So bench at best on Thursday.
Paul Pogba
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Remains to be seen. Though if he plays the full game tonight, i dont think he'd figure in the starting line up on Thursday.
So ridiculous. You and Twigg should marry.
I dunno. It's unusual for Sir Alex to say 'first team member'. Most people would have said squad. I don't think tonight's game has much significance for Thursday other then he needs games. He needs to get back playing.
Why is that ridiculous?
Thats the type of attitude I was criticizing in the first place. We've seen Pogba turning from 'the reason why we haven't spend money on a midfielder' to 'just a reserve' in few months and I wont be surprised if the mentality will revert IF he signs his contract with us.
In my opinion he's neither one nor the other. He's got more potential to be relegated to the De Laet or Owen type of player but he certainly havent shown enough to become some sort of reason of why not investing in a CM that is starving for quality. Not to forget that the Spanish has changed football. Their workrate, their class with the ball and their constant pressing have made players who rely mainly on hardwork, passion and workrate redundant. A player who can't hold the ball and pass it well even under constant pressure will struggle at the highest level. That's the bar set by the Liga and that's what we should aim for if we want to beat the Spanish guys and reclaim the CL trophy.
Old news.
We don't need to, I mean we can play the 16 year old youth team players in midfield if we had too.
But we realistically should.
said elswhere, whether he stays with us or not, he will be a very good player.
I really hope we get to see this lad develop into a great player here.
I really hope we get to see this lad develop into a great player here.
I can't believe he's still being compared to Vieira. He's much more like a Yaya Toure.
I think he's very similar to Christian Eriksen to be honest. I know, both are youngsters, but unfortunatly I feel that many of our fans might've seen Eriksen more then they've seen Pogba.
Because of the options, injuries, age, diseases, and depth in our current midfield maybe?
What exactly is your reason for not going and signing say ... Javi Martinez, and keeping our midfield exactly like it is. You don't think he'd improve it?
So he's an ACM? His position was all over when he came on.
I agree he is a different to Viera but he is not similar to Yaya too.
I'm not going to count my chickens until he signs a contract.
hes more of an adventurous centre midfielder really, think luka modric.
Likes to get forward and join the box, but will come deep to recieve the ball and start off play like scholesy.
In the reserve team tonight it seems.
Didn't catch that.
I mean he is not very similar to Yaya.
He better be signing the damn contract.
From descriptions on here he sounds like a mix of all of the worlds best midfielders...
Really? Keeps possession well, gangly but strong, eye for a pass, plays in an advanced role, good shot on him. In what ways isn't he similar to Yaya?
...though clearly not as good as Carrick.
I think he plays a bit deeper than Eriksen, but definitely he is more playmaker than destroyer. I think his size is deceptive - he's not particularly combative nor does he sprint all over the shop. He's a very elegant footballer. If anything I'd like to see him get 'in the wars' a bit more when we don't have the ball.
Too early trying to compare him with other midfielders, he's nowhere near as complete as any established midfielders. If you forced me to pick though I'd say he's similar in a way to Charlie Adam. *braces himself
Is that not American football?
What? He's nothing like Eriksen.
Pogba agreed to a deal according to Sky Sports.
Pogba agrees United deal | Manchester United News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports
Pogba agrees United deal | Manchester United News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports
Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson, Giggs, Jones, Scholes, Fletcher.
I see no 16-year olds among them.
Really? From what I've seen of Eriksen, both of them seems to be at their best in the attacking third, always creating space for themselves and looking for a killer pass. While Pogba might have the physical advantage, and Eriksen perhaps being more of a footballing brain at the moment, I think both of them have a lot of similarities.
I have no idea, as to my knowledge I have never seen Javi Martinez play a game of football.
Id say he's far more technically skilled especially in the shooting department than Yaya. His natural position is probably a little further up the pitch than him as well.
Nate Dogg posted this in the 'best young player' thread.
With all the amazing young players we have, Smalling, Chicharito, Welbeck, Jones, Evans, De Gea, Cleverley and Rafael, someone pics Pogba over all of them? I love Pogba too, but I don't see how anyone could rate him as our best youngster when he's barely gotten a game for the first team. You can only learn so much from watching a player in the reserves.
With all the amazing young players we have, Smalling, Chicharito, Welbeck, Jones, Evans, De Gea, Cleverley and Rafael, someone pics Pogba over all of them? I love Pogba too, but I don't see how anyone could rate him as our best youngster when he's barely gotten a game for the first team. You can only learn so much from watching a player in the reserves.
Let's hope it's true, the next best thing to watching Scholes and Giggs is seeing young talent come through!
Or United stood their ground and Pogba ultimately decided he'd rather be at United than at some Italian club. None of us really know the details, but I don't get why people are just assuming that United are the ones who bend over. Much more plausible that all parties reached an agreement that they're all content with.
As much as I hate to label young midfielders Eriksen is pretty much an attacking midfielder only. His defensive qualities are very limited, but his creativity, vision and off the ball-movement are all very good. Pogba is a much more all-around midfielder as I see it.
In caf-phrases this would be: I don't think Eriksen can play central midfielder in a 4-4-2, but I think Pogba can.
We've talked about it on a different thread, you can look it up. I fully agree we have enough midfielders - and possibly quality - in theory. In reality, Giggs and Scholes are kind of part timers, we've no idea if Fletcher will come back (or how), and Anderson is always good for an injury (let's say the jury is out about Cleverley at this point). So when you look at that, it much less impressive.
Agree re. Giggs and Scholes, call them two 1 squad player.
Re. Anderson, he either has to prove he can be relied on in terms of fitness soon, otherwise it is no point having him around. But as long as he is around, he is taking up a squad place + need games if to progress.
Re. Fletcher, as long as there's hope of returning, he deserves that chance.
Carrick is an obvious choice.
The younger players need games to develop.
No point keeping Giggs and Scholes around if not being played.
Basically, IMO, there is no space for an expensive, well-established midfielder, unless there's a couple of departures.
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