Film The Movies I want to see thread

I will watch both, I am maybe the only person on here that likes Cage.
Insidious 2 , looks OK, The first one was decent enough.

Woah woah woah! Dont get me started on how big Nic Cage fan I am! Insidious 1 also had an average trailer but the film was really good (until the final act). Hopefully this one is even better.
 
You're not alone pauldyson.
 
Nah it's shit like most exorcism movies, unfortunately.

An Iron Man 3 is shit like most movies about iron.

Agree Insidious was a bit of a let-down in the second half, thought the first half was top notch haunted house stuff, done really well and pretty frightening. From the trailer, it looks like the second one is going to be the same movie (slow build up in the first half, medium shite in the second part).
 
Has anyone posted this as yet?



Done by the guy who did District 9, and you might recognise good old Vikus van Der Merwe as the bearded bad marine-looking guy.

And for xbox/halo players you might recognise one massive similarity.
 
Yeah it looks like it. First Scorcese/Di Caprio thing I've been excited by in a while. I personally think almost all their stuff is overrated. Don't even get me started on the fecking Departed!



Looks meh.
 
Yeah it looks like it. First Scorcese/Di Caprio thing I've been excited by in a while. I personally think almost all their stuff is overrated. Don't even get me started on the fecking Departed!

Since Gangs of NY which was a mess of a film (and which Di Caprio was dreadfully miscast in), they've done Aviator, Departed and Shutter Island. While I understand the criticism The Departed gets amongst film buffs, I think Aviator and Shutter Island are rated as they should, I certainly don't feel they're overrated. They're well directed films with good performances by Di Caprio in both, whether you like them or not, I think. Gangs of NY is widely recognized as a mess (which Scorsese agrees with, and which is probably why they'll make the TV series of it), and Di Caprio's performance in it was strongly criticized. That leaves The Departed which was a generally well received film (by all those who hadn't seen the Asian original film) that gets what I consider to be an unfair amount of flak from film fans (though I understand the reasoning) because it's too much of a copy of the initial film. I don't feel what they've done together is specially overrated though.
 
Posts like that always make me feel like RIP has a healthy attitude towards the medium.

(S)he understands very well the in's and out's and technicalities of that kind of storytelling.

FWIW I read the Wolf script about a year back.
 
Since Gangs of NY which was a mess of a film (and which Di Caprio was dreadfully miscast in), they've done Aviator, Departed and Shutter Island. While I understand the criticism The Departed gets amongst film buffs, I think Aviator and Shutter Island are rated as they should, I certainly don't feel they're overrated. They're well directed films with good performances by Di Caprio in both, whether you like them or not, I think.

The Aviator is the best of their films for me personally. And it's a good film, but not quite the 11 times Oscar nominee it was. in THAT respect it's overrated. But it's still pretty good, if boring the 2nd time through.

Shutter Island I just didn't take to, and felt it was an average B-Movie noir made by very successful people. It wasn't awful though.

The Departed though, I hate. And while that's probably largely because of my love for IA, by any measure it wasn't an Oscar winning script or direction. Thus easily overrated for me.

because it's too much of a copy of the initial film. I don't feel what they've done together is specially overrated though.


It's not that at all. The problem with the Departed was not that it copied the original too much, but that it managed to feck up all the important motifs and characterisation from the original despite being longer and made for more money by more talented people. I can't forgive it for that. Yes all the good things were copied from the original, which diminishes it's achievement at bit, but it's real sins were things like making Damon a cardboard cut out villan (when he's arguably the stronger character in IA) inserting Mark Wahlberg and thus removing the importance of Sheen's characters death, and losing all trace of the envy that built up between the two leads for living the lives the other wanted, encapsulated in it's poignant ending, replaced in Departed by an insanely stupid rat metaphor (Walhberg again!)
 
Has anyone posted this as yet?



Done by the guy who did District 9, and you might recognise good old Vikus van Der Merwe as the bearded bad marine-looking guy.

And for xbox/halo players you might recognise one massive similarity.


Yeah did a few pages back it's the SciFi I'm most interested in this year. I've read the script for it and it''s stunning.
 
Is it worth the read? I'm thinking about buying the book, haven't got anything to read at the moment.

Personally I was underwhelmed.

The narration, especially in the early going, is absolutely top-notch, full of wit and energy, but the story itself is very plain. Very weak ending.

Long story short, at the end of the read I understood why DiCaprio had this script for ten years at his production house and no big shop in town would touch it despite his involvement.

(For one thing, it's a pretty hard R - no doubt Mr. Scorsese has found creative ways around this, since otherwise it'd top out at $50 mill domestic and maybe double that in the rest of the world.)

McConaughey in the draft I read - which was a shooting draft - is in it for about three minutes. His character had one scene. (I don't think it's a spoiler since it's very early on in the movie and they might have expanded the role)

The current producers are newcomers, splashing the cash City-style in order to announce their arrival. Not a knock on their abilities at all - but everyone knows what they're doing here. (They threw enough cash at Scorsese that he breached his Silence contract and got sued by that film's producers) Make of that what you will. 175 million budget, 90-day shoot (including reshoots).
 
"(by all those who hadn't seen the Asian original film)"

tbf, that was an incredibly small group of people before Departed came out, and quite a few actually liked The Departed(though I'm mainly just going by my days back on joblo here)....The Departed just hasn't aged very well, at all. Be in the success it didn't really deserve, that the original has now been seen by plenty afterwards or just people opening up to it flaws a bit more and ignoring the stellar names all over it. I don't mind it. But I don't like Shutter Island/Gangs of New York in the slightest. Aviator is decent though. I think it's more a DiCaprio thing though, he's alrite and all, but he gets some oddly overblown hype when he's not really all that. Gilbert Grape is probably still his best performance......I'm always interested in his films though, he mostly picks good films to work in, and that's half the battle, a great writer/director combo could probably get Lindsay Lohen a nomination.
 
The Aviator is the best of their films for me personally. And it's a good film, but not quite the 11 times Oscar nominee it was. in THAT respect it's overrated. But it's still pretty good, if boring the 2nd time through.

Shutter Island I just didn't take to, and felt it was an average B-Movie noir made by very successful people. It wasn't awful though.

The Departed though, I hate. And while that's probably largely because of my love for IA, by any measure it wasn't an Oscar winning script or direction. Thus easily overrated for me.

It's not that at all. The problem with the Departed was not that it copied the original too much, but that it managed to feck up all the important motifs and characterisation from the original despite being longer and made for more money by more talented people. I can't forgive it for that. Yes all the good things were copied from the original, which diminishes it's achievement at bit, but it's real sins were things like making Damon a cardboard cut out villan (when he's arguably the stronger character in IA) inserting Mark Wahlberg and thus removing the importance of Sheen's characters death, and losing all trace of the envy that built up between the two leads for living the lives the other wanted, encapsulated in it's poignant ending, replaced in Departed by an insanely stupid rat metaphor (Walhberg again!)

I actually probably agree that Aviator is their best, I think it's a brilliant film. As for the Oscar nominations, surely you're not basing how a film is rated on the number of Oscars or Oscar nominations, it's such a flawed system!

I also have a soft spot for Shutter Island, I love the style, the performances, the music, the cinematography and I love the fact that you can watch it a second time around knowing the end and almost every conversation has another meaning. It's a well crafted film, imperfect at times and a bit overblown, but I really don't think it was average. But it's very subjective, of course.

As for Departed, it might not have been the problem for you, but I assure you loads of people had an instant disapproval of the film "because the Asian one is better, you should watch that one, this is just a copy blablabla". It might be sad that for an Occidental public any Asian film needs to be remade to our standards, I'd agree to that, but I don't necessarily agree with your analysis of the film. I think the build up between the two characters and how one is suffering because of making the right choice (Di Caprio's performance is great in this I think, you see him deteriorate and become crazy as the film goes on) is pretty well done, and you get a few laughs from the dialogue which is tailored for Nicholson, Winstone, Sheen, Baldwin and Wahlberg for large parts.

I just don't understand how you can hate such a film. It may not be as subtle or intricate as the source material (I don't even especially buy into that opinion, but whatever), but there's a lot to like and it's not as flawed a film as many (especially on this board) make it out to be. It honestly baffles me.

tbf, that was an incredibly small group of people before Departed came out, and quite a few actually liked The Departed(though I'm mainly just going by my days back on joblo here)....The Departed just hasn't aged very well, at all. Be in the success it didn't really deserve, that the original has now been seen by plenty afterwards or just people opening up to it flaws a bit more and ignoring the stellar names all over it. I don't mind it. But I don't like Shutter Island/Gangs of New York in the slightest. Aviator is decent though. I think it's more a DiCaprio thing though, he's alrite and all, but he gets some oddly overblown hype when he's not really all that. Gilbert Grape is probably still his best performance......I'm always interested in his films though, he mostly picks good films to work in, and that's half the battle, a great writer/director combo could probably get Lindsay Lohen a nomination.

I don't agree at all about the DiCaprio analysis. I think he's been growing as an actor during the last few years (and I think Scorsese isn't a stranger to this evolution) and has established himself as a true great, capable of working in a wide variety of roles. I agree he chooses good projects, which doesn't necessarily means he's a good actor, that's true, but I think he's given a few performances that were praise worthy during the last few years, and hardly any where he was poor. I think he was very good to excellent in Gilbert Grape all those years ago, Romeo + Juliette, Aviator, Departed, Shutter Island, Django and Gatsby, and that he was decent and did his job well in Inception (actually, I think he doesn't get enough credit for his role in Inception because it's a mega blockbuster and so on, I think he's very good in it), Blood Diamond, Body of Lies (even though it wasn't a great film). J. Edgar, I don't really know what to think of it, I think it's a pretty poor film where Eastwood wasn't subtle enough with the defining traits of the character, and even though I didn't feel DiCaprio fecked up the part, I wasn't quite convinced. But it might have been because I disliked the film so much.
 
I also have a soft spot for Shutter Island, I love the style, the performances, the music, the cinematography and I love the fact that you can watch it a second time around knowing the end and almost every conversation has another meaning. It's a well crafted film, imperfect at times and a bit overblown, but I really don't think it was average. But it's very subjective, of course.

There was a point where I did a film marathon that coincidentally saw me watch about 5 films that all ended with the same"the main character was schizophrenic and it was him all along" twist. As a consequence, I hate almost all films that end like this.

A lot hinges on that tbf. So if you liked it, chances are you like the film & vice versa.

I just don't understand how you can hate such a film. It may not be as subtle or intricate as the source material (I don't even especially buy into that opinion, but whatever), but there's a lot to like and it's not as flawed a film as many (especially on this board) make it out to be. It honestly baffles me.

I did a big, point filled rant on all it's failings and bullshit ages back. I was trying to find it but I couldn't, so I'll just say I hated it and I'm right.
 
I did a big, point filled rant on all it's failings and bullshit ages back. I was trying to find it but I couldn't, so I'll just say I hated it and I'm right.

:lol:

I know it's a film that's debated now and again on this board, and I know I've already been in the middle of a hate induced discussion in the other thread, I think I read something you'd written about it. It may not have been the rant you're referring to, but then again you go on so many rants Mockers!
 
There is going to be a Taken 3 :lol:

Liam Neeson really shouldn't let his family go anywhere... unless they're branching out to extended family?? GIVE ME BACK MY SECOND COUSIN!

After the abortion that was Taken 2, I'm not bothered about seeing it, but I think the fact that they've got 3 films out of what clearly was a 1 film idea is brilliant.
 
Neeson actually took a lot of convincing to do part two, and then ruled out the possibility of a third. He must be getting paid shit loads.
 
£20 Million apparently... most he's ever got for a film.

That's only £5mil less then the entire budget for The Grey.
 
The Grey had a 25 million budget! What a waste of money!

The Grey was a pretty decent film I thought! The first half of it especially was very good.

I'd go further then pretty decent - I'd say it was pretty great! In terms of Survival Horror, it was everything you'd want - and it has some great character moments and set-peices to elevate it above and beyond that. Also, the sound and editing in the film are terrific.