Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse

Liam147 said:
A good read. Nice to see our direct rivals on our side. I know it's not a competition about who's right, and something to take sides with (are you listening Uruguay?) but it's nice to know that our rival's manager completely agrees with our point of view. It shouldn't be like that at all should it? It should be 100% unanimous. Sad really.

I'm coming round to Mancini.
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You're coming round to Mancini? The same Mancini acting the cnut on Sky Sports News earlier at his press conference, blatantly lying by saying he saw Rooney wave an imaginary card to get Kompany sent off, when Rooney had in fact held two fingers up to indicate a two-footed tackle, this less than a week after this very same Mancini waved an imaginary card at the ref to have Skrtel sent off.

He's a fecking wanker, and a moany bollocks.
 
The Neviller said:
You're coming round to Mancini? The same Mancini acting the cnut on Sky Sports News earlier at his press conference, blatantly lying by saying he saw Rooney wave an imaginary card to get Kompany sent off, when Rooney had in fact held two fingers up to indicate a two-footed tackle, this less than a week after this very same Mancini waved an imaginary card at the ref to have Skrtel sent off.

He's a fecking wanker, and a moany bollocks.
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Did he actually say that though, or did he say he tried to get him sent off?

I'm not saying I like him, but for City's manager, he's not that bad.
 
Liam147 said:
Did he actually say that though, or did he say he tried to get him sent off?

I'm not saying I like him, but for City's manager, he's not that bad.
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He mimed what Rooney did by waving an imaginary card in the air, whilst saying he got him sent off. One of the reporters mentioned that apparently Rooney was indicating a two footed tackle. Mancini gave it the whole arrogant "I don't give a feck, I'm right" shrug of the shoulders. He's a smarmy, smartarsed prick. City manager or not, he's a right bellend.
 
The Neviller said:
You're coming round to Mancini? The same Mancini acting the cnut on Sky Sports News earlier at his press conference, blatantly lying by saying he saw Rooney wave an imaginary card to get Kompany sent off, when Rooney had in fact held two fingers up to indicate a two-footed tackle, this less than a week after this very same Mancini waved an imaginary card at the ref to have Skrtel sent off.

He's a fecking wanker, and a moany bollocks.
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C'mon, thats just inter club rivalry and heat of the moment managers talk. SAF does it all the time.

Some things are just MUCH bigger than football, even for those who depend on the footballing industry for their fame, self worth and livelihood. The SUAREZ racist jibes is one such matter.

And I applaud Mancini and all the other club managers who have come out and gone on record to state their views ... frankly their is only one objective view available, and thats what Mancini has done.

He could have stayed quiet on the matter, he did not. My respect for him goes up accordingly.
 
Mancini was asked whether Liverpool's manager, Kenny Dalglish, and players had made a mistake by wearing their now infamous T-shirts in support of Suárez, just after the Football Association's independent commission had announced its verdict. He was nodding in agreement as he replied "maybe" and he then voiced his belief that Suárez should have issued an immediate apology.

"Sometimes a situation like this can happen on the pitch but it is important to apologise for what you did. Sometimes, on the pitch, you can do something you don't want to, because you are nervous, because you don't think. Everything can happen because you don't think, because you are tired, because you are stupid, you are young; for many reasons.

"I don't think Suárez is a racist. But I think he made a mistake, probably, yes. Everyone can make a mistake sometimes. It is impossible that we are always perfect and, after that, it is important to say: 'I am sorry, I made a mistake, I apologise for this' and accept the charge."

The City manager went on to draw a parallel with his own playing career in Italy, where football has had a long battle against racism. "I have heard everything said against me and I have said some things – but not important things like racist words."
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Very reasonable, considered and mature words from Mancini. His whole handling of the Tevez affair shows he is a class act.
 
The Neviller said:
He mimed what Rooney did by waving an imaginary card in the air, whilst saying he got him sent off. One of the reporters mentioned that apparently Rooney was indicating a two footed tackle. Mancini gave it the whole arrogant "I don't give a feck, I'm right" shrug of the shoulders. He's a smarmy, smartarsed prick. City manager or not, he's a right bellend.
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To be honest I think it was just one of those Italian gestures as if to say 'oh come on ref'. It was very different to the Skrtel one.
sammsky1 said:
And I applaud Mancini and all the other club managers who have come out and gone on record to state their views ... frankly their is only one objective view available, and thats what Mancini has done.

He could have stayed quiet on the matter, he did not. My respect for him goes up accordingly.
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This is pretty much where I stand on it, except that no other manager has actually gone on record to condemn Liverpool/Suarez.
 
sammsky1 said:
C'mon, thats just inter club rivalry and heat of the moment managers talk. SAF does it all the time.

Some things are just MUCH bigger than football, even for those who depend on the footballing industry for their fame, self worth and livelihood. The SUAREZ racist jibes is one such matter.

And I applaud Mancini and all the other club managers who have come out and gone on record to state their views ... frankly their is only one objective view available, and thats what Mancini has done.

He could have stayed quiet on the matter, he did not. My respect for him goes up accordingly.
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Hold on, I never indicated in the slightest that the Suarez incident wasn't bigger than football, I simply stated Mancini is a liar and I've no like or respect for him. So he criticised a racist for being racist, how is that deserving of respect? He's still a cnut, he's clearly just not a racist cnut.

Being against racism isn't something that should change your opinion of someone. I dislike Mancini because I think he's a twat, him sharing my opinion on the Evra-Suarez incident doesn't change that, and shouldn't cloud anyone elses judgement on him either. If you like him or respect him or whatever then feel free to. I don't, and the fact that he's anti-racism doesn't change that, it's not an achievement, everyone should be anti-racism.
 
Liam147 said:
To be honest I think it was just one of those Italian gestures as if to say 'oh come on ref'. It was very different to the Skrtel one.


This is pretty much where I stand on it, except that no other manager has actually gone on record to condemn Liverpool/Suarez.
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What are you talking about Liam? He clearly indicated Rooney waved an imaginary card, he's been spouting off since it happened that Rooney got Kompany sent off. He told blatant lies, and when he was pulled up on lies he gave it the old who gives a feck. I don't get some United fans like for him, he's always been a smarmy knob as far as I can see.
 
The Neviller said:
What are you talking about Liam? He clearly indicated Rooney waved an imaginary card, he's been spouting off since it happened that Rooney got Kompany sent off. He told blatant lies, and when he was pulled up on lies he gave it the old who gives a feck. I don't get some United fans like for him, he's always been a smarmy knob as far as I can see.
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He didn't. There were clear differences between what he did with Skrtel (running around the touchline making an obvious card waving gesture) and Rooney, where it was more of a pleading gesture of disbelief.

What were these lies? Am I missing something here?

And I wouldn't say that United fans like him on the whole, but when he gets compared with Dalglish, who is a truly despicable man, our other major rival's manager, he comes across quite well.

I wouldn't say I like him, but compared with everything else connected with City, he's above the average.
 
Liam147 said:
He didn't. There were clear differences between what he did with Skrtel (running around the touchline making an obvious card waving gesture) and Rooney, where it was more of a pleading gesture of disbelief.

What were these lies? Am I missing something here?

And I wouldn't say that United fans like him on the whole, but when he gets compared with Dalglish, who is a truly despicable man, our other major rival's manager, he comes across quite well.

I wouldn't say I like him, but compared with everything else connected with City, he's above the average.
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In his press conference, shown on Sky, he was moaning about Rooney waving an imaginary card, which Rooney in fact didn't do. When pointed out by a reporter that Rooney had in fact gestured a two footed tackle, he still moaned about Rooney getting Kompany sent off, for nothing. A liar and a moany shite. What arent you getting?

I don't think he is above the average, sorry, I just don't agree. You're entitled to your opinion on him. But you're opinion is wrong :lol: he's an arse.

Nah but seriously, I just dont like him at all, he always pisses me off when I see an interview or press conference. I think he's a tool.
 
The Neviller said:
In his press conference, shown on Sky, he was moaning about Rooney waving an imaginary card, which Rooney in fact didn't do. When pointed out by a reporter that Rooney had in fact gestured a two footed tackle, he still moaned about Rooney getting Kompany sent off, for nothing. A liar and a moany shite. What arent you getting?

I don't think he is above the average, sorry, I just don't agree. You're entitled to your opinion on him. But you're opinion is wrong :lol: he's an arse.

Nah but seriously, I just dont like him at all, he always pisses me off when I see an interview or press conference. I think he's a tool.
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Ah I see. Well at best it's him getting his facts wrong, at worst it's him fabricating things about players. But as he said in the article, everyone does make mistakes. And you can see his point about Rooney trying to get him sent off.

Think of it as Smalling diving in with two feet on Silva, Silva ignores it, and Nasri charges at the ref to point out that it was a two-footed tackle. You'd be a bit annoyed, but it's part of football, players do it all the time. I don't think Rooney did anything wrong at all, he pointed out what was a red card offence, but if the shoe had been on the other foot, I can't say I wouldn't have reacted in a similar way to Mancini.

This aside, he usually seems quite respectful usually, which, compared to Redknapp, Dalglish, Hughes, Benitez, Capello and others who come across as absolute pricks.
 
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