Meanwhile, RAWK is decrying the evident lack of intelligence shown by critics of Luis Suarez:
Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse
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To be fair, Johnson can and should support who he wants, when he wants, and shouldn't be goaded into not supporting someone (who may be a friend) just because he's mixed race.
However statements like this from Dalglish do make you wonder.
It implies a "we will not break ranks" siege mentality and anyone breaking ranks would look disastrous. However the point they all seem to be missing is that this isn't about Liverpool football club. This is about racist language being used, misundertood or not, on English football pitches and how to deal with that. The only people making this about Liverpool football club is Liverpool football club. Surprise fecking surprise.
However statements like this from Dalglish do make you wonder.
It implies a "we will not break ranks" siege mentality and anyone breaking ranks would look disastrous. However the point they all seem to be missing is that this isn't about Liverpool football club. This is about racist language being used, misundertood or not, on English football pitches and how to deal with that. The only people making this about Liverpool football club is Liverpool football club. Surprise fecking surprise.
As is Ian Wright...and the black Uruguayan National Football Coach who have both offered their support to Suarez and tut-tutted at Evra.
But don't worry 'you lot' have the wonderful FA, Durham and F365 on your side.
Add irony to the list of things the idiot scousers don't understand.
Alongside the alphabet, numbers and hard work (boom boom)
Alongside the alphabet, numbers and hard work (boom boom
)It's not a question of taking sides, he's admitted it.
As is Ian Wright...and the black Uruguayan National Football Coach who have both offered their support to Suarez and tut-tutted at Evra.
But don't worry 'you lot' have the wonderful FA, Durham and F365 on your side.
He did say it though. Which renders everything the apologists say complete bollocks.
You support a guy found guilty of racial abuse. How proud you must be.
Can you describe your reaction when you first saw this picture?As is Ian Wright...and the black Uruguayan National Football Coach who have both offered their support to Suarez and tut-tutted at Evra.
But don't worry 'you lot' have the wonderful FA, Durham and F365 on your side.
Sure Glen, sure.
Seems to be all about taking sides from last night's game (wearing of shirts) and support coming out of the woodwork. As well the Adrian Durham interviews, and F365 making their stance, etc.
I'm sensing a competition building up.
As is Ian Wright...and the black Uruguayan National Football Coach who have both offered their support to Suarez and tut-tutted at Evra.
But don't worry 'you lot' have the wonderful FA, Durham and F365 on your side.
Damn, do you have a picture of them hugging? Because that would seal it.
Yeah, battle of the brainless morons.
Meanwhile the rest of the country will just continue laughing at you lot!
He's admitted it and subsequently been found guilty.
LFC should just accept the punishment and get on with it.
Can you describe your reaction when you first saw this picture?
Here is the proof we have your child, now pay the random if you want to see him again.
In a way I wish they would. Suarez needs a long rest and this is a great excuse to get the owners coughing out more millions for a finishing striker. But there seems to be more to this and support for him from surprising corners which is worth a listen.
Well Wright is a brainless moron, everyone knows this, but I still quite like him, but he is again operating under the Liverpool FC promoted assertion that everyone is just going on Evra's word, despite Suarez admitting it.
If Suarez admitted it? Why the fudgedy feck are people still saying this? They're going on Suarez's word if anything? And also, why has the claim of "previously unfounded allegations" not been taken off Liverpool's website? Isn't that just blatant, flagrant, unfounded incitement?
Bonkers
Durham trying to wind Johnson up now 
Wrighty and some twat from Suarez' home country. Yeah, great support that!
Bit like your actual support, brainless idiots.
The club has borrowed the 'technique' of the supporters on message boards; in other words, wishful thinking: 'If you post it enough, it will become be true'.
I think United should put up a statement pointing out this as an example of Liverpool's previously unfounded allegations...But they wont. Because they don't have hysterical 14 year olds running their PR department.
Does all this support for his character matter one jot though? Let's all agree's a lovely, non-racist guy. After all, evra himself had supposedly said as much (though Evra lies, so maybe we shouldn't get into that muddle again).
Even accepting this, he's still been found guilty of saying something totally unacceptable, and duly punished. Apologize, move on, surely?
I don't think you're giving 14 year olds enough credit.
Also, just listened to the Paul McGrath interview. While I get and agree with some of his points, he sort of negated them all by saying how much he loved Big Ron..Which sort of makes him having a go a Johnson a moot point. If Paul loved Big Ron and knew he wasn't racist, then Johnson is surely entitled to know Suarez isn't either is he? Especially when Big Ron's gaff was unequivocably worse. Though I'm sure big lazy nigger is indeed a term of endearment in Birmingham.
Bit muddled that.
Bit muddled that.
Dumbcnut. Go feck yourself.
At last some serious intellectual analysis of the issues. Pretty much sums up my views, and much more eloquently than I could hope to do.
I think we all have to keep in mind this is the first real suspension of note for a prominent player charged with such an offense.
Pexbo's comment shows how out to lunch they (they being LFC players management and lawyers, and Suarez and his handlers are)... and how they missed an opportunity to show everyone that LFC is about fair play and sporting issues. We all get it, sometimes in the heat of battle, players say things they shouldn't... and no battle is hotter than us vs Liverpool. Even once it appeared that the tide was turning against Suarez, if the player had held up his hand and sincerely claimed that he had done this, and said something along the lines of "I didn't think I was being offensive, but I now know and understand that what I did was not acceptable"... I'm quite sure he would have been slapped with a smaller ban akin to Rooney's swearing to the TV cameras. Couple that with the club wearing some anti-racism shirts and some choice photo ops of Suarez doing some community service in black neighborhoods and LFC could have come away from this incident with a degree of respect.
Instead they chose to attack everyone and put the blame on everyone but themselves. And I don't mean turning their back on Suarez (in theory i see the point of standing up for the player, but not in the manner they did). Players have come back from off the pitch racist incidents (Woodgate for one). SteveJ hit the nail on the head with his comments... time to put an end to the "self pity city" moniker.
I notice that several prominent current and former Black players have come out and spoken out about the shirts LFC wore in warm up yesterday... good for them. Those voices need to be heard. I haven't gone through this rather large thread, but have there been any meaningful quotes from former / current black Liverpool players John Barnes, Paul Ince, Glen Johnson... ect?
And one last thing... Liverpool... you thing the FA is harsh on YOU and that we have them in our back pocket?!?
1. Cantona (the longest ban imposed for an on-field incident in FA history)
2. Ferdinand (6 month ban for the very same offense a City player... the team hardly matters TBF... had done several months prior and received no ban at all... who then passed a much more stringent drugs test later that same day, which he paid for himself) This one still pisses me off
3 Ronney (3 game ban for swearing in APRIL... while United were in the hunt for 3 trophies... 3 games for swearing, really?!?)
Yep, we really do have the FA on our side
Durham just called them victims
You have to wonder why Suarez did not take up the option 204Red mentioned (an apology; a 'cultural misunderstanding' explanation; some 'good works' to boost his public image). I've written previously that Suarez's public statements lack the righteous anger of those who are innocent of a perceived offence; his tone comes across as more apologetic than rightly furious - and who wouldn't be as outspoken as, say, John Terry has been, regardless of his guilt or innocence? Could it be that Suarez knows he's guilty, initially lied to Dalglish & co, and now realises that it's far too late to repair the damage?
Is there some place I can listen to this afterwards from abroad?
Can you imagine the fallout had Johnson refused to wear Suarez shirt?
It's probably the only thing that's gone right for Liverpool on this issue. The rest is all their own fault.
It's probably the only thing that's gone right for Liverpool on this issue. The rest is all their own fault.
204Red
8 month for Rio.
8 month for Rio.
Glen "Uncle Tom" Johnson had little or no choice over wearing that Suarez shirt to be fair.
How about Roy Keane getting a 5-match ban for that book...
Most likely. But just imagine if he'd refused:
1) He's the only Liverpool player without the t-shirt on, and happens to be the only black player, or;
2) He's dropped, and happens to be the only black player.
The media would go mental.
Anyway, this isn't helping the debate. But I just wonder what might have been going through Johnson's mind. He really didn't have a choice. I'm not saying he wanted one though, he's probably as stupid as the rest.
Yes you're right... i stand corrected.
Utd top of the league, with the best defensive record when he was banned as well.
Bit endemic really...
Didn't realise how dumb Dumpstar could be. He's trying to make an issue of racism into a bleeding pissing contest!