He had a decent first season, and was justifiably given the nod for some big games in the run-in.
I think he'll always be rotated in and out of the team though.
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He had a decent first season, and was justifiably given the nod for some big games in the run-in.
I think he'll always be rotated in and out of the team though.
And that is exactly the point.
Why not? If we are looking at signing players who play behind the striker (Hazard, Kagawa) then that surely implies the possible change of formation.
Hazard has been the best player in the French League two years running. Pogba...he's been decent for the reserves.
And the loop begins again. Previous page, Orton. No offence.
I dunno. We played that system a few times in the season just gone, despite lacking the attacking midfielder we need to make it really effective. It's also a system that was a big feature of all our most successful recent seasons in Europe, something which was reinforced when we reverted to 442 in the season just gone and had a bit of a horror show.
What is it with this forum and Danny? you give a realistic judgement of his ability and it's as if you've slapped someones mother with a 10lb trout.
If we sign Hazard and/or Kagawa it'll be Danny on the bench, he's still got a lot to prove and needs to up his game. He's a promising young talent but he's not there yet and the fact he's a local lad doesn't change that.
I've explained it on the previous page, Pogue.
Basically, I don't think we'll drop Welbeck/ Hernandez. Put Rooney upfront. We also have more traditional wingers than we did 2007-09 which means we're more suited to a 4-4-2.
feck me chelsea might hire the manager from Juventus who plays 5-3-2 for all we know?
How can Hazard be sure about his future when chelsea arent even sure about there own?
I really do feel we are favourites, we have everything in ground apart from offering more money, but whatever he earns here will be a shitload anyway!.
Plus looking at commercial rights, he will be one of the top earners in the world.
How can Hazard be sure about his future when chelsea arent even sure about there own?
I really do feel we are favourites, we have everything in ground apart from offering more money, but whatever he earns here will be a shitload anyway!.
Plus looking at commercial rights, he will be one of the top earners in the world.
I think that we will do very well with Rooney, Hazard, Nani and Valencia/Young with hazard playing as number 10, it's a more balanced formation that standard 4-4-2 we used this year. Of course that we will have many games and we will change formation many times. Also Hazard would be perfect in a formation like 2007-2009 with him in Ronaldo's role.
Also about dropping welbeck and Hernandez I don't think that will be a big problem. As I said before there are about 60 games in a season and there should be plenty of games for both of them. If we buy Hazard than we will have 7 players (Rooney, Hazard, Welbeck, Chicha, Young, Nani, Valencia) for 4 positions, and this means that both of them will have more than enough games. Not to mention that both of them are young, and neither of them is a world class player who should never be dropped.
I really don't get it, Danny Welbeck is far more impressive than the vast, vast majority of strikers his age. If anything this forum isn't anywhere near excited enough. He's a local lad who's our first choice CF at 21, will probably play up front for England at an international tournament at 21, and has just had a brilliant season.. We should all be going absolutely mad about him.
Anything newsworthy today my fellow muppets?
As an aside, seeing as it's confirmed that City are in for him, how fecked is that?
Offer Arsenal's best player a king's ransom to leave them and not join us last season, barely play him, then try and sign another player in the same position as soon as we express an interest.
That's sugar daddy transfer tactics right there. Treading new ground in the whole financial doping strategy.
Offer Arsenal's best player a king's ransom to leave them and not join us last season, barely play him, then try and sign another player in the same position as soon as we express an interest.
That's sugar daddy transfer tactics right there. Treading new ground in the whole financial doping strategy.
Conte is signing a new deal till 2016
I think it's better to be grounded over him, again my reservations are about his goalscoring ability, not his link up play. 12 goals in all competitions isn't that amazing of a return for playing up front in a team like United's.
Question. If we do sign him, does this mean RedRichio gets banned?
Didn't take him long to blow Arsenal out then.
I think a Rooney and Hazard partnership can easily work. Rooney would be a false number 9 and I'm sure with Nani, Valencia and Young coming in from wide areas then that would be a very fluid attack. Both can play behind Welbeck or Hernandez and that gives a wonderfully interchangeable 4 forwards.
The same can be said if we signed Kagawa instead of Hazard.
In the season in which muppet favourite Fernando Llorente turned 21 he scored four goals.
Like that stopped them signing AVB either.
I know it probably wont be him, but you get my gist.
Everybody wins
I have absolutely no idea how good he is as I don't watch the french league. How does he compare to Mata and Silva? not just in similarities but in ability?
It's shocking but it's also very effective.
Strengthen yourself and stop your competitor from strengthening. At the very least, drive up the cost in fee or wages and hinder your rivals from strengthening elsewhere or make them suffer in the future by pushing up their wage ceiling and the inevitable increase in expectation from their other players.
Chelsea did it very well. We'd have been Champions instead of them if we had got Essien and Robben like we should have I guarantee you that.
Hopefully he can see right through it though.
For all the bitching some United fans have made about this lad already for his media whore ways (two interviews and a question from a journalist answered) the fact he is looking to make a decision on getting the most playing time in the position he is keen to play I'd say that's a commendable attitude. He's not looking at the top dollar and choosing that one.
Depends if we sign him or not.
Or Hazard who scored 22 + 16 assists in a position far deeper than him, or Aguero at the same age scored 21. Welbeck is a fantastic players but his return wasn't good enough. Still I think that he will become much better and will be a great striker but that doesn't mean that we should not drop him if we can get a superior player. Let's face it if welbeck has potential to become as good as Cole, Hazard has potential to become as good as Ronaldo.
Also having good players in different position is a very good thing (even if not all of them start and play every game). That will let us play different tactics, and we all know that the same tactic doesn't win every game.
Hazard did score 6 penalties fwiw.
I don't know what you're deducing this from. He made 30 appearances in the PL (26 starts, 4 subs) for them and played in all 6 games in their CL group (5 starts, 1 sub).
I think the question is where does Fergie see Rooney's position in the future? Rooney can certainly play the role RVP plays at Arsenal (hopefully without limiting his playmaking abilities too much) but where does that leave Welbeck?
If we do continue using Rooney and Welbeck together, are we going to stick with 442? It's hardly the answer to europe/big games. Of course we can always play 442 for the majority league games and 433 in europe as we've done in the past, but does that mean Welbeck will be dropped for these games or are we going to resort to having one of them playing out wide? I'm guessing these are all questions that will be addressed when we consider who we are signing.
If we do continue using Rooney and Welbeck together, are we going to stick with 442? It's hardly the answer to europe/big games. Of course we can always play 442 for the majority league games and 433 in europe as we've done in the past, but does that mean Welbeck will be dropped for these games or are we going to resort to having one of them playing out wide? I'm guessing these are all questions that will be addressed when we consider who we are signing.
That's 12 goals in 27 starts. 0.44 goals per start. Including important goals against big teams and one or two absolute crackers.
In Tevez's best season at United, he averaged 0.45 goals per start. In his final season that dropped to 0.28 goals/start but we had people chanting at Fergie to sign him up when we were supposed to be savouring our league title.
Chabon's right. People should be more excited about Danny, not less. He's out-scoring Tevez, works just as hard as he ever did, is younger and has been at the club since he was a nipper. The fact they're not is very strange can only be down to people being reluctant to admit they're wrong after previously writing him off.
God I hope not.
But people will swear blind it's a 4-4-1-1 even though Rooney offers nothing when he drops deep into midfield.
It's a lose - lose situation.
Let's not forget that Chelsea also has Malouda, De Bruyne and Marin. He will get enough playing time here.
Can't see Malouda sticking around at Chelsea much longer, he's shit.
Chelsea are starting new contract talks with him.
Chelsea just signed Marin this month, I reckon he's coming to us. Hopefully anyway.
Malouda is off this summer.
It's mainly because of how we set up so Rooney has to drop so deep to try and create something. We lack creativity in the final third, sometime to provide that final through ball, or drive through the middle, sometimes Giggs rolls back the years and provides us with it, but not often. We then resort to spreading the ball out wide most the time and whipping in crosses continuously until something happens.
If he ever goes to Man United it'll be funny the reaction of all the poster who have been on Hazard's back for committing himself already to Man United, the members who were staying stuff like he only wants money.
If he chooses another club it'll be even funnier watching the hatred and bitterness go high levels.As long as the transfer fee and wages are sensible I'd love him to be at United and if it doesn't happen so be it
If he chooses another club it'll be even funnier watching the hatred and bitterness go high levels.As long as the transfer fee and wages are sensible I'd love him to be at United and if it doesn't happen so be it
We play in excess of 60 matches most seasons so it's not a problem at all. Rooney and Hazard may well be the first choice pairing in terms of ability but there will be plenty of times when tactically or physically that one of them doesn't play and Welbeck and Hernandez will play instead. Wouldn't be surprised if Welbeck got 30 appearances next season playing with either Rooney or Hazard. Hernandez may suffer though, but should get plenty of time on as a sub.
I'd also put it down to about 90% of this forum not actually being local. There's nothing wrong with that and so on, but it definitely informs the character of the majority on here. To my mind there is nothing in the football as good as this:
KM just answered that above.
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