Mesut Özil

adamwest said:
oh my days what a finish that was tonight.
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One part of his game I think he'll improve under Wenger, not the most natural finisher and hesitates when he gets through. But bloody hell he didn't hesitate there, hit that ball as sweet as you could of there.

Robbie Boy said:
World-class can be attritibuted to Ozil. He has really transformed a distinctly average team.
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That is a bit much, we were very good towards the end of last season. He has however moved our attacking play up a dimension, last season we'd struggle without Cazorla and now we worry about how we fit em all in the same team!

He just links everything together so beautifully, gives our attacking play so much more purpose and cutting edge.
 
I'm sure a lot of the confidence and good feeling is to do with Ozil as well. Out of the doom and gloom came a huge signing that'll uplift everyone. And with a player like Ozil in the team, I'm with Ramsey - get forward as much as possible and you'll get chances no question
 
Definitely, he has given the players, the fans and the club a huge lift. I think the players feel they need to up their level as well with his arrival, a few have mentioned that in interviews.

If you make the run and the ball is with Ozil he will see you, we haven't had that kind of vision since Bergkamp. I thought Santi was good but he is even better than him at spotting runs!
 
Yeah, but thats no slight on Cazorla. Even Ronaldo credited Ozil as the reason he scored as often as he does for Madrid. Thats what we're talking about here, the player that created the majority of Real Madrid's oppertunities over the years, including helping them win the title over Barcelona. So with that in mind, nobody should ever feel like theres no point going forward because your run wont be spotted
 
Lovely player to watch. He just has that maestro quality to him where his passes make the other players look better.
 
Yeh, that was the best 45 minutes I've seen from an Arsenal player in about five years. Scintillating, sublime, sensational.

I mean, that goal. In the ground we all just turned to each other and puffed out our cheeks in awe. Unbelievable.
 
Ozil in being very very good shock. He is one of those players that you simply buy regardless of cost or who is currently occupying similar positions.
 
I was at the Westfalenstadion and automatically started clapping when I saw the goal at half time...

Surprisingly, most of the BvB bunch around me did too.
 
Donaldo said:
I was at the Westfalenstadion and automatically started clapping when I saw the goal at half time...

Surprisingly, most of the BvB bunch around me did too.
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Well, he is their national team player and it was a great goal. Could have been clapping for him scoring, the goal itself or both.
 
For the longest time, I thought Madrid were total idiots for selling him, till I realized that we were bigger idiots for not trying to sign him when he was made available.
 
Snow said:
Well, he is their national team player and it was a great goal. Could have been clapping for him scoring, the goal itself or both.
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Well considering we're their strongest opposition in the group I wouldn't have expected them to be so magnanimous. Lots of oohs and aahs at our play.
 
I don't know why we didn't buy him. I assume it was because we felt we didn't need another player in that position or that he was overpriced. Don't think either is a good reason.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
I don't know why we didn't buy him. I assume it was because we felt we didn't need another player in that position or that he was overpriced. Don't think either is a good reason.
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Too many chefs etc... Signing Özil would surely have been the end of Rooney. Whether or not that would have have been worth it, nobody knows. But if such a deal meant that Rooney would go to Chelsea, then I certainly think we made the right decision.
 
Mad Winger said:
Too many chefs etc... Signing Özil would surely have been the end of Rooney. Whether or not that would have have been worth it, nobody knows. But if such a deal meant that Rooney would go to Chelsea, then I certainly think we made the right decision.
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There's room for other attackers alongside Rooney in the squad. At the moment we have Kagawa, Young and Valencia, any of which could have made way.
 
feck's sake, this was bound to happen. I started changing my mind (regarding the Januzaj/Kagawa situation) during the summer because both ourselves and Ozil were blatantly going to start the season like this. It's sod's law that he is looking exactly the player we could do with.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
There's room for other attackers alongside Rooney in the squad. At the moment we have Kagawa, Young and Valencia, any of which could have made way.
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Exactly. Ozil would be on par with Rooney and RvP arguably our best player, plus he's also younger than the both of them. If you can't find a place for Ozil in your team you're doing something wrong. It's not like Arsenal are understocked in that position, yet they had the sense to bring him in anyway.

It's obviously pointless for us to moan about not going for him at this stage but it's going to be very irritating to see a player we could've had and who would have provided so many of the qualities we're sorely lacking rip up the league for the next several years.
 
bigredmachine said:
For the longest time, I thought Madrid were total idiots for selling him, till I realized that we were bigger idiots for not trying to sign him when he was made available.
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It's one thing to have bought Ozil, it's another thing to fit him into the United squad. We have Rooney who has suddenly become the media darling despite playing below par. We have Kagawa who actually replaced Ozil at Dortmund and won 2 titles on the spin in Germany. We are still at sea on how to effectively get the best out of Kagawa so it's a bit far-fetched to be coveting Ozil at this stage.

Our squad management needs help from the UN.
 
Hannibal said:
It's one thing to have bought Ozil, it's another thing to fit him into the United squad. We have Rooney who has suddenly become the media darling despite playing below par. We have Kagawa who actually replaced Ozil at Dortmund and won 2 titles on the spin in Germany. We are still at sea on how to effectively get the best out of Kagawa so it's a bit far-fetched to be coveting Ozil at this stage.

Our squad management needs help from the UN.
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Ozil didn't play for Dortmund.
 
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MikeUpNorth said:
I don't know why we didn't buy him. I assume it was because we felt we didn't need another player in that position or that he was overpriced. Don't think either is a good reason.
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Because Kagawa and wingers.
 
I'd gladly have condemned Kagawa to the bench if it was to bring Ozil. When a player is that good, you worry about things after you sign him.
 
Archie Leach said:
No it isn't. We're a striker and a defender away from having a squad capable of winning the title, regardless of form.
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It really isn't a dig to be honest. But this Arsenal team is hardly vintage, ala, having players such as Fabregas, RvP, Henry, etc. You's have a decent enough squad and if Flamini, Giroud and Ramsey can maintain their form, then you's could well win something this year.

My point was that, Ozil has clearly taken you's to the next level and so much will depend on him maintaining form / fitness throughout the season. He could have a similar impact to the one that RvP had with us last season.
 
Robbie Boy said:
It really isn't a dig to be honest. But this Arsenal team is hardly vintage, ala, having players such as Fabregas, RvP, Henry, etc. You's have a decent enough squad and if Flamini, Giroud and Ramsey can maintain their form, then you's could well win something this year.

My point was that, Ozil has clearly taken you's to the next level and so much will depend on him maintaining form / fitness throughout the season. He could have a similar impact to the one that RvP had with us last season.
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Who were Cesc, RvP, Henry, Pires, Vieira before they came to Arsenal. All very good, promising players, but it was at the club that they became superstars and world class players. I see similar promise across the squad, and whilst I do think we're short in defence and attack, we're closer to the finished article than we have been in years.

You have some gall talking about vintage with that dross you put out week after week.
 
Robbie Boy said:
It really isn't a dig to be honest. But this Arsenal team is hardly vintage, ala, having players such as Fabregas, RvP, Henry, etc. You's have a decent enough squad and if Flamini, Giroud and Ramsey can maintain their form, then you's could well win something this year.

My point was that, Ozil has clearly taken you's to the next level and so much will depend on him maintaining form / fitness throughout the season. He could have a similar impact to the one that RvP had with us last season.
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The team looks like it's moving towards one of those vintage lineups though. Players like Wilshere, Ramsey, Ox, Szczesny are all under twenty three and have great potential. Ozil and Cazorla are both good enough to have been in any team under Wenger, and our back four has finally come together. Players like Walcott and Podolski aren't world class but they supply real results in the form of goals and assists.

Ozil is on the same level (or close to) as Fabregas, RVP and Henry. It should also be pointed out that none of those players played their best football together. Henry had petered out by Fabregas' peak, and RVP was a peripheral (albeit obviously talented) member of the squad during Cesc's best years.
 
Donaldo said:
Who were Cesc, RvP, Henry, Pires, Vieira before they came to Arsenal. All very good, promising players, but it was at the club that they became superstars and world class players. I see similar promise across the squad, and whilst I do think we're short in defence and attack, we're closer to the finished article than we have been in years.

You have some gall talking about vintage with that dross you put out week after week.
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Strange post altogether. My point was that you's have had far stronger squads over the years but Ozil has made a massive difference.

Some gall? I'm a massive critic of our squad in general at the minute and never once mentioned it so I'm not sure why you did.

Anyway, I'm not sure who you are but you seem like an utter bell-end.
 
Archie Leach said:
The team looks like it's moving towards one of those vintage lineups though. Players like Wilshere, Ramsey, Ox, Szczesny are all under twenty three and have great potential. Ozil and Cazorla are both good enough to have been in any team under Wenger, and our back four has finally come together. Players like Walcott and Podolski aren't world class but they supply real results in the form of goals and assists.

Ozil is on the same level (or close to) as Fabregas, RVP and Henry. It should also be pointed out that none of those players played their best football together. Henry had petered out by Fabregas' peak, and RVP was a peripheral (albeit obviously talented) member of the squad during Cesc's best years.
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Some good points. My brother is a gooner so I have watched a-good bit of you's this season and have been extremely impressed. If you's keep this group together then this is potentially a very very good team. All depends on key players maintaining form and fitness as I think the squad lacks depth to a certain degree.

Anyway, the main point is that Ozil has been the difference so far and he seems to be the key piece that was missing.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Strange post altogether. My point was that you's have had far stronger squads over the years but Ozil has made a massive difference.

Some gall? I'm a massive critic of our squad in general at the minute and never once mentioned it so I'm not sure why you did.

Anyway, I'm not sure who you are but you seem like an utter bell-end.
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Thanks, I try.

You took a general swipe in a nonsense post, I responded in kind.

Anyhow, point being, you don't need 'vintage' quality to win the league, as your lot have proven. I'm just thankful we're winning the games we would have definitely drawn or lost last season. Shows that there's a backbone in this squad which wasn't there earlier.
 
Donaldo said:
Thanks, I try.

You took a general swipe in a nonsense post, I responded in kind.

Anyhow, point being, you don't need 'vintage' quality to win the league, as your lot have proven. I'm just thankful we're winning the games we would have definitely drawn or lost last season. Shows that there's a backbone in this squad which wasn't there earlier.
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I haven't taken a 'swipe' at all, so odd that you took it as such. Sure we don't have a 'vintage' squad by any stretch of the imagination, and I'll happy admit that RvP was the different for us last season. We have a good group of players and he helped make the difference. Ozil has the potential to do just that for your lot. If that's a 'swipe' then you are a sensitive ouel soul.
 
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