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[CENTER]DDG
Smalling - Vidic - Evans - Buttner
Rafael - Scholes - Cleverley - Welbeck
Kagawa
Hernandez
[/CENTER]West Ham vs Manchester United
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Rafael as our box-to-box midfielder? 
I hope its a 5 at the back.
West ham will be pretty up for it with this being a home game so it will be tough for us if we are going to line up with no ball winner in midfield and just two center backs.
West ham will be pretty up for it with this being a home game so it will be tough for us if we are going to line up with no ball winner in midfield and just two center backs.
'Anything Messi can do, Joe can do as well, if not better'.
Maybe it's a diamond with Rafael in a midfield role?
A lot of responsibility on Cleverley there.
So Allardyce will look to disrupt that and then target either full back but particularly Buttner.
Stronger line up than I expected.
Looks like Rafael will play from the wing. Will be interesting if it's Kagawa or Welbeck who starts on the left side, I'd like to see Kagawa given an extended run there to see how he does.
Looks like Rafael will play from the wing. Will be interesting if it's Kagawa or Welbeck who starts on the left side, I'd like to see Kagawa given an extended run there to see how he does.
I remember the time we tried Evra on the left wing...everyone turned on him until he went back to left back.
If Rafael does happen to play as an out and out winger, hopefully it works out as intended.
If Rafael does happen to play as an out and out winger, hopefully it works out as intended.
Becks is there.... with James Cordon
Hope it's 3 at the back.
Joe Cole.
Why, what's he done? What's happened?
Potts, is that a youngster for Hammers?
I was thinking the other day it would be interesting to see Evans as a d/m, just in front of the defence, got the technique and range for it, so could be him there or a 352 with wingbacks. Could simply be a 442 with raf wide but would be nice to see it with Evans in dm, plus I think scholes and clev arrant a great duo together and would benefit from an extra guy in there.
Average positions are likely to be something like this
de Gea
---Smalling - Evans - Vidic -------
--------------------------------------- Buttner
----------Rafael ----------------Scholes ------------------
Cleverley--------------
------------------------------- Kagawa
-----------Welbeck
Hernandez -----------
de Gea
---Smalling - Evans - Vidic -------
--------------------------------------- Buttner
----------Rafael ----------------Scholes ------------------
Cleverley--------------
------------------------------- Kagawa
-----------Welbeck
Hernandez -----------
He exists.
West Ham without Diame, Noble, Reid, O'Brien of their usual starting eleven.
Love this line-up, even if it is classic 'tactical anarchy' from SAF. It's a lopsided 442 (with Welbeck playing inside forward and Rafael as a proper winger. Or you could describe the same formation as a 4231, but I see Cleverley pushing quite far forward if given the opportunity. And Rafael will probably be a touch conservative to be thought of as part of the 3 of a 4231. So lopsided 442 is probably the best description. Whatever it is, I like it!
More sexy link-up play between Danny, Tom and Shinji please!
More sexy link-up play between Danny, Tom and Shinji please!
He'd call them all Andy Cole
Yeah I'd say that's about right, maybe with Welbeck dropping a bit deeper to help in midfield and I think Rafael will spend a lot of the game further up field.
I'm excited for this, should be a good game.
We may see Welbeck forced to drop wide a lot, and Kagawa coming central to get involved more, and Cleverley pushing up a bit higher if we're playing well (no small 'if', Allardyce knows how to make it hard for big teams.) But basically, agreed.
Has Fletcher suffered a relapse?
They said they'd see how the pitch was with Fletcher.
Sir Alex said something about the pitches being too heavy for him...which one would translate to "he isn't fit enough to play"...shame really.
DDG
Smalling-Vidic-Evans-Buttner
Scholes-Cleverley
Rafael-Kagawa-Welbeck
Chicharito
Smalling-Vidic-Evans-Buttner
Scholes-Cleverley
Rafael-Kagawa-Welbeck
Chicharito
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This is maybe a stronger squad than I was expecting.
Yeah, a shame, would've been a perfect game for him in my opinion.
That's the one burrows.
It's made it impossible to predict though, so I'll be leaving most of my money off this one.
It's impossible to know how we will line up these days, could be a 4-2-3-1 with Rafael as a conservative winger but that selection could play a proper 3 at the back, which seems to be the fashion these days.
Wouldn't mind us trying that out, with Kagawa behind Welbeck and Chich.
Wouldn't mind us trying that out, with Kagawa behind Welbeck and Chich.
Real test for clev today I reckon depending on how we line up in the middle, if its just him and scholes he'll have to adapt his game or we'll be more open than usual in the middle.
Not too sure about that midfield. Is it the smallest, most physically unimposing midfield we have ever put out? If not it can't be far off.
Don't know what type of team WHam are putting out, but let's hope they don't have anyone who likes to carry the ball through the centre!!
Fingers crossed, but personally i would have liked to see someone with a bit more strength in the midfield alongside Clev, possibly Jones rather than Scholes. Scholes better off coming on late, than starting nowadays.
Don't know what type of team WHam are putting out, but let's hope they don't have anyone who likes to carry the ball through the centre!!
Fingers crossed, but personally i would have liked to see someone with a bit more strength in the midfield alongside Clev, possibly Jones rather than Scholes. Scholes better off coming on late, than starting nowadays.
Haven't heard that excuse before, are we supposed to believe that?
Didn't know it has been six years since a new surface. Seems like yesterday when it was replaced every bloody month.
Subs??
Any concerns about the defensive capability of Scholes in an XI like that? Cleverley will have to be mindful of of not being too cavalier IMO.
feck off Wynalda.
WHam!: Jaaskelainen; Demel, Collins, Tomkins, Potts; Diarra, Collison; Vaz Te, Nolan, J Cole; C Cole.
Subs: Spiegel, Reid, Jarvis, Taylor, Noble, Spence, E. Lee
Subs: Spiegel, Reid, Jarvis, Taylor, Noble, Spence, E. Lee
Yeah agree with that. If it is the line up most are guessing then Kagawa, Clev, Scholes is pretty lightweight, might struggle against Diame if he plays.