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That's just high-risk flash bollocks. A proper player gets his body in the right position and plays the ball first time into the path of the runner.

non-sense he's controlled a difficult ball and used skill to open up our play. Basically turning a pass which would have compressed our play down that flank into an attack which opened up the entire field.

As for the high risk, great players take risks it's the way that they achieve greatness.
 
True he was ruined by the end of the game but lets not forget he was matching Chelsea's midfield almost single handed. He covered so much ground yesterday and was responsible for so much good play.
He played in the hole in a 4231 so he had less running to do than the two old boys. He was also up against a Chelsea CM of Mikel and Romeu which was complete pants until Ramires gave it some legs,.
 
True he was ruined by the end of the game but lets not forget he was matching Chelsea's midfield almost single handed. He covered so much ground yesterday and was responsible for so much good play.

Not to mention the three assists he produced, people need to give Anderson a break, yes other midfielders can last ninety min's better but I would chance to say they do not cover the ground he does and do not inject the same energy into their play.

'Almost single handed' is a falsehood IMO, Giggs and Fletcher were good too. He did cover a lot of ground though, seemed keen to make a huge impression, and he did.

I think he and the fitness team have a new plan in place to manage his fitness, with regards to injuries and being able to last the full 90. I predict a strong second half of the season from him.
 
Am I the only one that chuckles at that gif and thinks he didn't really mean it the way most fans think, got a bit lucky....
 
non-sense he's controlled a difficult ball and used skill to open up our play. Basically turning a pass which would have compressed our play down that flank into an attack which opened up the entire field.

As for the high risk, great players take risks it's the way that they achieve greatness.
A good player is playing a simple first-time ball into the space for the runner not fecking about with a flick 5 yards into the air.
 
He played in the hole in a 4231 so he had less running to do than the two old boys. He was also up against a Chelsea CM of Mikel and Romeu which was complete pants until Ramires gave it some legs,.

He played in the middle of a three. And if you watch the game again covered Ann immense amount if running.
 
A good player is playing a simple first-time ball into the space for the runner not fecking about with a flick 5 yards into the air.

You sound obsessed with the Spanish style of play, storey. A good player gets the job done no matter how. And I don't see what's wrong with a bit of flair. Not that I'm comparing, but you didn't enjoy watching Ronaldhinio and his bags of tricks?
 
You sound obsessed with the Spanish style of play, storey. A good player gets the job done no matter how. And I don't see what's wrong with a bit of flair. Not that I'm comparing, but you didn't enjoy watching Ronaldhinio and his bags of tricks?




Poor first touch, shit player.




I kid obviously but it's a similar type of logic.
 
Football is a simple game - watch Messi or Xavi.

Ronaldhinio, till he decided to stop caring about football, was better than Xavi anyday. Besides, football is about entertainment for me, and if you can do the same thing whilst entertaining people it's even better.
 
Did you cringe when you saw Zidane do that 360 degree trick? Seriously, I don't see how you can't enjoy this side of football. I know I wouldn't have preferred Rooney's goal against City more had he controlled it and placed it into the net.
 
Rooney had no other choice to score but to do the overhead - as it happens he shinned it and got lucky.

And Zidane?

We just like different things in our football I guess. I like unpredictability and flair (at least in spurts). You look like simplicity and efficiency.
 
It was the only way to do it - see Rooney comment above. Bergkamp was the ultimate keep-it-simple player - most of the good ones are.

Only way to score, and it was certainly 'high risk'. He could have just layed it off and continued, a bit like Anderson in that clip, instead he chose to use a bit of skill to make significant process.

It's not always a bad thing, usually when it comes off, which it did.
 
Only way to score, and it was certainly 'high risk'. He could have just layed it off and continued, a bit like Anderson in that clip, instead he chose to use a bit of skill to make significant process.

It's not always a bad thing, usually when it comes off, which it did.
It's completely different - Anderson could have played the simple cushion ball into space, having the same net effect but less risky and quicker. Bergkamp either does the extraordinary or reduces the move to an vague positional advantage.
 
If an Arsenal player had put that performance in last night you'd still be stroking your cock, Pete.
 
It's completely different - Anderson could have played the simple cushion ball into space, having the same net effect but less risky and quicker. Bergkamp either does the extraordinary or reduces the move to an vague positional advantage.

Cushioned it back to Nani? He'd have to take a touch for that. Look at the way he's receiving the ball on the bounce and with his body facing away from the rest of the players. I think he'd have to take a touch to lay the ball off to anyone, which probably would have led to the Chelsea players getting close and him first having to hold them off.
 
Walcott made that look like mediocre on Tuesday but it was only the league cup which is why no one's wetting themselves. And he lasted 120 mins.

Reading and Chelsea are roughly the same level, so yea, fair comparison.

Walcott. :lol:
 
Even if you hadn't already said you only had half an eye on the match, it'd be more than obvious.
 
It's completely different - Anderson could have played the simple cushion ball into space, having the same net effect but less risky and quicker. Bergkamp either does the extraordinary or reduces the move to an vague positional advantage.

That's true, though I'm not sure Andersons alternative would have exactly the same net affect.

Do you have the same opinion when say a player receives a ball that he can easily bring down and slot past the keeper, but instead volleys it first time and still scores? More high risk, but pulls it off, and same net affect.

I agree that skill that serves a good progressive purpose (which I still think Andersons did by the way) is far better than skill for relatively no reason, but when it works it's fine, better even. Flair, skill and entertainment is good in my book.
 
Chelsea were about Reading level when Anderson was poncing about - as soon as they put on Hazard and Oscar you took him off :lol:.

Yeah because Reading have players of the level of Cahill,Mata,Mikel,Cech. Even the likes of Moses,Sturridge,Bertrand, Romeu would walk into their team.
 
Do you have the same opinion when say a player receives a ball that he can easily bring down and slot past the keeper, but instead volleys it first time and still scores? More high risk, but pulls it off, and same net affect.
When I was about 11 I did one of those and blew it over the bar (we were losing 2-0 and it was about 88 mins). I never did that again. Score the goal.
 
Pete bitching about one of our players against all the evidence. Ando really must have played a good game.

EDIT: Shit player doesn't know football is about keeping it simple. Should just have passed back to the keeper:


Shit player just 'poncing about' with 'high-risk flash bollocks', should have just passed it back to Diaby:

 
Pete.

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