Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid

Modric's game doesn't rely on speed, I can't see his age being much of a factor.

Same was said about Berbatov, with the idea that he could play for United till 37 thrown about on here.

We're selling him at 31.

Its easy to say it, reality can be very very different
 
The problem is not outbidding and who's got the most money. The problem is the tax rates in Spain are way more benign. Wages is the name of the game and we have to offer substantially more for the player to earn the same net. Furthermore, all sponsor deals are (or should be!) taxed locally as well so income from kit makers, soft drinks, razors, the lot, ends up being more watered down in the UK.

It's an uphill battle if you want to beat the rates from the taxman and there's bugger all a sensible club like ours can realistically do about it.

Spain's maximum tax rate is 52%, the UK maximum tax rate is 50%.

What do footballers pay?
 
Spain's maximum tax rate is 52%, the UK maximum tax rate is 50%.

What do footballers pay?

24% flat rate and only on income originated in Spain (e.g. wages) but not worldwide income (e.g. multinational sponsors but not, say, appearing in ads for a local retailer) which can be argued should be taxed elsewhere, usually the country of origin. No idea what the rates are in Croatia, mind.
 
In short, we have to pay about 50% more in wages to make the net wages equivalent, and then you have to consider sponsorship deals...
 
He is a good player but I think he needs to take a but more responsibility at times. When you watch the likes of Scholes and Pirlo they'll always be available for the pass and it helps defenders and wingers get out of tight situations. Modric often looks too happy to watch on from the centre circle. Its definitely the next step that he needs to take if he really wants to be considered one of the best in the game. Perhaps it could be something our coaches can get out of him if we ever were to sign him.

Sounds like what people used to say about Carrick.
 
24% flat rate and only on income originated in Spain (e.g. wages) but not worldwide income (e.g. multinational sponsors but not, say, appearing in ads for a local retailer) which can be argued should be taxed elsewhere, usually the country of origin. No idea what the rates are in Croatia, mind.

Did this proposed changed not happen then?

Spain New 43% Tax Rate for Footballers


November 2009
The Spanish government plans to raise the tax rate for foreign football players earning more than EUR 600,000 per year.
Currently foreign footballers pay 24% tax under the "Beckham Law" effective from 2002. From 1.1.2010 the new tax rate will rise to 43%. The new tax rate will apply only to new contracts signed by foreign footballers and skilled people from 1.1.2010 onwards.
So far, due to the 24% low tax rate the Spanish football league has been very attractive to foreign top footballers who enjoyed a low tax rate compared to the higher tax rates in other European countries.

And further

http://iberosphere.com/2012/01/spain-soccer-tax-hike-threatens-la-liga-appeal/5194

Has it not changed yet then, or has the proposed change been cancelled?
 
24% flat rate and only on income originated in Spain (e.g. wages) but not worldwide income (e.g. multinational sponsors but not, say, appearing in ads for a local retailer) which can be argued should be taxed elsewhere, usually the country of origin. No idea what the rates are in Croatia, mind.

Not true. The 'Beckham' tax has been capped.

For workers entering Spain on or after January 1 2010, a limit of 600,000 euros per annum applies. If a foreigner working in Spain earns more than E600k, he pays tax at normal rates.
 
Not true. The 'Beckham' tax has been capped.

For workers entering Spain on or after January 1 2010, a limit of 600,000 euros per annum applies. If a foreigner working in Spain earns more than E600k, he pays tax at normal rates.

Has it not changed further that all people in Spain, foreign or otherwise, earning over €600,000 pay at the higher rate? It was proposed anyway.
 
Same was said about Berbatov, with the idea that he could play for United till 37 thrown about on here.

We're selling him at 31.

Its easy to say it, reality can be very very different

Berba's style of play never quite worked out for us for whatever reason, Modric would be much different.
 
Not true. The 'Beckham' tax has been capped.

For workers entering Spain on or after January 1 2010, a limit of 600,000 euros per annum applies. If a foreigner working in Spain earns more than E600k, he pays tax at normal rates.

At the time there was a massive backlash and local councils threw a tantrum as the revenue impact (for the state) was minimal and the political/morale impact of football teams going under and/or turning shit was considered much greater.

I thought it hadn't gone through but (having just had a read through the Spanish media) it appears it did and it is the clubs that have taken the flak. The contracts were expressed in net terms so, as and when contract renewals take place it is the clubs that are having to find the money somewhere to resign the player.

In any case, while not as bad as it used to be, 43% means there is still is a 15% handicap relative to the UK. And the exemption of worldwide income for sponsorship deals remains, which for top targets could mean a million or two a year.
 
Berba's style of play never quite worked out for us for whatever reason, Modric would be much different.

There are no guarantees. People thought he'd be "perfect" for us, we dont know Modric would fare any better. Best not to bank on him playing for us till well into 30s when we simply dont know that he'd be first choice in 3 seasons.
 
At the time there was a massive backlash and local councils threw a tantrum as the revenue impact (for the state) was minimal and the political/morale impact of football teams going under and/or turning shit was considered much greater.

I thought it hadn't gone through but (having just had a read through the Spanish media) it appears it did and it is the clubs that have taken the flak. The contracts were expressed in net terms so, as and when contract renewals take place it is the clubs that are having to find the money somewhere to resign the player.

In any case, while not as bad as it used to be, 43% means there is still is a 15% handicap relative to the UK. And the exemption of worldwide income for sponsorship deals remains, which for top targets could mean a million or two a year.

Is it 43% though? This Spanish accounting firm has it at 54% (57% in Catalonia).
 
For people who think Modric isn't the type of player we need, just watch the match tonight against Spain.

He is probably 1 of only a few who can hold his own against the best midfield in the world.

In possession there pressing is useless. Our ideal target
 
At the time there was a massive backlash and local councils threw a tantrum as the revenue impact (for the state) was minimal and the political/morale impact of football teams going under and/or turning shit was considered much greater.

I thought it hadn't gone through but (having just had a read through the Spanish media) it appears it did and it is the clubs that have taken the flak. The contracts were expressed in net terms so, as and when contract renewals take place it is the clubs that are having to find the money somewhere to resign the player.

In any case, while not as bad as it used to be, 43% means there is still is a 15% handicap relative to the UK. And the exemption of worldwide income for sponsorship deals remains, which for top targets could mean a million or two a year.

This
 
That performance against Spain might well have won Modric a place on Real Madrid's bench.
 
For people who think Modric isn't the type of player we need, just watch the match tonight against Spain.

He is probably 1 of only a few who can hold his own against the best midfield in the world.

In possession there pressing is useless. Our ideal target

Exactly, not one of our midfielders would be able to give a performance like that, can't believe some people wouldn't want him. He'd be a perfect signing for us.
 
Is it 43% though? This Spanish accounting firm has it at 54% (57% in Catalonia).

They are hiking it as of this year indeed. Yet the discussion was about us not being able to compete in the past. Going forward it looks pretty level.

I'm not sure what role "image rights" may have though (it's common to split a players' contract into wages and these, which potentially could be a loophole to exploit).
 
He better not go to Real now! I'd put him on the Heinze scale of Judasness if he did that now after all we've been through together


David, if you're reading, now is the time to find the warchest key
 
Modric won't earn anything for his "image"
David Beckham he is not!:angel:
 
For people who think Modric isn't the type of player we need, just watch the match tonight against Spain.

He is probably 1 of only a few who can hold his own against the best midfield in the world.

In possession there pressing is useless. Our ideal target

Would like to think that our midfielders could make 35 passes with 80% accuracy too.
 
Good performace tonight though looked like he run out of puff, or had cramp later on in match when his attacking runs might have helped unlock spain.Unlucky croatia and goes to show they ain't unbeatable
 
He put in one great cross today apart from that did nothing of note.

He skinned Busquets in he opening minutes as well. As for the later cross in the 2nd half, it was all setup by the move made at midfield to set up the space on the right that led to the cross.
 
He put in one great cross today apart from that did nothing of note.

Same impression I got, although I missed most of the first half so I may have missed what people are going on about.

Edit: no, I didn't see him skin Busquets. That said, I would expect the midfield fulcrum to be less anonymous than he was late in the second half, when most needed.
 
He put in one great cross today apart from that did nothing of note.

Yes that's right, he's worth £15 million at most - we'd be doing Spurs a favour taking him :nervous:

White text, if that wasn't blindingly obvious

Modric won't earn anything for his "image"
David Beckham he is not!:angel:

Isn't Coronation Street world famous?

He better not go to Real now! I'd put him on the Heinze scale of Judasness if he did that now after all we've been through together

:lol:
 
The end of the game the entire croatian team was knackersd, they were toe to toe with Spain for most of the match before about the 70th minute, when they basically ran out of gas and could do nothing but defend. They had quite a few openings in attack led by modric as well.
 
Why are you saying "this" when the figures in that post are incorrect?

:lol: That happens when you take my quick google research as gospel.

It is true though that right now almost all players are either on 24% or 43%. Now when contracts need to be renewed... that will be interesting.