Yes, having an sort of criticism about a team that constantly dives is bitterness.
I don't get it either. Plenty of people in this thread have gone out of their way to say Real are cheating, annoying cnuts as well
Barcelona - a lot of moaning about them and some praise
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I don't get it either. Plenty of people in this thread have gone out of their way to say Real are cheating, annoying cnuts as well
Some people can't handle anything negative being said about Barcelona, it's quite strange.
Apparently being the best collection of footballers around means you're allowed to dive, cheat and generally act like twats, you're above criticism.
Apparently being the best collection of footballers around means you're allowed to dive, cheat and generally act like twats, you're above criticism.
I think its more that they only come out of the woodwork after classico's, purely because that is the only time they watch them and do nothing but bitch and moan, far more than praise the good bits.
Not this discussion again.
I'd agree that their cuntishness shines through when they meet Real. Then again, we somehow manage to avoid transforming to cnuts when we play Liverpool or City, regardless of the result. I don't think anyone will dispute their play when on song is on point, which makes the fannyness more annoying. They managed to beat us in the final without any controversy
The thread title is certainly pointed in that direction but the content of thread doesn't go that far by most commenters.
I suggested that changing the thread title would shut up all these types of arguments. Marcos get on it
"Barcelona and Real Madrid are disgusting football teams, and Busquets and Pepe should be fired into the sun"
"Barcelona and Real Madrid are disgusting football teams, and Busquets and Pepe should be fired into the sun"
i'm still traumatized by the title
i have nightmares ffs
Nightmares!!!!
i wasnt being serius
- Diving wasn't invented by Barcelona.
- Can you name ONE club that doesn't have any divers in it?
- Singling out Barcelona to criticize for something every other team does = bitterness.
- Claiming that Barcelona's success is due to diving and cheating = taking bitterness to a whole new level.
- People who only watch Barcelona when they are losing, and only get vocal when Barcelona is favored in a decision by the ref or one of their players dive, while stay silent when a decision goes wrongly against them or one of the players of the opposing team dives, do not have (in my opinion) enough credibility to claim that this thread has anything to do with "objectivity"..
completely agree
That's a new one. A lot of people are disappointed and annoyed that with the talent they have the still resort to that.
It's also not about having any divers in your club. It's about being like Busquets and Dani Alves and then a whole lot of others when it suits them.
They aren't being singled out. Again, the thread title. It was made in anger by someone and hasn't been changed. Real get's stick as well. Atl. Madrid, Sevilla, Inter or AC Milan don't get slack because people don't care about them. Italian league isn't being watched and there are only two contenders in Spain and they happen to be the main contenders for the CL as well.
I agree with your last point. I don't think Barcelona get favored in general. Sure they get some games just like every other team. The better and more attacking a team is the more likely they are to get decisions their way. It's also interesting to note when top teams lose points often or not it's because the ref made a series of mistake. So the big teams get it bad sometimes too.
I don't know why bothering defending Barcelona after the Classicos. They are at their worst in these games. Real sure foul a lot but besides Pepe there aren't that many despicable moments from them.
No it wasn't. They've mastered the art of systemic, widespread diving in their team though.
I think it's a La Liga problem, they're all divers over there. Take us for example, we only have Nani as a serial diver (who has cut it out recently), but his teammates and fans give him stick if he attempts it. We don't try to justify it, like you do
It's not the diving alone, it's the fact that they use it as a tactic. This thread was created after the 1st leg semifinal, did you watch that game? Then you'll know what i'm talking about.
Well that's retarded, who says that? Do you have proof? They're an awesome team, apart from the diving and cuntishness. I don't know why you and Randall are so eager to overlook the negative part of their game. It's possible to play well without it, see how they swept us away in the final with utter class, there was no bad word against them after the game. Stop inventing stuff
When they are losing?
I think you'll find people in this thread and forum who can objectively watch a neutral game, and point out acts from both teams. You have the nutters like Randall and Cal?, but why generalize?Also, you're a United fan, why do you care so much about a team that whipped us twice?
What does that have to do with anything? Knee high challenges weren't invented by Carragher, should we ignore his challenge on Nani last year?
Can you name one serial offender who doesn't get called out for it on here?
Nobody singles them out, stop playing the victim card because it won't play.
I'd like to see a single example of this, please.
Madrid got just as much shit thrown at them on here last night so you don't really have a point here.
Can you name one that dives like Barcelona? one that is more likable despite doing so?
I'd say Porto, and I despise them.
Nar mate, we always slag off the Portuguese teams too.
Agreed, haven't seen that happen myself though.
Weird paragraph, I don't really get it. Surely people also admit that Barca are also wronged on occasions? Hyperbole on your side maybe?
at the multi multi quote
it was one of those bizarre posts that just has to be broken down and tackled Chief style!Been stuck in meetings all day. Who won?
Not Danny1982
Did he have a mare?
That's just stupid.
You did it wrong.
I wanted to simplify.
LOL! Quoted 17 times in 15 minutes! You tell me who is having nightmares!
Ok ok.. There is no way I'm answering / quoting back every single post, so let's just test your honesty a little.. I'll ask you a clear question, and I want a one-word-answer. Yes or No.
If you were offered to exchange our team with Barcelona's now, the whole team, will you do it?
Ok ok.. There is no way I'm answering / quoting back every single post, so let's just test your honesty a little.. I'll ask you a clear question, and I want a one-word-answer. Yes or No.
If you were offered to exchange our team with Barcelona's now, the whole team, will you do it?
Are you retarded?
I LOVE my team, so feck NO!
Barcelona are the best team I've ever seen though.
And being quoted for being a nutter isn't a good thing.
Can I ask you a question in return?LOL! Quoted 17 times in 15 minutes! You tell me who is having nightmares!
Ok ok.. There is no way I'm answering / quoting back every single post, so let's just test your honesty a little.. I'll ask you a clear question, and I want a one-word-answer. Yes or No.
If you were offered to exchange our team with Barcelona's now, the whole team, will you do it?
How do you think your question is even vaguely related to the question of whether Barcelona dive to an unedifying degree?
(Clue: It's not. It's an entirely different subject.)
Oh, and no I wouldn't. This is completely unrelated to whether they're better then United, just to clear up your confusion.
Retarded? Nutter? Seriously, you need to calm down, and consult your doctor about those nightmares..
And your answer was: no, if you were United's manager/owner, and you were offered to take the whole Barcelona team (for free), you'd say no, I love our players..
By the way, I know loving our team for you obviously means that we stick with our current players until they die (because you love our team), but what are we going to do when all of our players die? We can't bring anybody new, because new players will not be our team when they join us.. Oh wait, ... Did you really say that?
Thanks for your honesty by the way..
Danny, seeing as you're trying your best to sidestep having your post torn apart, can you at least respond to one part:
"Claiming that Barcelona's success is due to diving and cheating = taking bitterness to a whole new level."
This was from your post, can you provide some examples of people do that, please.
"Claiming that Barcelona's success is due to diving and cheating = taking bitterness to a whole new level."
This was from your post, can you provide some examples of people do that, please.
LOL! Quoted 17 times in 15 minutes! You tell me who is having nightmares!
Ok ok.. There is no way I'm answering / quoting back every single post, so let's just test your honesty a little.. I'll ask you a clear question, and I want a one-word-answer. Yes or No.
If you were offered to exchange our team with Barcelona's now, the whole team, will you do it?
No. They wouldn't be qualified to play in any competition.
Torn apart!
You avoided the main point in my post. Why are we only having a thread about Barcelona, and is Barcelona really THE MOST disgusting team in the world? A few of you even agreed with me that this thread is stupid (especially the title), so I don't really understand what are you babbling about?
If you REALLy want to tackle my post, tell me why do we ONLY have a thread about Barcelona?? So now you have 2 questions to answer, and I'm interested to hear you answer both..
And by the way, about this "Barcelona's success is due to cheating", Mourinho said it last year and many agreed here.
Are you avoiding to answer the question, or is that a "No"?
Well, that question doesn't make much sense. I tried to make it make sense and in that sensible world the answer is no.
We got our own academy players.
Torn apart!
You avoided the main point in my post. Why are we only having a thread about Barcelona, and is Barcelona really THE MOST disgusting team in the world? A few of you even agreed with me that this thread is stupid (especially the title), so I don't really understand what are you babbling about?
If you REALLy want to tackle my post, tell me why do we ONLY have a thread about Barcelona?? So now you have 2 questions to answer, and I'm interested to hear you answer both..
And by the way, about this "Barcelona's success is due to cheating", Mourinho said it last year and many agreed here.
Yes, torn apart, which is why you are consistently dodging what everyone has said.
I avoided nothing about your post, it's you who seems to have trouble with reality. For a start, people have said time and time again that the thread needs renaming, and that Madrid are every bit as bad, so your bizarre persecution complex is, well, bizarre.
Re the bit in bold, you seem to have trouble reading, the thread title says they are a disgusting team, not THE most disgusting team. It's a subtle difference, I'll grant you, it's not like it changes the entire basis of what you're saying. Oh wait, my bad, yes it does.
Oh and if so many agreed with the idea that Barca are only successful due to cheating you shouldn't have any trouble backing your claim up, should you?
LOL! Quoted 17 times in 15 minutes! You tell me who is having nightmares!
Ok ok.. There is no way I'm answering / quoting back every single post, so let's just test your honesty a little.. I'll ask you a clear question, and I want a one-word-answer. Yes or No.
If you were offered to exchange our team with Barcelona's now, the whole team, will you do it?
Seriously?
I'm watching a new team grow up and I want to see what happens next. I've seen a lot of United teams grow up - some rubbish, some great, some just something in between. I've seen players come and go, I've even seen managers come and go, but it's always been about change, about growth (and decline).
The thing about football is that it goes on, every season it starts again - new hopes, new expectations, new players come, old ones go, there's a natural rhythm to it, a thread that binds it all together. A thread that makes SAF talk about United as a family.
I expect Real Madrid fans would do the swap, but then they're used to throwing players/teams/managers away for the next "project"
Hypothetical questions still have to make sense.
I don't root for Barcelona for many reasons. I don't root for them now so obviously I wouldn't want their whole team.
Short answer. No.
Since I didn't answer it yet, in answer to the thoroughly stupid question of whether I'd swap teams with Barca; no.
If you'd want to do that you don't have any understanding of, or connection with, Manchester United.
If you'd want to do that you don't have any understanding of, or connection with, Manchester United.
No.