Berbatov | Fulham player

Berbatov looks like a less haggard version of Steve from Corrie Street.

I hope this all isn't true. I would like him to stay.

But Fergie doesn't trust him. I think the misses against Chelsea in 2010 and the misses against City in the FA Cup really hurt his chances of being trusted for big games.

Yes he had the hattrick against Liverpool but Rooney and Hernendez have produced against the big teams consistently and I think Berbatov's failure to do so made him into a bench player rightly or wrongly.

I guess you could say that Berbatov should have been given more chances in Europe to prove his big game abilities.

Saying that, Berbatov is too good to be a bench player and if he is off then it's totally understandable.
 
RedDevilCanuck said:
But Fergie doesn't trust him. I think the misses against Chelsea in 2010 and the misses against City in the FA Cup really hurt his chances of being trusted for big games.
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:confused: What game are you referring to?

EDIT: Never mind I assume you mean the 1-2 at OT with the offside Drogba goal?
 
Although Ferguson would prefer to retain Berbatov until the end of the season, the prospect of banking £4-5 million by selling him this month could prompt United to sell the player, who reportedly boarded a flight from Manchester to Frankfurt yesterday morning.
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Wasn't he in Manchester yesterday afternoon?
 
Pfft, Berba's sock is worth more than that.
 
If I knew how to use Photoshop, I'd be slaying you guys with a 'Berbs on a Plane' pic.
 
Aww bugger...we must be selling the entire squad and Sir Frogie too. :(

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Its never really worked out for Berba at United. He's done some good things, but when you look at some of the goals he scored for Spurs, he's never really looked like doing that kind of thing for us.

I think what someone said about Fergie not trusting him is on the money. How many big games has he not performed in for us?

I really hoped it would be a good move for him, but he's been mostly average for me.

If he does go, good luck to him, if not, hopefully cam contribute something to the rest of the season.
 
redspoony said:
Its never really worked out for Berba at United. He's done some good things, but when you look at some of the goals he scored for Spurs, he's never really looked like doing that kind of thing for us.

I think what someone said about Fergie not trusting him is on the money. How many big games has he not performed in for us?

I really hoped it would be a good move for him, but he's been mostly average for me.

If he does go, good luck to him, if not, hopefully cam contribute something to the rest of the season.
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Imo its not about the goals. its about two shambolic seasons, his first two seasons with us.. he was an utter waste of space then. Ironically, now when he plays further up the pitch hes one of.my fav players.
 
GCHQ said:
Why would you expect much more than that?
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Doesn't he have 1.5 years left on his contract? That should give us some money, especially if Anzhi are involved.
 
Kid Cunto said:
£5million? :lol:
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As GCHQ has said, we can't expect much more than that at the moment if we do sell him. He's only got about six months left of his contract and he's in his 30s. If he is sold in this transfer window, the club buying him will be getting him at a good price.
 
Floyd said:
Doesn't he have 1.5 years left on his contract? That should give us some money, especially if Anzhi are involved.
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He's only got half a year. The club can activate a 1 year extension to his contract but can't do that till around March I think.
 
Damien1990 said:
He's only got half a year. The club can activate a 1 year extension to his contract but can't do that till around March I think.
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The club have said they will activate it. Meaning he has a year and a half.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
The club have said they will activate it. Meaning he has a year and a half.
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Yes but at the moment it's still half a year until it's activated which it hasn't been yet.
 
Either way I'd say £5-10m would be the price. He is going to want big wages considering it'll be his last big contract and if he is after the wages he is currently on for say a 3 year contract, you'd be looking at £20-25m for 3 years.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
Fergie stated that it will be activated. So it will be activated. It isn't half a year.
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If we were to sell him tomorrow, Berbatov's current contract would stand at it expiring in July 2012 or whenever it was originally due to end and the price that we get for him would reflect that.

Yes Fergie has said it will be activated but it hasn't yet, and it can't be as it doesn't kick in until March according to him:

Sir Alex told reporters: "We'll be exercising [the option to renew Berbatov's contract]. I think it kicks in in March."
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Sir Alex Ferguson confirms Dimitar Berbatov contract will be extended by Manchester United - Goal.com

There's a lot of other sources than Goal which say the same thing. So if Berbatov is still here come the end of this transfer window, and it comes to March, his contract will then be extended to the end of the 2013 season but at the moment his contract does expire at the end of this season as the option hasn't yet been activated as it can't.
 
Damien1990 said:
If we were to sell him tomorrow, Berbatov's current contract would stand at it expiring in July 2012 or whenever it was originally due to end and the price that we get for him would reflect that.
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No, it wouldn't. Unless you completely ignore the option that we have which we are going to exercise.


Yes Fergie has said it will be activated but it hasn't yet, and it can't be as it doesn't kick in until March according to him:



Sir Alex Ferguson confirms Dimitar Berbatov contract will be extended by Manchester United - Goal.com
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So we, and interested clubs are going to completely ignore it?

There's a lot of other sources than Goal which say the same thing. So if Berbatov is still here come the end of this transfer window, and it comes to March, his contract will then be extended to the end of the 2013 season but at the moment his contract does expire at the end of this season as the option hasn't yet been activated as it can't.
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The option will be activated. There is no reason in the world why it wouldn't be. It is a one way option, and Berbatov has no choice in the matter. It is not in the club's interest in any imaginable way NOT to activate it.
 
Amir said:
Technically it is half a year, until it isn't. You can't tell Leverkusen we want more money because he has a clause and we intend to use it.
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Yes, you can. Because (and here is the clever part), YOU ACTIVATE THE CLAUSE.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
No, it wouldn't. Unless you completely ignore the option that we have which we are going to exercise.
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I'm not completely ignoring it but still at the moment the option that we are going to exercise doesn't count for much if we're going to sell him tomorrow as it has not been activated.

Lance Uppercut said:
So we, and interested clubs are going to completely ignore it?
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Well if he's being sold this transfer window none of the interested clubs have to worry about it. They see his contract as it currently stands: expiring at the end of this season. So what they're going to pay affects that. Just because there's a clause that can be activated in March doesn't mean that they must pay more. The clause is of no concern to interested clubs at the moment.

Now United on the other hand, it gives us a choice (if we do decide to sell him) of whether to sell now with half a year left on his contract, or wait till the summer after his contract clause has been activated and he has a year left. There's also wages etc to take into account in the remaining months till the end of the season too and we might get more money for him at the end of the season with a year left on his contract but how much more is hard to say.

Lance Uppercut said:
The option will be activated. There is no reason in the world why it wouldn't be. It is a one way option, and Berbatov has no choice in the matter. It is not in the club's interest in any imaginable way NOT to activate it.
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Exactly. Only reason it wouldn't be activated is if the club decide to sell this transfer window, which I'm not sure why they would but it's all hypothetical.
 
Amir said:
Technically it is half a year, until it isn't. You can't tell Leverkusen we want more money because he has a clause and we intend to use it.
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That's just silly though, isn't it? The only reason players go cheap in the last 6 months of their contract is because their club risks losing him for free if they don't get some money for him in that window. This isn't a risk for United, so there's no reason to sell him on the ultra cheap.
 
The problem for Berbatov is that his partnership with Rooney just isnt working and never has. We look a lot more cumbersome and less fluid when they play together. Neither of them has a lot of off the ball movement as part of their game, and with Rooney basically playing whenever hes fit that means Berbatov wont get games. Playing either of them with Welbeck is a lot better than playing them together, which means that unfortunately a very skilled player just wont be getting the amount of games he deserves.
 
MrK said:
That's just silly though, isn't it? The only reason players go cheap in the last 6 months of their contract is because their club risks losing him for free if they don't get some money for him in that window. This isn't a risk for United, so there's no reason to sell him on the ultra cheap.
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This. I'm not sure why people can't grasp it.

The reason people go cheap when they're nearing the end of their contract is because clubs are risking letting go of them for free. The 'free' risk isn't an option yet so we can command a higher price.
 
marchi-91 said:
If he is going to see Bayer, then we've probably already agreed a fee. Might explain his absence from the last two games. Otherwise, unless he is injured, I see no reason why he wasn't on the bench against Bolton.
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He was on the bench at Bolton, but not at City
 
Have we established when exactly the contract extension needs to be activated?

Any time before the contract deadline, for a club trying to buy him it's as if he has 18 months left, because effectively he does. Any time after that moment, if its not activated, then he only has 6 months left on his contract and can be purchased for pittance.

So when is the deadline, if its after January then we are laughing and it makes no difference. They either trump up money as if he had 18 months left on his contract or they wait and see if we let him go for a free. If its in January then at some point he will, for definite, have 18 or 6 months after his contract and so they may as well wait until then.
 
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