Dalglish's latest statment is better.
Except the glaring lack of apology to Evra. Still.
Except the glaring lack of apology to Evra. Still.
Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse
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My intentions aren't all that admirable, I'd rather just rise above it and watch this mess unfold from the higher ground rather than getting embroiled in it...
Fr Ted script writers more like.
Maybe Evra should have said nothing in the first place and there would be no trouble at all now.
The way they have treated Evra in the past few months has been worse than the original crime. It was all said already, so no, I won't leave it.
Do you have any idea what you are trying to achieve? All that all this is going to do is increase animosity between the two clubs fans; that's never going to achieve anything positive.
I think that the spotlight being kept on that horrible club and that horrible man by the fans and the media is about the best thing that can happen. Hopefully he will crack up completely and walk away leaving them to get rid of Suarez and then try to pick up the pieces. If what you are worrying about happening in a few weeks does happen then I won't feel one bit responsible. LFC have a responsibility to both control and offer leadership to their fans. It's proven they are incapable of either, so as much attention need to be kept on this so we can keep up the pressure on this management team.
Getting that out of touch with modern reality twat out of football would be the ultimate goal now.
Getting that out of touch with modern reality twat out of football would be the ultimate goal now.
The animosity is being created by one side alone. SAF, Evra or the club have been virtually silent on the matter.
I completely agree and think the fans should follow suit- that's my whole point really.
Their creed or their religion? Interesting definition.
It's quite amazing just how much talking they're doing compared to how little you hear from United.
Another article calling for calm. Fergie's mentioned nothing of it, Evra hasn't, no one has. But it seems that every day you read another person connected with Liverpool hoping we don't 'antagonise them' as if we've done something wrong.
First you had Dalglish saying (through the media) that they should meet with United to try diffuse the situation, now there's CEO Ian Ayre doing his bit. They forget that absolutely everything to do with this is their own doing. Other than one of our players being on the RECEIVING end of racial abuse, we've done nothing whatsoever to provoke any reaction. Hope we fecking ruin them.
FA chiefs will contact Liverpool and Manchester United to try to stop their FA Cup tie boiling over - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk
Another article calling for calm. Fergie's mentioned nothing of it, Evra hasn't, no one has. But it seems that every day you read another person connected with Liverpool hoping we don't 'antagonise them' as if we've done something wrong.
First you had Dalglish saying (through the media) that they should meet with United to try diffuse the situation, now there's CEO Ian Ayre doing his bit. They forget that absolutely everything to do with this is their own doing. Other than one of our players being on the RECEIVING end of racial abuse, we've done nothing whatsoever to provoke any reaction. Hope we fecking ruin them.
FA chiefs will contact Liverpool and Manchester United to try to stop their FA Cup tie boiling over - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk
My God, thats unthinkable to hear shit like that. There's feck all fun or social expression about expressing terms to another person - complete stranger at that, of his race, creed, beliefs or colour. This shit is really bringing out the worst in people. Sickening!
Dog Leash is a feckin disgrace. End of!
Uruguayan's and scousers should realise that just because something is acceptable in their own country does not mean that it is acceptable somewhere else, this down to differences in history, culture, etc.
Someone educate these idiots that there's a world outside their own.
Someone educate these idiots that there's a world outside their own.
The only way I could find it in myself to rekindle any degree of respect for Liverpool FC as an institution is if "they" issued something along these lines:
"Since the dust has settled somewhat on the Suarez-Evra incident, with the benefit of hindsight we recognise that our natural response to protect our own player in light of serious allegations mistakenly gave the impression we were unsympathetic to Mr Evra himself. We would like to take this opportunity to apologise to him now, unreservedly; for both the original offence and for our subsequent statements that implied he was somehow at fault. Although the club intends to both support and guide Mr Suarez's future conduct as a Liverpool player, Liverpool Football Club sincerely regrets some of its actions in this matter, and believes that Patrice Evra's reputation has been done a disservice by some of our statements during a time in which there has been more heat than light."
What's so hard about that? Sure, it's a climb down, but it takes real guts to do something like that and I genuinely believe they'd salvage something of their own reputation if they were this unequivocal. feck what a few of their more childish fans might think, you know?
"Since the dust has settled somewhat on the Suarez-Evra incident, with the benefit of hindsight we recognise that our natural response to protect our own player in light of serious allegations mistakenly gave the impression we were unsympathetic to Mr Evra himself. We would like to take this opportunity to apologise to him now, unreservedly; for both the original offence and for our subsequent statements that implied he was somehow at fault. Although the club intends to both support and guide Mr Suarez's future conduct as a Liverpool player, Liverpool Football Club sincerely regrets some of its actions in this matter, and believes that Patrice Evra's reputation has been done a disservice by some of our statements during a time in which there has been more heat than light."
What's so hard about that? Sure, it's a climb down, but it takes real guts to do something like that and I genuinely believe they'd salvage something of their own reputation if they were this unequivocal. feck what a few of their more childish fans might think, you know?
I think there's more chance of them donning Eric Cantona masks, defiling Shankly's grave and selling the story to the Sun.
Has anyone seen William Roache's twitter account?
Like Ken Barlow would be on Twitter arguing with Liverpool fans and Kenny Dalglish.
Common sense told me that but I was sent the link from a friend who I thought was in the know.
Sorry guys, I failed.
Still kinda funny...I followed the redcafe standards for talking to people ITK.
Sigh. You're probably right, Plech.
send it to them as a suggestion from a manchester united fan. they can do with any help they can get!
you never know, but it may just be YOU who makes kkk see sense.
They can't do that, if they do it means they're accepting Evra's account is accurate, which makes their actions after the guilty verdict was given all the more reprehensible. Given the conflicting nature of Evra and Suarez's accounts of the story, one of them has to be telling the truth and the other lying. Evra's account does not leave open the possibility of cultural misunderstanding, and they're sure as feck not going to condemn their own player as a racist.
'Or' is correct.
Woaaah. Suarez AND Kenny have verified Twitter accounts??
Don't do it!!
Hey Farva, what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the wall and the mozzarella sticks?
Media on Racism: Part 1 – Churnalism « N E W S
It's all Jeremy Clarkson's fault, apparently. It's amazing that even the high-level arguments they are using boil down to the blinkered, biased, blind love inherent ONLY in Liverpool fans. They need to just stop this. But they won't. Expect the same level of outrage amongst their fans when we go to Klanfield
It's all Jeremy Clarkson's fault, apparently. It's amazing that even the high-level arguments they are using boil down to the blinkered, biased, blind love inherent ONLY in Liverpool fans. They need to just stop this. But they won't. Expect the same level of outrage amongst their fans when we go to Klanfield
That article only tells us what we already know about the press - they're expedient, and put profits before morals. Still, the author is very nearly as guilty of 'cherry-picking' as those he accuses.
SteveRotheramMP Steve Rotheram
I have been successful in getting a Parliamentary Select Committee (DCMS) to look at the whole issue of racism in football/sport (06/03/12)
I have been successful in getting a Parliamentary Select Committee (DCMS) to look at the whole issue of racism in football/sport (06/03/12)
I know - ffs like
It's a wonderful image though.
Not sure where to put this, but Ryan Babel posted a BBM claiming it was Evra's, the BBM obviously blew up with messages, only for Babel to reveal it was, in his own words, "a hater's" BBM. End result, Babel is now trending on twitter worldwide
So in English, Babel had the BBM of someone who was a nuisance in some sort of way, so posted it and pretended it was Evra's in the hope that whoever it was would get lots of abusive messages and render their BBM useless?
I like it.
EDIT - On research, he actually gave Rooney and Evra's genuine BBM's out. What a prick.
Its what any decent football fan would do .... but the cynic in me tells me this is just now all part of a restorative PR job, aimed at trying to re-establish Liverpool's supposed unequivocal stance on Racism, an attempt to score some points with the footballing public at large and to deflect attention away from the shocking, disgraceful and 'implicit racism endorsement' strategy they so crudely took during the disgusting SUAREZ episode (which still has many legs to run).
Pathetic football club, pathetic players, pathetic fans ... I don't trust or believe Liverpool football club on anything on these matters anymore .... any utterances from the club on racism or in particular, on the Suarez Racism Case will all be purely strategic damage limitation exercises, cynically thought out by PR professionals and NOT acts of genuine belief from the heart.
Take the actions taken by our club less than 24 hours of the Cantona Kung Fu Moment as an example ..... that is zero tolerance. I'd hoped Liverpool would have acted the same way ... they didn't. Case closed.
Yeah pretty much. Its been a long day, and I don't really understand twitter at the best of times.
I'm refering to the respond the Pool fan gets when defending Suarez later in the thread. That's how most decent people feel about this...
Like always though, there's a Liverpool fan trying to defend Suarez / poke holes in the FA's testimony... I'm tempted to register on that forum just to pick holes in his ridiculous post of Suarez innocence.
His defence even contains the, now standard, "he can't be racist 'cos he knows black people"...
