The risk is that we want to sell him but can't find a club willing to match his £100,000 per week wages so he ends up hanging around like a bad smell for another year (harsh I know)
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The risk is that we want to sell him but can't find a club willing to match his £100,000 per week wages so he ends up hanging around like a bad smell for another year (harsh I know)
We're better off paying him £100k a week as a content squad player who has been solid for us when called on than losing him for free and having to fork out another £20m(+?) plus wages to replace him.
It wouldn't take £20m to replace Berbatov's contribution.
#mufc will exercise the option of another year on Berbatov contract but Sir Alex admits there will be a decision to make in the summer.
Berbatov concerned re: number of games and Sir Alex says it's difficult to give him guarantees.
Berbatov concerned re: number of games and Sir Alex says it's difficult to give him guarantees.
He's off. Probably the right decision. He's never been a player that could come in after four or five games and have a blinder (or at least not with any sort of regularity).
Means we are possibly going to piss away 30.5m and have absolutely none of the outlay back? Should have sold him off in January. Whoever is getting him on a free in the summer if we decide not to renew will have one hack of a good footballer. Berbatov deserves much better than to sit on the bench wasting his talent away at 31
We're extending his contract, which means we'll get a fee for him.
No, it means we'll sell him in the summer.
He was a mistake, a £30.5m mistake but mistakes happen. There is no point crying about it and blaming Ferguson. He's just one of hundreds of players Ferguson has bought and it just so happened he was the most expensive.
I'd say both Kleberson and the Djemba Twins were bigger flops/mistake per £ than Berbatov was though and they were both a fraction of the price.
Full quotes. Sounds like he's off to me. Extend the contract to protect SOME value.
"Dimitar could play tomorrow but I have good options with front players," stated Sir Alex. "His contract situation is we will be taking up the option on the contract but, having had chats with him, he wants to get first-team football and we need to consider that at the end of the season.
"At the moment, he remains at United. But I'd listen to what he says. I think he's concerned he isn't getting enough first-team football. It's difficult for me to guarantee that. At 31, you can understand he wants that. It may lead to him looking elsewhere."
"Dimitar could play tomorrow but I have good options with front players," stated Sir Alex. "His contract situation is we will be taking up the option on the contract but, having had chats with him, he wants to get first-team football and we need to consider that at the end of the season.
"At the moment, he remains at United. But I'd listen to what he says. I think he's concerned he isn't getting enough first-team football. It's difficult for me to guarantee that. At 31, you can understand he wants that. It may lead to him looking elsewhere."
You said in your previous post he's off, and then said we're extending his contract. So we are going to give him an extension only to sell him in the summer? Not being a drama queen, but pains me even more to see him treated like a piece of meat if that's going to be the case. He hasn't done anything wrong at all to deserve this
I'll never understand why Fergie didn't warm to Berbatov. His goal scoring rate has been good, he's been professional every time he's played and he talks the 'United way'. Seems like the kind of player Fergie would love, but didn't work out I guess.
I just hope it's not cause of Fergie's desire to do it all with 'his buys/ kids' (Welbeck/Hernandez).
Because Berbatov today is definitely better than both of them.
Hope he gets a great contract somewhere else, scores 30 goals next year and Fergie will have to come out and say yep, didn't fit in here or some other such crap.
I just hope it's not cause of Fergie's desire to do it all with 'his buys/ kids' (Welbeck/Hernandez).
Because Berbatov today is definitely better than both of them.
Hope he gets a great contract somewhere else, scores 30 goals next year and Fergie will have to come out and say yep, didn't fit in here or some other such crap.
Is it hard to understand that he really doesn't fit to our style?
I never get where this idea that SAF hasn't warmed to Berbatov comes form. He even waxes lyrical about him when given the chance to talk about the guy...
The extra year option on his contract is there for us to exercise if we wish. It's not being treated "like a piece of meat".
Think of it this way:
We want you to sign on for 5 years at £100k a week but to protect ourselves in case you get a career threatening injury, we are going to make the final year an option for us. That way, if you get an injury that rules you out for the final year of your contract we save ourselves £5.2m. If you are happy with that and want to earn £100k here, sign on the dotted line.
From what I have seen we have it in all our contracts to protect ourselves from players like Hargreaves who get paid for not playing and using our medical resources.
Think of it as essentially a 5 year contract where the player is guaranteed 4 years and the last year is if he still holds some value to the club, be it to stay and play or to be sold. You wouldn't have an issue with us selling a player with a year left on their contract would you?
Shame that we need 30.5m to know that though. The night and hours before and leading to his transfer was epic in the caf, to his rejection of City, Fergie 'kidnapping' him at the airport and whisked to Carrington to sign the deal. Was fantastic 
Source?
On Sky Sports twitter feed now.
I don't get why he hasn't been getting Europa league games consistently.
You'll never understand?
Maybe it was his performances over his entire time here? He simply hasn't done enough.
I would still like him to play more often, over Welbeck or Hernandez who haven't exactly being banging them in as of late. Shame he's probably going to leave, but these things happen. There have been games he could have easily played in, like the europa league, or against West Brom, considering he's done very well when called upon this season.
Fergie's press conference.
No, he simply hasn't been played enough!
Cheers.
Exactly, he was our top scorer last season, and the league's top scorer, then was dropped for months.
His performances have been good considering how intermittently he's been played. I buy the whole "doesn't fit the system" argument, but he has played well when asked.
I'm sure there are stats showing that: goals per minute on pitch, assists etc, i imagine are good. Even the amount of running during a game is high iirc.
I'm sure there are stats showing that: goals per minute on pitch, assists etc, i imagine are good. Even the amount of running during a game is high iirc.
Just what I always said...he was a really late buy, with a good pedigree, that just didn't totally work out. Talented player that never ever really got the united way...and that tells the whole story. There was just never a way to adjust the team to his way of playing......not a waste, scored many important and great goals, but just never fitted in totally to any team that fegie believed in.
Good luck to him, although I bet in years to come he will finally realise he probably didn't adapt as best as he could to the opportunity that was given to him
Good luck to him, although I bet in years to come he will finally realise he probably didn't adapt as best as he could to the opportunity that was given to him
I don't really agree with that.
Ability wise, he's a brilliant player and he's better than Hernandez and Welbeck, however if only it were as simple as that. You've got to look at a number of other factors when starting a player. How they slot into the team is one of them. The bare facts are that, to be honest, Berbatov doesn't really fit into our team. Hernandez and Welbeck are generally better options, because they compliment Rooney and link up well with him.
That's not really the case with Berbatov in all honesty. Preferrably, he wouldn't have been frozen out as much as he has been this season, and we'd have given him more games in the Europa League, but he can't really claim to have been hard done by when you look at it.
This is coming from someone who is a massive fan of Berba, as I really rate him as a player and a person.
Any why hasn't he played enough? Because he hash't been good enough over his time here, it's pretty simple stuff really. Unless SAF just irrationally hates him of course.
It's a real shame but he's far too good to play the role we ask of him nowadays. Can only hope we see a few more bits of Berbamagic before he departs
He would have played a lot more the past season or two had it not been for Chicharito's unexpectedly good start and Welbeck's steady development. Fergie knows who giving more game-time to is most beneficial in the long run and in the end that shut out Berba.
He would have played a lot more the past season or two had it not been for Chicharito's unexpectedly good start and Welbeck's steady development. Fergie knows who giving more game-time to is most beneficial in the long run and in the end that shut out Berba.
This is old ground and I'm not biting. He may not fit into " our system " but he he fit in well enough to win games for us when Rooney was crap and having his hissy fits.
Class player with an attitude to match but he really doesn't fit in with what we are trying to do, still think SAF could use him more than he does but Welbeck's come on the scene this year and to be fair to Berba he deserves a starting role somewhere else. Wonder if we might use him as a sweetener for a potential Hazard deal, in reality though you hardly ever see player+cash deals go down.
Maybe SAF just hates him hey?
I mean SAF has a history of leaving out players he's paid big money for despite them being excellent.
Then Rooney got his shit together and partnered some fella called Hernandez, Berbatov also never took to that lone role we sometimes require up top.
Unfortunately for him he was played pretty much irrespective of form for the first 2 seasons and only really performed sporadically. Last season he was very good for 4-5 months, but again his form dropped off.
Nowadays he is probably unlucky not to be playing more, but the same is happening to him than happened to some of our other players because of him when he first arrived. Fergie obviously sees developing Welbeck/Hernandez as a priority right now rather than giving him more games, just like he felt bedding his £31m signing in 08-10 was more important.
Keeping a backup on his wages would always be impossible for a fiscally responsible club.
Nowadays he is probably unlucky not to be playing more, but the same is happening to him than happened to some of our other players because of him when he first arrived. Fergie obviously sees developing Welbeck/Hernandez as a priority right now rather than giving him more games, just like he felt bedding his £31m signing in 08-10 was more important.
Keeping a backup on his wages would always be impossible for a fiscally responsible club.
Welbeck and Hernandez are more suited to our play than Berbatov is. That is the hard and cold truth. Berba is a classy player but to choose between him or an in form Welbeck/Hernandez? I know who I would pick.
I don't even think it's our style, I just think Berba is in the wrong era. 15 years ago he'd have been one of the best players in the world, and he'd have absolutely taken the piss in the Premier League. Still, he's scored 56 goals in 108 starts for Manchester United, he's not done too badly...
Fergie knows best, I guess. Will be sad to see him, played a very important role in our last title, but for a player of his quality he just wasn't getting enough games. Despite that his attitude has been spot and he hasn't really complained in the media about it.
I think that stat makes light of the constant labelling of him as a flop etc. Yes, he could have done a lot better but he still did reasonably well in his time here. Just not as well as we would have liked.
Took his time about it.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...batov-set-for-united-exit-16131099.html?r=RSS
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...batov-set-for-united-exit-16131099.html?r=RSS
It's a strange case...I never wanted Berbatov here, was against signing him. His first season with us was dreadful (but his P R brigade claimed otherwise), his second was decent (but his haters claimed otherwise). His third was really good.
I think that he is a good option to have and i would like him to stay here until his 35-37 (with his style of play it's doable).
I think that he is a good option to have and i would like him to stay here until his 35-37 (with his style of play it's doable).