UK Riots (with the exception of Manchester which has its own thread)

I know it gets spouted a lot by politicians who don't know anything, but it really is because young people living in estates don't have anything to aim towards. They may not have the perfect family life, and so spend time out on the streets. Many of these places don't have social clubs and the like to go to (and the ones that do are often worryingly understaffed or underfunded). So they're left to entertain themselves on the streets. Many of them don't care about school enough as a result of this, and they haven't seen or been given enough faith/respect by the older community for them to respect them back. This all adds up to hotspots on anti-social behaviour in these places, and a massive resentment of the police, only authority figures in fact. So when they have chances like this, to strike back, they do.

They need places to get off the streets, first and foremost. And then you can start showing them the means to be proactive about their future, give them something to aim towards in their lives.
 
Sky news are walking down the high street showing you all the shops that the 'protesters' have trashed

Ladbrokes, boots, t mobile, jd sports, a pawn shop

Amazingly though the mcdonalds is untouched, obviously still want to eat for the next couple of days, that must be where their coordinating the attacks from
 
Mozza said:
I think the gimp doing an extraordinary job, pretty good at painting a picture of what happening tonight
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He's doing a fecking awful job of speaking to this poor guy, regardless of the rest of the coverage, which is all I was talking about.
 
gambit28 said:
Nope. In fact the whole lack of the police action is really, really bizarre.
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According to CBS news they're biding their time, most of the rioters have very strict parents and are expected to be home by midnight.
 
R_Nick said:
"What happens to your staff now?"

for feck sake, this is a few hours old, what the feck does he think this guy's been doing, analysing his business position and contacting his insurance company?
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He's being a dick, he's basically ramming it down his throat that his business has gone.

Oh yeah, it's on fire isn't it... up in flames... been around a while hadn't it? Yeah quite a few years... what happens to you staff? You had staff didn't you?

Well they won't be in work tomorrow, captain obvious.
 
Urbanned said:
I know it gets spouted a lot by politicians who don't know anything, but it really is because young people living in estates don't have anything to aim towards. They may not have the perfect family life, and so spend time out on the streets. Many of these places don't have social clubs and the like to go to (and the ones that do are often worryingly understaffed or underfunded). So they're left to entertain themselves on the streets. Many of them don't care about school enough as a result of this, and they haven't seen or been given enough faith/respect by the older community for them to respect them back. This all adds up to hotspots on anti-social behaviour in these places, and a massive resentment of the police, only authority figures in fact. So when they have chances like this, to strike back, they do.

They need places to get off the streets, first and foremost. And then you can start showing them the means to be proactive about their future, give them something to aim towards in their lives.
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Everything true but just adding a youth club doesn't solve anything. They have no self respect, and no respect for anything else. The materialisticness and the hatred of everything they don't have won't be solved just by a having a youth club telling them to work hard.
 
He's standing outside the shop and it's started to rain - a pathetic fallacy, surely?
 
Watching all those pictures it's extremely lucky no-one has died from these riots. I hope to God the situation calms down very soon, the government's response has been a disgrace in my opinion.
 
There is only so much you can say isn't there. Agreed, I'll be amazed if no one has been killed.
 
ha_rooney said:
Watching all those pictures it's extremely lucky no-one has died from these riots. I hope to God the situation calms down very soon, the government's response has been a disgrace in my opinion.
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What do you expect them to do?
 
ha_rooney said:
Watching all those pictures it's extremely lucky no-one has died from these riots. I hope to God the situation calms down very soon, the government's response has been a disgrace in my opinion.
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Few gunshots reported apparently, I too am surprised that looters haven't turned on each other. Seems like they are in union together in causing havoc. Just doesn't make sense that the police aren't able to stop it.
 
rcoobc said:
Everything true but just adding a youth club doesn't solve anything. They have no self respect, and no respect for anything else. The materialisticness and the hatred of everything they don't have won't be solved just by a having a youth club telling them to work hard.
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It's an example. Things like youth clubs are mainly things for the youth of tomorrow. For the kids who are already 16/17 then you need to take a different, harder approach I feel.

But to stop this from happening in the future, you NEED to give the younger generation things to be proud of. Offer more activities in school, get them focused on their future etc.
 
20solskjaer said:
What do you expect them to do?
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I expected someone to take charge of the situation, they seem to have left it to the police and the police are out-numbered. Why they're waiting until tomorrow to hold a COBRA meeting is beyond me, have they no video-links? And also there must be a great reason for them not to have deployed the armed forces, these are acts of terror and when an entire city is gripped in fear you need to use all the resources you have to restore law and order.
 
Text from my cousin who lives in Camden;

fecked elvis :( everything's smashed to pieces, parts on fire at Chalk Farm. I'm terrified and they're making their way through Camden now.

cnuts, horrible cnuts.
 
I still don't understand why tge army hasn't been called in. Give everyone a curfew, anyone who isn't inside by a certain time gets arrested or shot
 
Eyepopper said:
And when your generation rioted in response to social issues, say like the miners, did they band together and attack what was seens as a common enemy with the greater good of the masses in mind (in truth seeing the position as one of defending themselves) or did they go out robbing tellies and shoes?
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There probably was a bit more altruism about, but that was before Thatcher showed us all that greed is good for everyone, the self is everything, and there's no such thing as society.

Tebbit left a lasting impression as well -there's loads of kids 'on their bikes' on the telly at this very moment.
 
Mihajlovic said:
No. You must understand that using such devices would most likely injure the protestors.
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Vidicious said:
How many of these incompetent fecks do you think actually know what they are rioting or "protesting" for anyway?
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They're not or protesting their looting plain and simple and the cops are just letting it happen and this is weird. The amount of cops they have and they're only a dozen here or there. WHen it started up earlier they could easily have taken the streets and I still reckon they could now, but they're doing feck all.
 
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