Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!

elisha27 said:
Just came looking for the Bale thread to make this observation.

Bale, increasingly, is developing into Ronaldo. The overly-built physique, the raw power, speed and directness, and the shoot on sight policy. Neither are what I'd call naturally gifted or subtle players, more the product of being supreme athletes with a dedication to practice and perfection, yielding a machine-like quality on the pitch. I wouldn't say Bale is worse in every way either - they are pretty close. Ronaldo is probably more clinical right now, but Bale seems to have slightly more variety in his game.
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Agree with all this. He is machine like, extremely efficient in everything he does. Like Ronaldo he can pick the ball up anywhere on the pitch and somehow create a shooting chance for himself. Bale was one of many good players at Spurs over the past 2 seasons, but now he is by a distance their stand out player. He is the man they look to when it isn't going their way.

He's clearly practiced in training in using his right foot more and he is not a completely left footed players these days, he can score with his right and even put in decent crosses with it.

He's now a top class player in his own right and if he is "copying" Ronaldo with his dedication to improving and his fitness and adding more quality to his game, then what exactly is wrong with that?
 
shaggy said:
It's a good squad, but lack of star quality really apart from Bale. I think 4th will go down right to the wire, with Arsenal edging it over Spurs. Arsenal's remaining fixtures look OK, with us at home and spurs away comfortably the hardest games. Spurs have still got Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Man City.
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Right down to the wire with Arsenal sounds right to me, but I'm going to give Spurs the edge over Arsenal to nail down that fourth spot.

Bale is a monster. A shame we didn't go all in for him when there appeared to be a window of opportunity to do so.
 
I quite like Spurs, but I really want them to drop down the table for the sole reason that it means it might be somewhat possible to buy Bale.

He is the real deal, and of all the left sided players in Europe that are possible to buy (so no Messi then), he's probably the best suited to us.
 
adexkola said:
Ok. Slightly above then. But none of this nonsense about 2 levels above Walcott, whose numbers have been excellent this season.
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I think he's miles better than Walcott. He's got stacks more to his game than Walcott has, or ever will have. Walcott's had a good season in terms of scoring, but he is now playing up front, so that would be expected. If you asked any sane football fan who they would have out of the 2, it would be a landslide poll.

I highly doubt Walcott will ever play for a bigger club than Arsenal, whereas Bale is clearly destined for an elite club like Madrid in probably one of the biggest transfer fees of all time.
 
That was a great goal tbh, even in the first he had a similar effort that Foster saved.Bale has reached a new level this season, this freedom (despite struggling with it at first) has helped him improved as a player
 
kouroux said:
That was a great goal tbh, even in the first he had a similar effort that Foster saved.Bale has reached a new level this season, this freedom (despite struggling with it at first) has helped him improved as a player
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He's copying RVP with that sort of shooting. He's a fraud.
 
How can he be a couple of levels above Walcott when Walcott's is even more productive?

The media simply select their favourites and everybody buys into it. Hence the reason Scott Parker was actually made out to be some kind of good footballer
 
peterstorey said:
That's just rubbish, I'd say Walcott is more consistent particularly in the big games.
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Walcott can go through entire games looking like one of the worst players in the league, that's never the case with Bale. He can be kept quiet but he won't ruin attack after attack like your boy. You yourself said one game he's Henry the next he's completely non-existent, there's no rhyme or rhythm to it. That hasn't changed this season from what I've seen. He's probably better in the big games but then he's got Wilshere, Cazorla and co. attracting the opposition's attention rather than Dempsey, Dembele and co.

Snake Plissken said:
How can he be a couple of levels above Walcott when Walcott's is even more productive?

The media simply select their favourites and everybody buys into it. Hence the reason Scott Parker was actually made out to be some kind of good footballer
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Yes, we're all incapable of judging players on their own merits unlike you, football guru Snake Plissken.
 
Stats dont tell everything though. Bale's currently the better player and unless things change a lot, will end up comfortably better than walcott and will have a better career.
 
People are seriously comparing Bale to Walcott? feck me.

Bale is on a different level all together. He's a player I'd happily have us bid big for too, in the region of 35-40 million if that's what it took. Absolute outstanding player.
 
Brwned said:
Walcott can go through entire games looking like one of the worst players in the league, that's never the case with Bale.
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Bale is exactly the same - he didn't get a kick against a 19-year-old fullback at Leeds the other week (and wasted good possession into the bargain with Hollywood shots into the crowd). He's got one league assist this season.
 
Brwned said:
Walcott can go through entire games looking like one of the worst players in the league, that's never the case with Bale. He can be kept quiet but he won't ruin attack after attack like your boy. You yourself said one game he's Henry the next he's completely non-existent, there's no rhyme or rhythm to it. That hasn't changed this season from what I've seen. He's probably better in the big games but then he's got Wilshere, Cazorla and co. attracting the opposition's attention rather than Dempsey, Dembele and co.



Yes, we're all incapable of judging players on their own merits unlike you, football guru Snake Plissken.
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I'm guessing the smart ass remark means 'aahhh eeehhh uuugggh I don't know' ?
 
Bale is better than Walcott. Walcott posts good numbers but no way in hell would I chose Walcott over Bales for United, never in a billion years. Bale can become top 10 in the world, whereas Walcott cannot.
 
Walcott is not on the same level to Bale.

If your team doesn't pass, tackle, dribble, intercept and head the ball enough, you will get slaughtered in every game. This is why players aren't judged simply on one or two stats and why Rooney is rated miles better than someone like Darren Bent.

Bale has made 21 tackles to Walcotts 10. He's made 31 interceptions to Walcotts 6. He's made 43 clearances, to Walcotts 4. Bale has made more than double the amount of passes, more than double the amount of crosses. Bale makes more dribbles. Bale has made 86 aerial challenges, compared to Walcotts 18.

Basically though they might line up in a similar position on the team sheet, there is little comparison in what they actually bring to the team. Bale offers so much more and his role is much greater. The scale of difference really is as great as between Rooney and Defoe or Bent.
 
I think Bale will get injured soon, AVB never seem to rest him and a player like him can easily get problems. They need to be careful with him.
 
redmeister said:
Walcott is not on the same level to Bale.

If your team doesn't pass, tackle, dribble, intercept and head the ball enough, you will get slaughtered in every game. This is why players aren't judged simply on one or two stats and why Rooney is rated miles better than someone like Darren Bent.

Bale has made 21 tackles to Walcotts 10. He's made 31 interceptions to Walcotts 6. He's made 43 clearances, to Walcotts 4. Bale has made more than double the amount of passes, more than double the amount of crosses. Bale makes more dribbles. Bale has made 86 aerial challenges, compared to Walcotts 18.

Basically though they might line up in a similar position on the team sheet, there is little comparison in what they actually bring to the team. Bale offers so much more and his role is much greater. The scale of difference really is as great as between Rooney and Defoe or Bent.
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And 1/7 the number of assists in the league and 10x the number of dives.
 
Have to say, Bale's improvement has impressed me. His antics on the other hand.... Ronaldo free-kick stance :rolleyes: That's what little kids do copying their hero. Not a grown man.
 
Platato said:
Have to say, Bale's improvement has impressed me. His antics on the other hand.... Ronaldo free-kick stance :rolleyes: That's what little kids do copying their hero. Not a grown man.
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Not got a problem with him trying to emulate someone he looks up to. Many GK who look up to PS try the star fish save. Don't see the difference to be honest.
 
Platato said:
Have to say, Bale's improvement has impressed me. His antics on the other hand.... Ronaldo free-kick stance :rolleyes: That's what little kids do copying their hero. Not a grown man.
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You can tell Ronaldo has him all loved up. But he's not the first, how many players have copied Ronaldo's stance and technique.
 
elisha27 said:
Just came looking for the Bale thread to make this observation.

Bale, increasingly, is developing into Ronaldo. The overly-built physique, the raw power, speed and directness, and the shoot on sight policy. Neither are what I'd call naturally gifted or subtle players, more the product of being supreme athletes with a dedication to practice and perfection, yielding a machine-like quality on the pitch. I wouldn't say Bale is worse in every way either - they are pretty close. Ronaldo is probably more clinical right now, but Bale seems to have slightly more variety in his game.
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:nono::nono:. Ronaldo is gifted whether he trained all day to get that way or not.
 
Ronnie O'Sullivan said:
It's just a matter of time before Madrid makes that 60m quid offer for Bale. Can you imagine Ronaldo and Bale on opposite wings?
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Bale would probably have to play on the right, but he's proved he's good on his right foot if he's staying out wide and he has also proved he can come inside and affect the game. I just think he is destined for that wide Bernabeu pitch, I could see him there. Real are already the best counter attacking team in Europe, and with him on one side and Ronaldo on the other they would be completely devastating on the counter attack.
 
peterstorey said:
And 1/7 the number of assists in the league and 10x the number of dives.
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Assists are dependent on other players in your team finishing off the chances you create.

Bale actually creates 2.3 chances per game, compared to Walcotts 1. So he's more than twice as effective at what you see as one of Walcotts strong points.

Bale can't be blamed for Spurs poor finishing. Take today for example, he played come lovely crosses across the box and not one Spurs player attacked them. It's not just his assist stats that are effected by Spurs poor attack in the box, but his chances created stats. Bale does have good chance creation stats (as mentioned more than double Walcotts), but is he was playing for us, he'd have Rooney and RVP to supply, so would probably be top of both chances created and assists made.
 
Lawman said:
Not got a problem with him trying to emulate someone he looks up to. Many GK who look up to PS try the star fish save. Don't see the difference to be honest.
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He just takes it to another level. Even the goal celebrations. Does he have a Ronaldo shrine in his home?

I understand looking up to another player, I just find what Bale does unnecessary.
 
redmeister said:
Assists are dependent on other players in your team finishing off the chances you create.

Bale actually creates 2.3 chances per game, compared to Walcotts 1. So he's more than twice as effective at what you see as one of Walcotts strong points.

Bale can't be blamed for Spurs poor finishing. Take today for example, he played come lovely crosses across the box and not one Spurs player attacked them. It's not just his assist stats that are effected by Spurs poor attack in the box, but his chances created stats. Bale does have good chance creation stats (as mentioned more than double Walcotts), but is he was playing for us, he'd have Rooney and RVP to supply, so would probably be top of both chances created and assists made.
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You're just mining more and more rubbish numbers, It's not a chance - despite dumb ex-players oohing and aahing - when a player crosses it to where his team mates aren't. It's not a 'lovely' cross in football terms if it sails past everybody harmlessly.
 
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