Indeed, but Forbes is at least equally terrifying.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
So he was about to get snaked from the left?
It's interesting because much of the talk online is about him pushing too far left and losing the electorate
It's just a train wreck all round. Their record in this government is all 'culture war left' with the gender bill, which they purposefully designed so it would be blocked by Westminster, and hate crime bill, which obviously achieved nothing but bad headlines.
Meanwhile they scrapped the 75% carbon emissions cut by 2030 target, which pissed off the Greens. And did possibly an even bigger number on the NHS than the Tories in England.
So they pissed off the electorate, their power sharing partners, and themselves.
Debatable who has blown the better/stronger position - the majority Cons under Boris or the SNP.
The SNP might just take it though; they seem to have gone completely away from their whole raison d'etre in Independence, got heavily mired in the culture war, sleeze allegations to rival any Tory nonsense, got in bed with the Greens and pissed off a lot of the electorate involved in things such as Oil and Gas, then they pissed off the Greens by veering away from their net zero policies. Now they have the hate crime bill, which in reality is unmanageable. They have also got a very poor record in terms of education, health and the whole drugs/alcohol/addiction issue. They were untouchable a couple of years ago with Sturgeon in her pomp, now they must be under severe threat of only being able to form a very weak minority.
What is it with the current crop of "leaders" in the UK; all either useless, liars or massive hypocrites.
The SNP might just take it though; they seem to have gone completely away from their whole raison d'etre in Independence, got heavily mired in the culture war, sleeze allegations to rival any Tory nonsense, got in bed with the Greens and pissed off a lot of the electorate involved in things such as Oil and Gas, then they pissed off the Greens by veering away from their net zero policies. Now they have the hate crime bill, which in reality is unmanageable. They have also got a very poor record in terms of education, health and the whole drugs/alcohol/addiction issue. They were untouchable a couple of years ago with Sturgeon in her pomp, now they must be under severe threat of only being able to form a very weak minority.
What is it with the current crop of "leaders" in the UK; all either useless, liars or massive hypocrites.
Just call the fecking election.
It's deplorable that the general election isn't this week to be honest.
He is just a terf right ? His views trans women as a inherent threat to others. Pretty fecked up.
It's not even that though, it's just the fact the general public are transphobic, after being whipped up by the press into thinking they're all penis-wielding potential rapists, so he's just rolling with it. Spineless, empty vessel who's petrified of the press, rather than an active terf most likely.
Possibly. Tbh the difference between a right wing terf and a spineless empty vessel is small Imo.
Yeah neither is a selling point, particularly when there's a generational opportunity to crush the Tories that is going to be wasted.Oh definitely it’s going to be a huge waste. It will be a 1945 style landslide resulting in a David Cameron austerity package.
If you have had to use the NHS over the last couple of years you will see that the status quo isn't sustainable.
Last time I used the NHS was in 2011 and the status quo wasn't sustainable then never mind now!
But then you'll get people coming in here saying you're a dickhead if you don't vote Labour to oust the Tories after yet another shite thing Starmer does.
Those people are completely lost in their spiral of confusion. Labour are not Tories. So they're better. But they're acting exactly like the Tories. But they're not actually Tories so they're still better. Do you want the Tories to stay in power? And so on.
It's a mental block with them.
Those people are completely lost in their spiral of confusion. Labour are not Tories. So they're better. But they're acting exactly like the Tories. But they're not actually Tories so they're still better. Do you want the Tories to stay in power? And so on.
It's a mental block with them.
To compound that they remove any agency or fault from Labours leadership. Every action is excused as required to be elected, yet they don't follow that logic through to anyone but the right.
Quite simply If Labour fail to win someone's vote it is on Labour and no one else. They have the capacity to appeal to those voters they're losing, if they don't it's there choice. The only choice being between a centre right Labour and the Tories is a lie.
At this stage my main concern is Labour is going to become a Cameron style government and it'll be a reform opposition. If that happens the next election will be even worse and it'll be directly because of Labours shift right.
Obviously it's a bigger deal in the UK than in America because the manifesto has a constitutional role but moving to the centre ahead of a general election should be seen in a similar light
You literally called me a Tory when I was criticising Starmer on here a couple of years agoThose people are completely lost in their spiral of confusion. Labour are not Tories. So they're better. But they're acting exactly like the Tories. But they're not actually Tories so they're still better. Do you want the Tories to stay in power? And so on.
It's a mental block with them.
You were one of those people until Starmer made his views on Gaza clear
God forbid that Labour would make changes to a plan after consultation with the organisations most affected.
You literally called me a Tory when I was criticising Starmer on here a couple of years ago
You were one of those people until Starmer made his views on Gaza clear
You were the one fortune teller I should have listened to. Are arsenal going to win the league (money could ride on it
)?At least you see him for what he really is now
You were the one fortune teller I should have listened to. Are arsenal going to win the league (money could ride on it
Unfortunately not, you were right about it being a one horse race when we dropped points
People are not confused, it's just a needs must to get the Tories out that some can stomach, others can't, but you know this.Those people are completely lost in their spiral of confusion. Labour are not Tories. So they're better. But they're acting exactly like the Tories. But they're not actually Tories so they're still better. Do you want the Tories to stay in power? And so on.
It's a mental block with them.
I sure as hell understand the desire to maximise the Tory defeat but also think Starmer is atrocious and have zero enthusiasm for this incarnation of Labour. Pretty sure Labour would at least be less callous than this Tory government, but still not decided whether I'll actually vote or not, much as it pains me. Never done a postal vote before and presumably I'll have to do it early, so feels like I'm lining up lame excuses in my head already.
In simple terms it's the UK version of Biden vs Trump, no one really wants either but those are the choices, the lesser of 2 evils essentially
I'd probably say it's like Clinton v Trump
Tonnes of people were saying that they were voting for another candidate after feeling like the left had been screwed and Clinton was centre right etc.
Closer to Bush-Kerry imo.
Been a moron and forgot to register so can't vote. I thought I'd still be registered to an old address I use to live at back in 2021 but nope been taken off.
Fuming.
Fuming.
If you'd have voted Labour, a Tory MP might have reported you to the police. Near miss there
People in this thread were celebrating his win.
If someone moved to that address and registered, they would have been sent a letter stating who lives there and they would have said you don't then you would have been removed after checking second source e.g Council Tax. Make sure to register at new address now so ready for General Election. It only takes 2 mins and can do all online. I always vote by postal vote, a lot easier.
He is absolutely mental!
Even his argument that the human race would die out doesn't stack up as lots of gay women have fertility treatment if they want to have kids! moron!
Minister ‘sorry’ as veterans find ID card not valid for English elections
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-find-id-card-not-valid-for-english-elections
The veterans minister has apologised to former military personnel who have been prevented from using their veterans ID in order to vote in the local elections in England on Thursday.
Downing Street said it would “look into” changing the controversial new rules, which require photo ID in order to vote, to allow veterans’ ID cards on to the list of valid identification.
The minister, Johnny Mercer, was responding to a complaint from a veteran who said he had been turned away at a polling station. “I am sorry about this. The legislation on acceptable forms of ID came out before the veterans ID cards started coming out in January this year. I will do all I can to change it before the next one,” Mercer tweeted.
No 10 said it would be consulting on making the change. “This ID card was introduced very, very recently,” Rishi Sunak’s spokesman said.
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Tory shock as voter suppression measure suppresses the wrong voters.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-find-id-card-not-valid-for-english-elections
The veterans minister has apologised to former military personnel who have been prevented from using their veterans ID in order to vote in the local elections in England on Thursday.
Downing Street said it would “look into” changing the controversial new rules, which require photo ID in order to vote, to allow veterans’ ID cards on to the list of valid identification.
The minister, Johnny Mercer, was responding to a complaint from a veteran who said he had been turned away at a polling station. “I am sorry about this. The legislation on acceptable forms of ID came out before the veterans ID cards started coming out in January this year. I will do all I can to change it before the next one,” Mercer tweeted.
No 10 said it would be consulting on making the change. “This ID card was introduced very, very recently,” Rishi Sunak’s spokesman said.
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Tory shock as voter suppression measure suppresses the wrong voters.
It was above my old pub which never reopened post pandemic. The company didn't end up selling and went into liquidation at the building is just sat there doing feck all right now.
Ah the Council would have sent letters to that address each year asking who lives there and if you don't respond and they check with another source e.g Council Tax then they remove you.