Shinji Kagawa | Signs for Manchester United

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These go for $9.99, and "100% of the proceeds of this shirt will be donated directly to Japan via The Red Cross!". Makes a good purchase even if he doesn't end up at OT!
 
Why would you buy that regardless of whether he ends up at United or not?
 
I like the name Shinji. He'll do well here.
 
"Kagawa has everything in his game and can become as good as Messi and Ronaldo, provided he continues to work hard," said Nakata.

I doubt it!

Players with greater talent always stand out amongst lesser talented players.

Kagawa > Hazard > Ronaldo/Messi
 
How old is this guy? And how are we going to play him? He's not
Going to kick any of our players out of the side is r, just allows for more options/balance in rotation. Horses for courses etc.

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Really hope he can produce that form for us. Could be a revelation. The Asian markets improving. With our fan base there, it could be handy in the future.
 
Poor lonesome question mark.
 
How old is this guy? And how are we going to play him? He's not
Going to kick any of our players out of the side is r, just allows for more options/balance in rotation. Horses for courses etc.

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He's good enough to put a few players on the bench.

He's 23.

It's not a "horses for courses" signing by any means.

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He plays where Rooney plays, just wondering how we will use him and how it could alter the line ups.

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Assuming for a moment that this deal does go through I'm actual quite interested to see how he would play alongside Hernandez. From what little I have seen of him he looks like he could potentially bring the best out of Hernandez.
 
He plays where Rooney plays, just wondering how we will use him and how it could alter the line ups.

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Lots of options there. Rooney could move further forward. We could go 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 leaving lots of options for Welbeck, Nani, Young, Hernandez, Rooney, Valencia, Kagawa.

Remains to be seen.
 
Returning breifly to the debate that randomly flared up in the now-locked Hazard thread about whether the Bundesliga is as popular globally as the Premier League, here's an interesting quote on Kagawa's motivations for moving:


Jürgen Klopp, the manager at Dortmund, recognised this when he recently said: "We cannot take away Shinji's childhood and his Japanese culture. Where Shinji was born our league means nothing – there is only the English Premier League."
 
In Dortmund's 4-2-3-1 formation, Kagawa plays just off lone-striker Robert Lewandowski. I seem to think though, sometimes, it looks - from his positioning -, he's a second striker.

His strengths are his great close-control and his technique. Until today, I haven't found out whether he's a right or left-footer, seems to do very well with both feet. Kagawa creates and scores, as shown in his statistics - 21 goals in 48 matches.

His understanding and use of space is superb, he's very intelligent and his off-the-ball movement is fine too.

I think it'd be too easy to define him as a #10 or a second striker - he's very versatile, does tend to drift out wide, although he hardly crosses the ball into the box, but does go inside. Not only a very fine player on the ball, he's also a hard-worker off the ball, who works tirelessly to win the ball back once it's lost.

In my opinion, he's class, has the potential to even take his game up a notch and - if used rightly - will be very good addition to our team. Not too sure though, where exactly he will be used. Behind Rooney as secondary striker, out wide or even in a two-man midfield? He'll make us more versatile, which is good - especially in Europe with a 4-5-1 in mind - he can play INSTEAD of Rooney with Hernandez and Welbeck up front. Because, let's be honest, without Rooney, this team has looked hopeless and toothless in the attacking third. I, for one, am excited if we get him, very excited.

Nice to see the opinion of someone who actually knows what the feck they are talking about - from that description, he sounds very much like a young Paul Scholes to me :drool:
 
Rooney is meant to be our best player I don't think playing him out of his preferred position is ideal, still maybe this could happen in the big
Games.
 
Rooney isn't an attacking midfielder. He's a forward who likes to drop deep. He isn't particularly good at that side of his game though, at least in my opinion - his skills as an attacking midfielder are vastly overrated. His first touch is at times abysmal, his passing can be very off the mark, he can disappear in games - I much prefer him further up the pitch with someone else doing that job. The whole nonsense about him being some kind of an attacking midfielder has got ridiculous, he's already been compared to Iniesta and Sneijder. :wenger:
 
Rooney isn't an attacking midfielder. He's a forward who likes to drop deep. He isn't particularly good at that side of his game though, at least in my opinion - his skills as an attacking midfielder are vastly overrated. His first touch is at times abysmal, his passing can be very off the mark, he can disappear in games - I much prefer him further up the pitch with someone else doing that job. The whole nonsense about him being some kind of an attacking midfielder has got ridiculous, he's already been compared to Iniesta and Sneijder. :wenger:

This.
 
Returning breifly to the debate that randomly flared up in the now-locked Hazard thread about whether the Bundesliga is as popular globally as the Premier League, here's an interesting quote on Kagawa's motivations for moving:


Jürgen Klopp, the manager at Dortmund, recognised this when he recently said: "We cannot take away Shinji's childhood and his Japanese culture. Where Shinji was born our league means nothing – there is only the English Premier League."

But no-one in Japan had heard of Ashley Young :smirk:
 
Returning breifly to the debate that randomly flared up in the now-locked Hazard thread about whether the Bundesliga is as popular globally as the Premier League, here's an interesting quote on Kagawa's motivations for moving:


Jürgen Klopp, the manager at Dortmund, recognised this when he recently said: "We cannot take away Shinji's childhood and his Japanese culture. Where Shinji was born our league means nothing – there is only the English Premier League."

I think the Asian market could represent what the South American did for Italy/Spain and continues; though English interest has grown. Japan and probably others have improved dramatically over the years to the point when we go to Asia, they give us a game when we go there on tour. So I think for United, it's going to be a massive market for us in competition with Chelsea and City.

What Klopps said - we've been on the receiving end in the past and so it's nice the shoes on the other foot this time :)
 
Rooney isn't an attacking midfielder. He's a forward who likes to drop deep. He isn't particularly good at that side of his game though, at least in my opinion - his skills as an attacking midfielder are vastly overrated. His first touch is at times abysmal, his passing can be very off the mark, he can disappear in games - I much prefer him further up the pitch with someone else doing that job. The whole nonsense about him being some kind of an attacking midfielder has got ridiculous, he's already been compared to Iniesta and Sneijder. :wenger:

He's a second striker or a deep lying forward. He's not an attacking midfielder just because he plays behind the main striker. Theres a big difference.
 
Rooney isn't an attacking midfielder. He's a forward who likes to drop deep. He isn't particularly good at that side of his game though, at least in my opinion - his skills as an attacking midfielder are vastly overrated. His first touch is at times abysmal, his passing can be very off the mark, he can disappear in games - I much prefer him further up the pitch with someone else doing that job. The whole nonsense about him being some kind of an attacking midfielder has got ridiculous, he's already been compared to Iniesta and Sneijder. :wenger:

Thank you. Fully agree with almost all of this. Rooney's got a very good but not great all-round game, he can bring others into play effectively and he works hard to find space. Over the years he's also become an excellent finisher and a real threat in the air.

He IS good at dropping deep but expecting him to start there and orchestrate our football is misguided. He's first and foremost a striker, he's got a striker's instincts. He can be a deep-lying striker or a centre forward but he's always a striker. It'd be nice to have a creator in that number 10 role.
 
Rooney isn't an attacking midfielder. He's a forward who likes to drop deep. He isn't particularly good at that side of his game though, at least in my opinion - his skills as an attacking midfielder are vastly overrated. His first touch is at times abysmal, his passing can be very off the mark, he can disappear in games - I much prefer him further up the pitch with someone else doing that job. The whole nonsense about him being some kind of an attacking midfielder has got ridiculous, he's already been compared to Iniesta and Sneijder. :wenger:

I agree, but it's a more recent development. Rooney used to be very good in that area, but that side of his game has completely gone to shit in the last 2 or 3 years.
 
He's a second striker or a deep lying forward. He's not an attacking midfielder just because he plays behind the main striker. Theres a big difference.

Indeed. And his set of skills even makes him a better fit to play up front with someone behind him than fulfil a proper attacking midfielder role. He used to play as a main man in the attack and was very productive.

From what I've seen Kagawa is an attacking midfielder similar to Nasri, Silva and perhaps Iniesta. It's a completely different kind of player to Rooney and he'll bring something that I feel we've lacked a lot at times.
 
I agree, but it's a more recent development. Rooney used to be very good in that area, but that side of his game has completely gone to shit in the last 2 or 3 years.

I'd say we simply expected less of him. He's more productive than ever but he's also under more scrutiny than ever before. Just this last season he was expected to be the main creative fulcrum and the main goalscorer as well...

He was more... flashy at the start of his career, with some mazy runs at great pace. That side of the game is gone but he's no less creative than he was in terms of passing, incisiveness. EDIT: and by that I mean he was always very hit and miss in that regard, capable of brilliant things on his day but way too inconsistent.
 
Rooney isn't an attacking midfielder. He's a forward who likes to drop deep. He isn't particularly good at that side of his game though, at least in my opinion - his skills as an attacking midfielder are vastly overrated. His first touch is at times abysmal, his passing can be very off the mark, he can disappear in games - I much prefer him further up the pitch with someone else doing that job. The whole nonsense about him being some kind of an attacking midfielder has got ridiculous, he's already been compared to Iniesta and Sneijder. :wenger:

great post
 
He's so two footed that its almost difficult to tell in his compilation videos. I think it's due to the fact he can dribble with either, not only strike a ball with either.

Excited to see him in a United shirt. He's more or less confirmed to be coming to United now - right?
 
I'm starting to get seriously excited about this transfer, damn muppet fever
 
He's so two footed that its almost difficult to tell in his compilation videos. I think it's due to the fact he can dribble with either, not only strike a ball with either.

Excited to see him in a United shirt. He's more or less confirmed to be coming to United now - right?

Well, Dortmund chiefs seem to be quite open about the whole thing, they don't really keep it secret. Even I started believing that it will happen.
 
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