Manchester City vs. Manchester United

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Moyes needs to start taking risk and play more attacking player. Push fellaini further up and put Nani in for Young

I would keep Lingard after his months loan. Blood the kids. I could put up with the odd bad game if they were getting experience, but when these are so called international players it make my blood boil.
 
Valencia is a safe player... For a game like this though we should be playing our best players not have average joes on the wings
 
Moyes, so far, seems out of his depth in how he handles a big squad. Why he favours Young over Nani or Kagawa is beyond me. Rooney should be dropped back into mid to compete for the ball there and bring Hernandez and Nani on to stretch their back line.
 
Nani will come on for the last 15 minutes and do more than Young and Valencia combined.
 
So much avergeness in this team.

No creativity, no spark, no clue.
 
Something has to change here.

Nani & Kagawa for Young and Welbeck? Fellani?

Fellani needs to be linking to the attack more, he's playing Carrick lite at the moment & we already have Carrick for that role.


Bingo! The hairy Belgian should be Carrick replacment not partner. Good player and that but. We should ve signed somene to partner Carrick.
 
He's playing badly like you've hoped before and now you can say you're right. You must be cock a hoop.

You're like the Ashley Young of Redcafe then.


You're talking complete shit. Brilliant call from me to say Young would be poor. Who in the earth would have predicted that?
 
Honestly losing the goal right before the 2nd half is the absolute killer.

We've been very poor today in terms of energy and desire. We have none! citeh have come out with energy and we have suffered as a result.

Valencia is just terrible to be honest. He can't even defend well anymore. Not tracking kolorov really is the final nail in the coffin for him in my opinion. What else is he on the pitch for if not to make us better defensively!?

Young is also devoid of any creative ability on the left wing. Neither of our wingers have even attempted to take on a player or make a run behind the defence.

This team really is lacking in energy, desire and has no idea how to attack at all. In some ways Moyes is to blame and needs to realize that we are not a defensive team. We need to attack and it scares me to think that Moyes doesn't know how to fix this. His constant selection of Valencia and Young really highlights this.
 
Moyes, so far, seems out of his depth in how he handles a big squad. Why he favours Young over Nani or Kagawa is beyond me. Rooney should be dropped back into mid to compete for the ball there and bring Hernandez and Nani on to stretch their back line.
This sums up my thoughts perfectly.
 
5 league games in and looking at our second defeat makes you wonder. This is a very pedestrian United team. Without Van Persie, Rooney is wasting his energy running back to get the ball. Young is playing hit and hope with his crosses, and Valencia is hampered by having to double up as right back to cover for Smalling. Fellaini is nowhere near Toure half the time and he looks a bit overawed. Carrick drifts in and out of the game too.

And Evra is showing exactly why Moyes wanted Baines!
 
On the negative side, you can see exactly why Moyes had such a poor record against the best teams.

On the positive side, he somehow had a great record against City. So we might get 2 own goals and get back into the game
 
Valencia, welbeck and young. We all new would be shit and guess what. Don't worry though they work hard.

Most of the realists said it at the start, that Rooney was the only one of the front 4 that would threaten City and we would need a stunning performance from him for us to win here.
 
Come on Moyes make the changes and let's go for this

Hope we don't stay like this until we have 15 minutes to go
 
Can't be arsed getting on board with the drama in here but I wish we'd grow a pair of testicles. As individuals, as a unit, the manager... no-one seems to have any confidence or guts whatsoever.
 
Valencia can't even play well defensively now. fecking shit both him and Young
 
5 games into the league season and we havent scored in open play since the first day. Is this acceptable?
 
We finally played what most of us can see is our best lineup in midweek - and put in our best performance of the season. And what does Moyes do? Bring Young back into the team, leave kagawa and Nani out and leave us with absolutely no chance of creating anything. Baffling.

If we could have kept it at 1-0 and brought on some of our more creative players we'd have stood a good chance but now I worry for us.

Moyes has chosen negative, uninspiring lineups for all 3 of our big games in the league this season. How long is he going to take to realise it doesn't work?
 
Not really. It happens every year
We beat them both last season away.

hate to admit it. True.
They really aren't. If we picked our best fecking lineup for once instead of being so fecking negative all the time. Nani and kagawa are a whole other level to Valencia and young. It's mind boggling how they aren't playing. Rafael for smalling, van Persie for welbeck and those two in would make a massive difference.
 
It's more about damage control now than turning it around unfortunately.
 
We were much better in that 1-6 trashing. Today history may as well be repeated...

1 shot for 45 mins...
 
Valencia is a safe player... For a game like this though we should be playing our best players not have average joes on the wings

nani aside, that's all we've got though.

the side was crying out for a winger in the summer. zaha has potential, but he's not ready yet.

januzaj is surely a better option than those two shithouses on the wings today.
 
You're talking complete shit. Brilliant call from me to say Young would be poor. Who in the earth would have predicted that?
I've haven't sunk to the levels of hoping our players badly yet so I've got a bit to go before I sunk to the levels of talking shit that you muster.
 
Young running around doing feck all, Welbeck seems to forget he`s playing, nothing from midfield, and lack of creativity all around. How can Toure be alone in our box?

Please, just throw Kagawa behind Rooney, and Nani for Young. Let us please dream that we can have ideas on the pitch. I`m sad Adnan is not even on the bench. That`s how desperate I am.

City well deserved victory so far.
 
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