supplying PPE.
"What my husband decides to do after the event, and who benefits from that, is at his discretion. I am his wife and I may indirectly benefit, but that's just like all other families around that are married. That's just it. That is not my money. I don't have that money. It's not my money.""
Nothing dodgy there at all I'd say.
Michelle Mone: Conservative peer breaks silence over PPE Covid contracts scandal
"Lady Mone has been accused of profiting from the firm winning contracts to supply surgical gowns and masks, worth £200m, after she recommended it to ministers in the early days of the pandemic. Her husband was the chairman and leader of the consortium.
Asked if she had benefited in any way from PPE Medpro money, either directly or indirectly, Lady Mone said: "Look, my husband's an entrepreneur. There were many entrepreneurs involved in PPE, supplying PPE.
"What my husband decides to do after the event, and who benefits from that, is at his discretion. I am his wife and I may indirectly benefit, but that's just like all other families around that are married. That's just it. That is not my money. I don't have that money. It's not my money.""
Nothing dodgy there at all I'd say.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67674683
Oh well that is ok then. She has said that she regrets not being transparent about her links with her PPE firm.
Nothing more needs to be said then.
Oh well that is ok then. She has said that she regrets not being transparent about her links with her PPE firm.
Nothing more needs to be said then.
I like how she says she regrets not being transparent, when what she actually did was lie and say she had no ties to the firm.
Yes exactly. It was nothing to do with transparency.
It was a downright lie. One of many by the Tories.
And anyway, not knowing a law doesnt exempt you from the penalti to break it
Also, i always like the expression "i am sorry [insert whatever had been done]". No, she is sorry she got caught
What are the odds of her of being punsihes
Also, i always like the expression "i am sorry [insert whatever had been done]". No, she is sorry she got caught
What are the odds of her of being punsihes
And this is what happens when you have 'entrepreneurs' procuring NHS supplies...
PPE bought via ‘VIP lane’ was on average 80% more expensive, documents reveal
Good Law Project finds items were priced up to four times higher by companies referred through scheme by UK ministers
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ge-80-percent-more-expensive-documents-reveal
PPE bought via ‘VIP lane’ was on average 80% more expensive, documents reveal
Good Law Project finds items were priced up to four times higher by companies referred through scheme by UK ministers
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ge-80-percent-more-expensive-documents-reveal