Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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I know fellaini will be good for us. He's too complete a player not to. I just am not sure whether he's going to be great for us. Hard to judge when he's always uptop bringing down long pases, which I hope isn't how we intend to use him.
 
I know fellaini will be good for us. He's too complete a player not to. I just am not sure whether he's going to be great for us. Hard to judge when he's always uptop bringing down long pases, which I hope isn't how we intend to use him.

As has been alluded to, I think him and Carrick being played deep gives the front 4 (Hopefully Kagawa-Rooney-Nani behind RVP) full licence to push forward and attack with abandon without compromising us defensively. I've gone on record about how my biggest issue with our midfield is not so much that it lacks incision (it does, but hopefully the forwards in good form can more than compensate) but that seemingly any opposition player with dribbling ability somewhere between Messi and a potato can just drive unchallenged though the middle 9 times out of 10. Carrick is/was our best defensively minded CM but he's always excelled at reading the game and making interceptions rather than direct challenges (a bit like Rio in that respect) and Clev/Ando just lack defensive prowess at the moment. Fellaini will, I hope, be extremely complementary to Carrick's defending, in the same sense that at their peak Vidic was the blood-and-thunder get a boot or a head to everything type of player, and Rio was the more calm, sophisticated one who swept up whatever was left over.
 
As has been alluded to, I think him and Carrick being played deep gives the front 4 (Hopefully Kagawa-Rooney-Nani behind RVP) full licence to push forward and attack with abandon without compromising us defensively. I've gone on record about how my biggest issue with our midfield is not so much that it lacks incision (it does, but hopefully the forwards in good form can more than compensate) but that seemingly any opposition player with dribbling ability somewhere between Messi and a potato can just drive unchallenged though the middle 9 times out of 10. Carrick is/was our best defensively minded CM but he's always excelled at reading the game and making interceptions rather than direct challenges (a bit like Rio in that respect) and Clev/Ando just lack defensive prowess at the moment. Fellaini will, I hope, be extremely complementary to Carrick's defending, in the same sense that at their peak Vidic was the blood-and-thunder get a boot or a head to everything type of player, and Rio was the more calm, sophisticated one who swept up whatever was left over.

This would be the ideal situation but it depends if Moyes is going to drop Young and Giggs and play our best players....
 
I assume Fellaini will go straight into the team. Will be interesting to see how it will work. Will we look to turn him more defensive or give him rein to charge forward like he is used to at Everton? I feel the latter uses his talents better but can we afford it?
 
Depends what you're talking about. He's better at dribbling and driving forward with the ball. Carrick is a better passer.
I've watched Fellaini in each game he's played this season and at no stage has he driven forward with the ball, is that something he does? I hope it is, but he doesn't look like a good dribbler at all to me, granted it was only three games. The most impressive thing about him was his passing, he plays it much faster than I thought, although his range is somewhat limited.
 
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That's great but more than half those stats came from a position he won't play for us and the tackling doesn't factor in other players like carrick making interceptions. Wonder how many fouls he gave away whilst he was at it.
 
One thing's for sure, rival fans are going to fecking hate Fellaini. I'm so glad that we've signed him.

As a CM he floats about the pitch properly pissing opposition players off. He's not particularly fast or even particularly clinical in his tackling/interceptions, but he's huge and he just knows where to stick himself in order to be the maximum nuisance to anyone trying to play around him.

A top player without doubt and exactly what United needed.
 
I've watched Fellaini in each game he's played this season and at no stage has he driven forward with the ball, is that something he does? I hope it is, but he doesn't look like a good dribbler at all to me, granted it was only three games. The most impressive thing about him was his passing, he plays it much faster than I thought, although his range is somewhat limited.
He's not a dribbler per say. But due to his strength and energy he is good at making driving runs if you get what I mean. He's not beat anyone from a standing position but he can un settle them due to his mobility and strength. Basically he does the yaya Toure routine but with less skill of course and shorter bursts as he isn't as quick.
 
I think the only reasonable idea behind the Fellaini purchase is that both Carrick and Fellaini will lay rather defensive. This means we can play our best offensive wingers in contrary to playing our "best defensive wingers" which has been "our thing" for a long period of time now.

Fellaini and Carrick will be in my eyes, the most defensively solid CM duo of any of the top clubs in the world and that by quite a margin. Fellaini and Carrick are both huge which will help us on corners, free-kicks and crosses in to our own box. That ticks 3 of the most common ways for bad teams to beat better teams.

With both Fellaini and Carrick playing defensively we will allow our wing-backs and wingers to be much more offensively creative as they know even if they lose the ball we have 2 great solid players behind them ready to clean up the mess. So most likely we will see Zaha&Nani or one of them partnered up with Kagawa/Welbeck.

I am really happy with the signing because I've advocated for British teams to turn less continental instead of more. Fellaini, Carrick, Vidic, Ferdinand, DDG can't be doubted as probably the defensively best "5" in the world.

Agree completely with this
 
I kinda feel for the lad - well, as much as you can feel for a multi-millionaire playing the sport he loves for one of the greatest clubs in the history of the game.

The reception has been lukewarm at best due to the travesty that was deadline day. He probably knows he was quite a way down Moyes' list as well. Hopefully he'll get a better reception when we play Palace next weekend.

27.5M though... what the feck was Wood & crew thinking. They must've panicked a bit in the last few hours there. Imagine if they hadn't signed Fellaini? I think Woodwood's job may have hinged on this signing.
 

Bit flawed those stats seeing as he played as a number 10 last season, so he probably wont be scoring 11 goals for us considering he will be much deeper.

Makes his tackling stats more impressive though, and they were even better in 11/12 IIRC
 
Bit flawed those stats seeing as he played as a number 10 last season, so he probably wont be scoring 11 goals for us considering he will be much deeper.

Makes his tackling stats more impressive though, and they were even better in 11/12 IIRC

I actually posted this before in the transfer thread but now that he joined us it's more relevant now. Read an article (think on Opta) which compared his 11/12 and 12/13 stats, and mocked up an image of all the tables they had. Makes for interesting reading.

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I know that compilations are the spawn of the earth and this certain one has been posted several times but it really is an excellent one.

I don't know how you can watch that and say that he isn't a very good passer/doesn't have that good technique. His technical game is superb, plus his passing range is more than adequete. I don't know if anyone saw the WBA game where he played a pearler of a pass to Jelavic which was wrongly called for offside. Yes, a huge part of his technical game is his absurd ability to chest the ball down like no other player i have seen before, and people may say this won't happen a lot in CM but a lot of times during that video it does. He is very good at turning players due to his size and strength also, therefore getting out of tight spots and corners, which can set up attacks. Maybe he isn't the one who is actively involved in the attack, but he starts them, if not finishing them.
 
Not thrilled at the way we went about this transfer, but I am glad he's part of our team. There's no other player in the squad anything like him in terms of physical presence in the middle of the park and he will add another dimension to our play that we have been lacking somewhat in recent years. The only worry is whether Moyes will pick the right players alongside him.
 
I think the only reasonable idea behind the Fellaini purchase is that both Carrick and Fellaini will lay rather defensive. This means we can play our best offensive wingers in contrary to playing our "best defensive wingers" which has been "our thing" for a long period of time now.

Fellaini and Carrick will be in my eyes, the most defensively solid CM duo of any of the top clubs in the world and that by quite a margin. Fellaini and Carrick are both huge which will help us on corners, free-kicks and crosses in to our own box. That ticks 3 of the most common ways for bad teams to beat better teams.

With both Fellaini and Carrick playing defensively we will allow our wing-backs and wingers to be much more offensively creative as they know even if they lose the ball we have 2 great solid players behind them ready to clean up the mess. So most likely we will see Zaha&Nani or one of them partnered up with Kagawa/Welbeck.

I am really happy with the signing because I've advocated for British teams to turn less continental instead of more. Fellaini, Carrick, Vidic, Ferdinand, DDG can't be doubted as probably the defensively best "5" in the world.

That's the way I see it. We will have 2 defensive sitting players which allows the 4 in front to express themselves.
 
Couldn't give a few fecks about how much more we paid over his release clause. 'We've' got the money. We need somebody like him and I think he may be the best thing in the middle of his type since Roy Keane. Lets feckin av it !


I love how the discussion banter terms become all Neanderthal when you have Fellani, whereas if you had gotten a technical skillful player it would all be ' lets play some jolly sublime football chaps', instead its all like ' yerrrr geeza lets get stuck in!!! Av it up em!!!'.
 


I know that compilations are the spawn of the earth and this certain one has been posted several times but it really is an excellent one.

I don't know how you can watch that and say that he isn't a very good passer/doesn't have that good technique. His technical game is superb, plus his passing range is more than adequete. I don't know if anyone saw the WBA game where he played a pearler of a pass to Jelavic which was wrongly called for offside. Yes, a huge part of his technical game is his absurd ability to chest the ball down like no other player i have seen before, and people may say this won't happen a lot in CM but a lot of times during that video it does. He is very good at turning players due to his size and strength also, therefore getting out of tight spots and corners, which can set up attacks. Maybe he isn't the one who is actively involved in the attack, but he starts them, if not finishing them.

The 1-0 against us was incredible, catch the ball with his chest, shield off Carrick or whoever as the ball dropped, by time the ball hit the ground he was already passing it, once the ball had reached his target he was 5-10 yards away ready for the next pass. Nothing we done could stop it, like a force of nature...

Those short pass and move triangles were deadly all game long. Fine technique and a good range of passing, not great, but more than good enough.
 
I actually posted this before in the transfer thread but now that he joined us it's more relevant now. Read an article (think on Opta) which compared his 11/12 and 12/13 stats, and mocked up an image of all the tables they had. Makes for interesting reading.

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Yeah you can really tell that he was playing different roles, I mean the aerial success rate for one is much lower in 11/12, but that isn't surprising as he was competing with centre backs rather than centre mids.

85% tackle success rate is brilliant, exactly what we need.
 
Fellaini's hair is amazing, people saying to cut it need to re-evaluate their lives.
 
If we are trialing 1-0 with 10 minutes to go would you be happy to see Fellaini pushed higher up to be used like he was at Everton?
 
If we are trialing 1-0 with 10 minutes to go would you be happy to see Fellaini pushed higher up to be used like he was at Everton?
Obviously it depends on the circumstances, i.e. how likely we look to score and who's on the bench etc, but in general, yeah, I don't see why not.
 
If we are trialing 1-0 with 10 minutes to go would you be happy to see Fellaini pushed higher up to be used like he was at Everton?

Obviously, you play to your strengths and if nothing else is working shaft this big brute up top and go long.
 
Obviously it depends on the circumstances, i.e. how likely we look to score and who's on the bench etc, but in general, yeah, I don't see why not.

I'd go along with that. He's so fecking brilliant at controlling those long balls and getting rid of it quickly that it seems a shame to ignore that part of his game
 
I just hope signing him doesn't mean that Rio tries even more stupid and pointless long balls than he already does.
 
Just looking at the compilation above, which is lovely and all, but most of the work done there is in the final third. We still don't know where we're going to utilise him.
 
I can just imagine us playing the likes of Sociedad in Europe and them just thinking "holy feck" when they line up against him.
 
Just watching United in Press, bloody hell that hair has a life of it's own. We have our own Sideshow Bob. Take that Chelsea.
 
If we are trialing 1-0 with 10 minutes to go would you be happy to see Fellaini pushed higher up to be used like he was at Everton?

We can have DDG upfront, if necessary to win the game.
 
This is the signing I've wanted all summer. He is going to prove a lot of people wrong, and we finally have a player with a little nastiness about him to get stuck in when needs be
 
He'll do well, i know he will, you'll all see !

He is going to be such an upgrade on Cleverly and Anderson and he will give us options in the team we haven't had for a long time, Welcome Marouane !
 
Wonder how much Axel Witsel will go for in today's market? They might complement each other well in that central midfield.
 
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