There's absolutely feck all in this IMO. All of these Bale, Modric, Ronaldo ect. rumours were always going to come out after SSN announced that there could be a signing from us soon. They are all just stabs in the dark.
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Ronaldo maybe, Fabregas I doubt it.
We've got more chance of signing Ronaldo or Bale then the Fab
Levy's shit. He's failed to buy a decent striker for numerous transfer windows now, and seems to think that as long as they're linked to Damiao then the fans will be happy. He then haggled the Modric price with Real to the point that they didn't have time to process the Moutinho transfer.
Regarding Bale I can't help but think he's destined for us. He's the one player who would be absolutely perfect for us; young, immensely talented, can play as a winger or has the ability to come inside and has the drive and confidence to become a great player here.
Regarding Bale I can't help but think he's destined for us. He's the one player who would be absolutely perfect for us; young, immensely talented, can play as a winger or has the ability to come inside and has the drive and confidence to become a great player here.
100%. There's just too much bad blood to imagine we can do a deal for Bale, as you imply.
Not in normal conditions, but we are anythign but normal right now. I'll spell it out for you in case it is not clear: we have a stormy semester ahead, hopefully not year, but definitely semester. Nothing gets the media as excited as topics which everyone is passionate about and whether Moyes is the right man, whether it is the end of us post-Fergie, etc. is liquid gold for them. Unless we go on an unbeaten run from the off (about 0% chance of that happening) we will be in a shitstorm and an expensive transfer only adds fuel to the flames. There will be a lot of pressure on Moyes, which is fine as it was expected, but also any high profile big money signings will be under ridiculous pressure to hit the ground running straight off the bat. Fabregas at 35M wouldn't invite much pressure, Ronaldo would shake it off, but Bale at 60M+ could struggle.
Personally I believe that one of the following will be true:
- Our signing Fabregas is more likely than our signing either Ronaldo or Bale
- Our signing Ronaldo is more likely than our signing either Bale or Fabregas
- Our signing Bale is more likely than our signing Fabregas or Ronaldo
- None of the above
Yours is the wisest comment in this thread.
MUFC aren't going to be signing Bale, so if the manager has any sense he'll brief the press pronto and knock all this on its head before it turns into yet another "Moyes fecks up again" story.
Why? He's clearly too good for Spurs.
Glaston believes that if you say it enough times, it will come true.
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See it's not happening
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See it's not happening
I've already given several, inter-locking reasons and I can't be arsed to rehearse them all again. But in a nutshell Levy, the manager and the club have way too much riding on the player - and not just on a footballing level - to even begin to consider selling this summer. It just won't happen.
Give it up mate, Man Utd are under new management and making arses of themselves chasing players they have no chance of getting.
Glaston believes that if you say it enough times, it will come true.
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See it's not happening
I haven't said you won't bid for Bale ..... for all I know your new club management may just be daft enough to open themselves to further rejection and embarrassment.
I kind of hope that we get both Bale and Fabregas more to see Glaston and Pete's reaction than anything else.
Has Higuain made his debut yet?
It would be nice if MUTV would issue an interview with RVP, Carrick, Bale and Fab about their experience in one of our feeders clubs.
Nice to see Spurs and Arsenal fans showing solidarity. Both of them know how it feels to lose their best player to United, therefore it's good that both are their for each other.
There's no chance Spurs will sell to us. We all know it. Unless we were trying to buy Adebayor, or Parker, or someone equally shit.
You cant blame their players can't you? I mean when was the last time Arsenal and Tottenham had won the CL?
You may be disappointed. Pete would match Grinner in looking like a Cheshire cat seeing as 4th would be nailed without a ball being kicked.
Same things were said about Berba. If the price is right, Spurs will sell. No point in keeping an unhappy player on board.
Even if they were willing, Real Madrid would just come in and outbid us anyway. There's really no point in trying to get Bale; he'll probably stay at Spurs for the 2013/14 season and then feck off to Spain.
Yes, I agree with you, except for the last one. I would change it to
[*]None of the below
[*]Our signing Bale is more likely than our signing Fabregas or Ronaldo
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Don't even say that in jest
But you'd be happy with Adebayor!? Shame on you Colin.
It all depends on whether Bale prefers La Liga to the EPL in the first place. Moving to a different culture and football mentality is a daunting experience for many players.
Not a hope in hell Spurs will sell GB. Another speculation, bullshit story that will no doubt drag on all summer. If United are interested in GB, it will take a lot more than the 60M being banded around at the moment.
You need to rehearse more.
So you reckon Bales gonna join Swansea then?
Seriously though, i reckon that any massive money thats gonna be spent will have to be done this season or next, & next season is cuttin it fine with that whole FFB AVB JCB lark coming into effect. So maybe selling clubs might just have a think to themselves that its best to cash in now for the mental bucks, because next year rich clubs wont be able to spend £50-£80m+ on one player!
Bayern added Thiago and Goetze to a CL winning squad.. two of the best young talents in football, we can't afford to have the likes of Valencia stinking up the place like last season, we need to invest in serious quality. Its like an arms race across europe at the moment, all the big hitters have made some seriously good signings... Barca added Neymar and if they get Thiago Silva too, then bloody hell we need to pull our fingers out big time.
So you reckon Bales gonna join Swansea then?
Don't be stupid......You are stupid you big stupid.
He's going to Cardiff......lure of the Capitol and all that
Every players has a price. No way in hell we would sell Ronaldo, oh wait..
Just think of the challenges Spurs face over the next 4-8 years.
Realistically they're going to need a new stadium to make that next big step up from outside the top 4 to inside the top 4 on a regular basis. And they're also want to avoid the Arsenal route of regressing during this period due to not being able to invest in the first team. For Arsenal that meant dropping from 1st/2nd to 3rd/4th, to Spurs it may mean from 4th/5th to 6th/7th or further.
Good luck with finding the funds to do that as well as passing by an opportunity to get £60m + on a single asset through sheer determination not to sell.
Realistically they're going to need a new stadium to make that next big step up from outside the top 4 to inside the top 4 on a regular basis. And they're also want to avoid the Arsenal route of regressing during this period due to not being able to invest in the first team. For Arsenal that meant dropping from 1st/2nd to 3rd/4th, to Spurs it may mean from 4th/5th to 6th/7th or further.
Good luck with finding the funds to do that as well as passing by an opportunity to get £60m + on a single asset through sheer determination not to sell.
Higuain is available for transfer and wants to leave. Bale and Fabregas aren't available and don't want to go right now.
Spurs' resolve will definitely be tested by Madrid, City, and ourselves (probably a couple of other teams, too). They need to keep him in order to challenge for a Champions League place, but I still think they'll struggle to achieve it when the four teams most likely to finish above them are seemingly strengthening their sides more than Spurs are. Until they build a new stadium and have the funds to splash out on what probably needs to be a good 4-5 players, they're probably going to struggle a little. I don't doubt they can do it on the odd season (as they did when Chelsea pushed them out via winning the competition), but they're not going to maintain it. I think it'd be a better business decision to sell Bale for a massive profit now and strengthen all areas of the team that need it and look into a new stadium. Reason being, they won't be able to keep convincing Bale to stay while they're not achieving anything. A player like him just won't want to be part of the building for a solid future process at a team that might not even be able to break the current top four sides for a number of years yet. If he wants to win major competitions, he needs to be at the very best teams.
It's probably most likely that for at least this season, Ronaldo and Bale will stay with their respective clubs. If there is a shift though, I believe it'll be some kind of knock on effect where Bale signs for United, who sell on Rooney to another team (probably Chelsea). Or, Bale goes to Madrid, and the impossible happens with Ronaldo coming back to United, which could mean Rooney still leaving, but he might be more tempted to stay.
Either way, Spurs and Bale have a big decision to make this season and for the coming seasons. I'd love for us to sign him, but I don't think any of these mega deals are very likely. Fabregas is still our most likely acquisition IMO.
It's probably most likely that for at least this season, Ronaldo and Bale will stay with their respective clubs. If there is a shift though, I believe it'll be some kind of knock on effect where Bale signs for United, who sell on Rooney to another team (probably Chelsea). Or, Bale goes to Madrid, and the impossible happens with Ronaldo coming back to United, which could mean Rooney still leaving, but he might be more tempted to stay.
Either way, Spurs and Bale have a big decision to make this season and for the coming seasons. I'd love for us to sign him, but I don't think any of these mega deals are very likely. Fabregas is still our most likely acquisition IMO.
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Attention Twitter warriors: this one's for you
Robin van Persie's £24 million move to Manchester United finally completes one of the summer's longest-running transfer sagas-come-soap operas.
All soap operas worth the name need a villain of pantomime proportions. and for much of this one MirrorFootball fulfilled that role.
From the moment the Daily Mirror's man in the know at Arsenal, John Cross, reported that a frustrated van Persie was ready to quit the Gunners people have been forming disorderly queues to pour scorn on our stories.
The vitriol only increased when, 10 days later, the Sunday Mirror's Chief Football Writer Matt Law broke the exclusive that van Persie wanted to win silverware at another club rather than sign a lucrative new £130k-a-week deal at the Emirates.
Faceless Twitter warriors claimed we print lies, bullshit or just make up our stories. They parroted the party line that Arsenal and van Persie's people had agreed a media blackout so therefore any details we had on contract talks must have been fabricated.
Of course, it didn't help any that van Persie himself said that he wouldn't discuss his future until after Euro 2012 - while, it must be said, simultaneously raising his hemline a little in the direction of Turin.
And yet this was seen by the masses as yet more evidence that we were sat in a dark room somewhere making transfer stories up for kicks.
That we were somehow the ones with an agenda, despite the fact that van Persie was, in reality, agitating to move - as his infamous July 4th statement proved beyond doubt.
So for the benefit of the Twitter massive, this is how transfer stories like Van Persie's come about.
First off, it should go without saying that none of our reporters invent stories - for kicks, or otherwise.
Every transfer story that you read on MirrorFootball or in the Daily Mirror has been properly sourced.
Sure, that source might be someone with a point to make or a message to send via the press - an agent wanting a better deal for his player, or a manager testing the water with regard to a potential purchase or sale, say.
But the point is, these conversations are taking place, and they're taking place at YOUR club.
As such, we see it as our duty to report them.
Rebuttals from one party or another often muddy the waters but. as we've seen, you can't always believe the official PR line.
Not only are clubs desperate to maintain their bargaining positions in what is, essentially, an extremely high stakes form of bartering, but there's also the fact that not everyone at a club is fully aware of what's going on.
The press office, for example, can be completely oblivious to the fact that their own club's manager or chief exec are knee-deep in confidential contracts and clauses, and will thus respond to journalists' enquiries accordingly.
Said journalist then states categorically that the club concerned are not after the player and fans swallow it whole.
Another of the classic criterion used by naysayers to rubbish a story is the lack of any direct or attributable quotes - and yet that betrays a fundamental lack of understanding of how journalism of this nature works.
Confidential sources are confidential for a reason, and very few of the interested parties in transfer stories will speak on the record while negotiations are ongoing.
And yet fans still refuse to believe a story unless it contains some sort of corroborative comment within those magic quotation marks.
Following that rationale through to its (il)logical conclusion, genuinely-source stories would be more credible if we actually included a fabricated quote.
Which is, of course, nonsense.
But then again, if Twitter had been around during Watergate, Woodward and Bernstein would most likely have been besieged by posters who wouldn't believe them until Deep Throat had been paraded through the streets.
Then there's the thorny issue of accuracy.
Transfer deals, by their very nature, are mutable, fluid affairs.
Deals can collapse for all manner of reasons, and at any point in the process - but that doesn't suddenly invalidate any stories written up to that juncture.
Somehow, though, a large number of fans have failed to grasp this logic and any deal that fails to complete is cited as yet more evidence of 'lies'.
You'd think in this world of eBay and the like, fans would be more commerce savvy.
If you bid on an item but lose out to someone else, break off negotiations with the vendor for whatever reason, or even just change your mind and pull out of the running, that doesn't mean that you never wanted to buy the item in the first place.
Or that it would be a 'lie' to say that you did.
Similarly, just because a certain player ends up signing for one club, it does not mean that another club wasn't trying to sign him or was in talks right up until the last minute.
Sites that publish so-called accuracy percentage ratings of various news organisations' transfer rumours completely fail to grasp these most elemental of points.
By the same token, if we - or anyone else - wanted to top those kind of charts, we could simply only report on done deals once they're signed, sealed and posing on the pitch with new shirt in hand.
But what would be the point of - and where would be the fun in - that? That's what official club sites do, and do very well.
One of my aims when I launched MirrorFootball.co.uk three years ago was to reflect the opinions, debate and banter of real football fans. To both inform and reflect the conversations happening on terraces and in pubs across the land.
The fact of the matter is that football fans love discussing transfer rumours and gossip. Sometimes the more outlandish and unlikely, the better.
And for that reason alone we'll continue to bring you the inside scoop on football's movers and shakers whenever we come across it.
Now, have you heard the latest about Wesley Sneijder...?
You've just summed up ALL posts in the transfer thread, and ALL media rumours too for that matter. No one has a Scooby Clue whats going on, but a) they have to print something and b) a shit load of RedCafe peeps HAVE to post something (or they'll explode)
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