he will probably lose 5-10 pounds before the start of the season, still going to be a bit chubby but at least he is back to his old shape.
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How do you come to the conclusion that he is overweight without a doubt?
United staff have told you he's overweight or something?
Even last season people kept on saying he needed to lose weight but, after one game where he exchanged shirts, there was little evidence he was carrying any fat that was noticeable.
Call him big boned or whatever but, on the field regardless of people convincing themselves he's overweight, it doesn't seem to affect his mobility or acceleration.
Stamina is unrelated to weight, he could be cut as Nani but, that won't mean he can run around longer. In a pre-season game he didn't seem out of breath at the 70th minute mark when he'd been one of most active players, so can't even say well he's started off out of shape. If there were any problems when he joined up from his vacation time - there seems to be reports of SAF saying that's been taken care of anyway.
Don't see why he needs to shed any weight.
Looking at those photos he definitely needs to lose a few pounds. That will happen over the next few weeks though.
I am 100% sure the club won't let him turn fat.
I mean he has a different body structure or type.
Do you think Fergie would let a over-weight player stay at United if it affected his play?
I mean he has a different body structure or type.
Do you think Fergie would let a over-weight player stay at United if it affected his play?
and against better teams
Losing weight doesn't necessarily equal losing fat.For instance if a player has an excess of muscles, it'd be better for him to lose some them.At the end of the day it depends on how comfortable the player is and how his performances are ?
Apart from questioning whether or not he is actually overweight - You've more or less agreed with me in that a weight issue isn't a problem unless it affects his game in some way.
Chunky players can be fantastic players - I just think that any players carrying a few extra pounds are more likely to benefit from getting themselves a bit trimmer.
I would be prepared to bet his BMI is less than Rooney's.
pissing myself laughing at this.
I doubt that. Rooney doesn't look in any way overweight and his fitness levels are generally brilliant.
The pictures look as if he's a bit chubby! Definitely needs to lose a few pounds, maybe more!
Espn says Anderson weight's is 69 kg... Rooney's 79.4.
Rooney's BMI is 24.9, Anderson's would be 22.3.
But does someone believe (1.76m) Anderson is only 69 kg?
Rooney's BMI is 24.9, Anderson's would be 22.3.
But does someone believe (1.76m) Anderson is only 69 kg?
While I agree with you mostly, it's not strickly true. Your weight can affect your balance and core strength, look at Maradona, most of his strength came from the fact he was a fat little git and if he'd lost that he'd have been much easier to knock off the ball.
Very true - Maradonna to name just one.
I said 'most likely' and was thinking of players who were a bit chunkier than they might normally be.
Nothing wrong with the second one. First one looks a bit dodgy, mind, but won't make any judgements until I see him with my shirt off again. Gay.
It's noticeable that Rooney's carrying a lot less timber this pre-season than he has in previous years. His touch also looked better than it usually does in games like these.
I reckon he's got a point to prove and will hit the ground running this season. All very encouraging.
How long were they on holidays? 6-8 weeks? Doubt a person can go from premier league fitness really overweight in that amount of time. His frame reminds me of Richard Dunne though. The intense workouts the fitness coaches do, he'll be in ship shape come august no problem.
You're right there after last season's start. Injured/Unhappy/Front of tabloids. This season, fully fit, happy, and hasn't done anything stupid in his personal life. Could be an explosive season from him.
Anderson has always looked like that, lay off him, he is naturally broad and toned, but it doesn't stop him running round like a headless chicken in games.
Losing weight is not the issue for Anderson, it's cutting some of that fat that he clearly has around his gut.
But if he cuts the fat then he will weigh less.
Not necessarily. Could be building muscle and cutting fat simultaneously and as a result GAINING weight. Muscle weighs more than fat.
He needs to lose bodyfat, not weight. 69kg's is not heavy.
I am well aware that muscle weighs more than fat, but in my opinion, he is stocky enough, any stockier and he will not be mobile enough.
I think he is fine the way he is, seems fully fit, he is slim, he didn't look tired at all in the last match
I think he is fine the way he is, seems fully fit, he is slim, he didn't look tired at all in the last match
In an endurance sport like football gaining any more muscle could be detrimental. The more muscle he carries, the greater the strain on his heart/lungs to get oxygenated blood to it. Anderson's plenty strong enough, putting on any more muscle would be counter-productive.
He does seem to be carrying a bit of excess fat but it's impossible to know how detrimental that is to his performance. Losing a couple of kgs would probably be beneficial, mind you, if only because of the extra weight he has to carry round with him on the pitch. Would make no sense at all to cut fat and gain muscle, if this means he actually ends up heavier.
He does seem to be carrying a bit of excess fat but it's impossible to know how detrimental that is to his performance. Losing a couple of kgs would probably be beneficial, mind you, if only because of the extra weight he has to carry round with him on the pitch. Would make no sense at all to cut fat and gain muscle, if this means he actually ends up heavier.
He's not really fat is he though? I thought that was just a joke we had on the Caf.
Not compared to the average Joe he's not. But he's a professional footballer that's life should revolve around a strict diet and intense physical exercise.
For a footballer playing at the very top level he does look a little chunky around the midriff.
He's gonna be fecking huge when he retires.
Again I ask - where does this he is carrying excess fat around his gut come from? People said he was fat last year and when he took his shirt off - there wasn't any signs of it. Is it from these few pictures that people are jumping to that conclusion?
Can't we at least wait and see how he does over the next few games before we start saying well he could do with losing some weight?
Can't we at least wait and see how he does over the next few games before we start saying well he could do with losing some weight?
Doesnt matter how fat he is, hes still very fast and his work rate was fantastic for a good hour or so
He's not overweight he's just got a fat face.
You're right, we'll just sub him off for the last 30 minutes in every game.
Oh wait, we already do that.
This was our first game back. His stamina and conditioning will only get better from here.
He's just naturally larger than some other players. Doesn't mean he's fat though. Whenever I've seen pictures without a shirt etc I never once thought he was overweight or chunky.
As long as he gets about the pitch fine, which he does then I don't see a problem. More so, I don't think SAF and/or the training staff would allow him to be carrying any unnecessary weight whatsoever.
Wasn't really the case last season. In the game just gone by - he was hardly knackered when he came off the pitch even though seemingly our most active player on the pitch.
J'accuse Anderson!
I'm a HUGE FAN of Anderson.
However, at the moment I'm ABSOLUTELY LIVID with him.
It was clear with Scholes retirement that we were going to need to bring a midfielder in - no matter Anderson's credentials.
It was also clear that this was a HUGE season for Anderson! And that he was going to be likely fighting for his position in the team with whoever we brought in!
Anderson has rarely had a pre-season when he's been at the club - a succession of injuries and the Copa-America robbing him of these pre-seasons which meant that he was rarely fit when the season began and he always found himself catching up with his fitness.
Last season he attested to just this in an interview.
It is with astonishment that I see he turned up to pre-season looking like Neville Southall!
Not only does this play havoc with his knees which are dodgy anyway, but it also tells me that he hasn't exactly set his mind to establishing that position as his own. He hasn't said 'this position is going to be mine and I'm going to do everrything possible to make sure it's mine!'
Think of the best midfielder's in the world: Fabregas, Keane, Zidane, Sneijder, Iniesta, Xavi. It is inconceivable that these guys would turn up at pre-season so overweight that they cannot train - much less stake their claim for a place vacated by someone who had the position you regard as yours.
So instead of setting out his intent - he's fighting to get the weight off and risking another injury at the same time. By the looks of it the weight actually means his whole body is out of alignment which risks further knee injuries.
I really can't tell you how fuming I am at him. If this is what SAF is coping with it shows me that SAF really wants 2 central midfielders. At least 1 by the end of this transfer window - and perhaps another to follow in January.
In the meantime all respect I had for this guy has gone!
I'm a HUGE FAN of Anderson.
However, at the moment I'm ABSOLUTELY LIVID with him.
It was clear with Scholes retirement that we were going to need to bring a midfielder in - no matter Anderson's credentials.
It was also clear that this was a HUGE season for Anderson! And that he was going to be likely fighting for his position in the team with whoever we brought in!
Anderson has rarely had a pre-season when he's been at the club - a succession of injuries and the Copa-America robbing him of these pre-seasons which meant that he was rarely fit when the season began and he always found himself catching up with his fitness.
Last season he attested to just this in an interview.
It is with astonishment that I see he turned up to pre-season looking like Neville Southall!
Not only does this play havoc with his knees which are dodgy anyway, but it also tells me that he hasn't exactly set his mind to establishing that position as his own. He hasn't said 'this position is going to be mine and I'm going to do everrything possible to make sure it's mine!'
Think of the best midfielder's in the world: Fabregas, Keane, Zidane, Sneijder, Iniesta, Xavi. It is inconceivable that these guys would turn up at pre-season so overweight that they cannot train - much less stake their claim for a place vacated by someone who had the position you regard as yours.
So instead of setting out his intent - he's fighting to get the weight off and risking another injury at the same time. By the looks of it the weight actually means his whole body is out of alignment which risks further knee injuries.
I really can't tell you how fuming I am at him. If this is what SAF is coping with it shows me that SAF really wants 2 central midfielders. At least 1 by the end of this transfer window - and perhaps another to follow in January.
In the meantime all respect I had for this guy has gone!
I think this is a HUGE over-reaction. Did you watch the game??? He was class and showed lots of drive, energy and stamina, he was probably the best player on the pitch and was playing with intent.
I know what your getting at with regard to this being a chance for him, maybe he has realized this, lets wait and see what happens this season before we make that call. Hopefully he gets a clean bill of health this year and we will see his improvements.
I would like to see more patience in his play and to sort out his positioning off the ball. He could be great if he matures in these areas and builds on his strenghts.
WTF he looks slimmer this pre season than he has done in any other. That's the way the lad is built.
Didn't watch the game at all. This isn't a reaction to the game. Just a reaction to him being overweight. He's potentially a class player - I know that - I said he is a fan! But - he's got to make a decision that says "I'm going to prove I'm the best central midfield player in the world" (and he can be) and make sure that the rest of his lifestyle supports that decision
I thought that myself. Rooney usually takes an age to find his sharpness so hopefully he'll start the season the way he ended last.
I agree he needs to take the chance which has presented itself to him and take on the responsibility that comes with it. Clean living, focus, drive, ambition and determination.
He had a good game the other day, he just needs the consistency in his play which comes with game time and age. I really hope he can achieve great things with us and grow into the player he hints at becoming.
He clearly has some problems with keeping a more strict diet.
"Build that way" doesn't mean he should just let himself go and eat whatever and as much as he wants/likes. It means he should be much more careful than the average footballer and that requires discipline and determination.
I hope he realises that sooner than later. Because the shape he keeps himself in isn't helping his development one bit.
"Build that way" doesn't mean he should just let himself go and eat whatever and as much as he wants/likes. It means he should be much more careful than the average footballer and that requires discipline and determination.
I hope he realises that sooner than later. Because the shape he keeps himself in isn't helping his development one bit.
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