Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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He's so clumsy.

Got sent off against Sociedad for stupid, pointless niggly fouls when already booked and was very lucky that he didn't get the same for planting his studs into McCarthy's thigh.
 
He was decent. I don't know if we can attribute it to a step up or him just being up for it while facing his former club.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
He was decent. I don't know if we can attribute it to a step up or him just being up for it while facing his former club.
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Was he decent decent... Or was he decent in comparison to what we've seen from him so far.

At half time, I realised the scale I was judging him on was definitely the latter.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
Was he decent decent... Or was he decent in comparison to what we've seen from him so far.

At half time, I realised the scale I was judging him on was definitely the latter.
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Yeah, his best game for us so far, but still far from what we'd like to have in there. Just an awful signing.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
Was he decent decent... Or was he decent in comparison to what we've seen from him so far.

At half time, I realised the scale I was judging him on was definitely the latter.
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In comparison to what I've seen from him so far and yes the bar is very low. Its still not the kind of performance that fills me with any hope that he can be the dominating midfielder that we badly need or that his price tag warrants, but its unfair to criticize him tonight because we was alright.
 
He'll be much better when partnered by, you know, actual central midfielders. If we had signed Xavi instead in the summer he would struggle in our midfield. Fellaini's looks better with every game and I'm pretty confident he can be a good addition to our inevitable midfield revamp.
 
Forget about his price tag, would any other supposed elite club in Europe sign him or even have him in their squad? Can anyone actually imagine him playing for a side like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern München, Chelsea, Manchester City, Arsenal, Juventus, or even Paris Saint-Germain? Would Ferguson ever even have dreamt of signing him? Absolutely no chance.

I just want to wake up and pretend this never happened.
 
Madrid would buy anyone. Barcelona have Song. Bayern wouldn't. Citeh bought Garcia. Arsenal wanted to sign him. Juventus would sign as many midfielders as possible, so maybe. PSG don't have an amazing midfield either, so they probably would too.

I don't think he is good enough for us anyway, but he would be a decent back up option to have on some occasions.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
In comparison to what I've seen from him so far and yes the bar is very low. Its still not the kind of performance that fills me with any hope that he can be the dominating midfielder that we badly need or that his price tag warrants, but its unfair to criticize him tonight because we was alright.
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To be fair, I think both him and Giggs did about as well as we could expect against what is quite a mobile and combatative Everton midfield. Ultimately, we lost this game because a) We're currently too over-reliant on Wayne Rooney having a blinder, and tonight he didn't have one, and b) Our wingers were god-awful... they improved no-end when Nani and Januzaj came on, but they were still playing there way into the game by the time Everton scored.
 
Yeah, I thought he was better than most of what we've seen from him thus far, but still not really up to any real sort of standard as a United midfielder. He seems to play within himself much more than he did at Everton, plus his lack of mobility doesn't help (though on that point, and it may be a daft shout, but did the smaller pitch at Everton help him in that regard?)
 
It's funny that some are saying he's not good enough for us when players who've been here for years are playing worse than he is.
 
Brophs said:
Yeah, I thought he was better than most of what we've seen from him thus far, but still not really up to any real sort of standard as a United midfielder. He seems to play within himself much more than he did at Everton, plus his lack of mobility doesn't help (though on that point, and it may be a daft shout, but did the smaller pitch at Everton help him in that regard?)
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I don't think that's a daft shout, I thought the same thing myself.
 
How can anyone watch that and claim anything else than him being garbage?

To sum it up: Half a second after the play through the entire match, should've been sent off, fluffed a good chance, managed to get repeatedly beat in the air - and cost us the game with a lazy piece of defending.

The fact he won the ball from Barkley twice shouldn't really matter. That was dreadful.

The sooner we get rid the better.
 
Just saw the goal back. Didn't realise at the time it was him that put up that limp attempt to stop Lakaku's cross for the goal.

He's such a soft twat. For man of his size he's absolutely pathetic when it comes to getting stuck in. That cowards challenge on Mccarthy was disgusting too.
 
Sam said:
Just saw the goal back. Didn't realise at the time it was him that put up that limp attempt to stop Lakaku's cross for the goal.

He's such a soft twat. For man of his size he's absolutely pathetic when it comes to getting stuck in. That cowards challenge on Mccarthy was disgusting too.
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And the way Barkley waltzed past him in the first half when he had a go from 20 yards instead of slipping Lukaku in - close call, could've cost us a goal that as well.

When he's in CM teams literally walk the ball through our central areas. It's laughable.
 
Mockney said:
I would genuinely give Fellaini, Young and Valencia away for free, at a massive loss, just to take the potential temptation to pick them away from the manager.
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We paid £61 million pounds for those three. £61 million.

I cant actually get my head around that.
 
thought he had a very good first half - his passing was a lot more positive than it has been and got in a few tackles/interceptions. Wasnt as good 2nd half, Giggs seemed to run out of steam (unsuprisingly) so he had to push on a bit more.

Im baffled that people cant see that he is slowly settling in and improving with each game.
 
Rood said:
thought he had a very good first half - his passing was a lot more positive than it has been and got in a few tackles/interceptions. Wasnt as good 2nd half, Giggs seemed to run out of steam (unsuprisingly) so he had to push on a bit more.

Im baffled that people cant see that he is slowly settling in and improving with each game.
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He was behind the play the entire first half.

Playing a couple of decent passes to Giggs isn't really anything to get excited about.

The difference in performance compared to CB Phil Jones is embarassing.
 
marjen said:
He was behind the play the entire first half.

Playing a couple of decent passes to Giggs isn't really anything to get excited about.

The difference in performance compared to CB Phil Jones is embarassing.
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Sad, but true.
 
That piece of play for their goal angers me so much.

It's five minutes left against his former club. He's been shite but we're needing a performance from him.

And he fannies out of a confrontation with Lukaku, in fact he doesn't even try to prevent him from turning - it directly costs us a goal.

But the sad thing is he does the same thing all the time, only this time it cost us. Fannied out of an easy challenge with Barkley in the first half which should've cost us bar a poor decision from Barkley. Repeatedly let their midfielders waltz past him on the breakaway like he didn't care.

He's a nothing player.
 
marjen said:
He was behind the play the entire first half.

Playing a couple of decent passes to Giggs isn't really anything to get excited about.

The difference in performance compared to CB Phil Jones is embarassing.
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He was playing a defensive role, and he was pretty good in it. His job isn't to do a Scholes-esque job by spraying balls left, right and centre but rather to sweep up ahead of the back four and get in players' faces. Granted he got knocked off by Barkley once or twice, but I remember Vidic being bulldozed several times by Lukaku and once by Barkley (I think) and didn't hear a peep about that. I will reiterate again: his game isn't about making beautiful passes, he was acting like a DM. Yet this forum try and find one fault to make it seem like he was shit today, when he was actually one of our better players. Doesn't mean I am ecstatic about his performance or think that he's the perfect man for the job, but give someone, a team member of United for Christ's sake, a little bit of credit where due
 
Brophs said:
Yeah, I thought he was better than most of what we've seen from him thus far, but still not really up to any real sort of standard as a United midfielder. He seems to play within himself much more than he did at Everton, plus his lack of mobility doesn't help (though on that point, and it may be a daft shout, but did the smaller pitch at Everton help him in that regard?)
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Smaller club too, United has huge pressure, moreso now.
 
Red Shorts said:
He was playing a defensive role, and he was pretty good in it. His job isn't to do a Scholes-esque job by spraying balls left, right and centre but rather to sweep up ahead of the back four and get in players' faces. Granted he got knocked off by Barkley once or twice, but I remember Vidic being bulldozed several times by Lukaku and once by Barkley (I think) and didn't hear a peep about that. I will reiterate again: his game isn't about making beautiful passes, he was acting like a DM. Yet this forum try and find one fault to make it seem like he was shit today, when he was actually one of our better players. Doesn't mean I am ecstatic about his performance or think that he's the perfect man for the job, but give someone, a team member of United for Christ's sake, a little bit of credit where due
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He doesn't get any credit from me.

He was playing a defensive role? How come Everton walked though us like nothing and you still claim he had a good match? Because he wrestled a couple of balls in their half of Barkley in the first half?

He was playing a defensive role, and didn't bother doing a basic defensive job when Everton scored - effectively costing us the game.

THEN we can start talking about his offensive contribution - which was slim to nothing, as you'd expect.

He wasn't acting like a DM as you claim, because he wasn't particularly bothered doing any actual defending. In fact he shies away from it and prefers coward's challenges to going in fair and hard and actually winning the ball.
 
marjen said:
He was behind the play the entire first half.

Playing a couple of decent passes to Giggs isn't really anything to get excited about.

The difference in performance compared to CB Phil Jones is embarassing.
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I have no idea what you are on about with the 'behind the play' comment.

this was his best game on passing - both in terms of accuracy (93%) and also playing positively as he has been too safe previously.

Jones is a midfield terrier, all about his engine - Fellaini is nothing like that. I'd actually like to see them paired together on the weekend.
 
Another thing that pisses me right off, is when he gets forward and then we lose the ball. You see the likes of Rafa, Valencia, Rooney and a 40 year old Giggs busting a gut to get back into position, then you look up the pitch and what do you see? Thats right, our defensive midfielder just casually jogging back, barely breaking a sweat, as if all is good in the world.

The lazy, gutless, pathetic joke.
 
Rood said:
I have no idea what you are on about with the 'behind the play' comment.

this was his best game on passing - both in terms of accuracy (93%) and also playing positively as he has been too safe previously.

Jones is a midfield terrier, all about his engine - Fellaini is nothing like that. I'd actually like to see them paired together on the weekend.
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I'm confused - some of you are claiming he's a pure defensive midfielder (which he does poorly) and some of you are claiming he's noting like a midfield terrier and talks about his passing as a strong point (which is neat, decent but come on, so is Cleverley's and he's slated on here).

Which is it?
 
marjen said:
That piece of play for their goal angers me so much.
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you clearly have an agenda if you think the goal is his fault - we were originally put under pressure by a hospital ball from Giggs which lead to the freekick. Then Valencia was sleeping on the back post.
 
Rood said:
Jones is a midfield terrier, all about his engine - Fellaini is nothing like that. I'd actually like to see them paired together on the weekend.
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This, I want to see too. I think he and Jones can click together. Jones participates more directly in attack (shots at goal etc) than Carrick who has better passing and the added physicality does match better with Fellaini. I think they can complement each other well.
 
marjen said:
I'm confused - some of you are claiming he's a pure defensive midfielder (which he does poorly) and some of you are claiming he's noting like a midfield terrier and talks about his passing as a strong point (which is neat, decent but come on, so is Cleverley's and he's slated on here).

Which is it?
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DM is actually a vague term to be fair - there are very different types of players included in that bracket, but I would largely split them into 2 types: the destroyer/bruiser/bulldog type and the holding/screening/quarterback type

Carrick is clearly the latter, Jones the former, and Id say Fellaini somewhere in between as a DM all rounder (passes better than Jones, gets stuck in more than Carrick).
 
Rood said:
DM is actually a vague term to be fair - there are very different types of players included in that bracket, but I would largely split them into 2 types: the destroyer/bruiser/bulldog type and the holding/screening/quarterback type

Carrick is clearly the latter, Jones the former, and Id say Fellaini somewhere in between as a DM all rounder (passes better than Jones, gets stuck in more than Carrick).
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The thing is, he doesn't. He's an absolute coward.
 
marjen said:
He doesn't get any credit from me.

He was playing a defensive role? How come Everton walked though us like nothing and you still claim he had a good match? Because he wrestled a couple of balls in their half of Barkley in the first half?

He was playing a defensive role, and didn't bother doing a basic defensive job when Everton scored - effectively costing us the game.

THEN we can start talking about his offensive contribution - which was slim to nothing, as you'd expect.

He wasn't acting like a DM as you claim, because he wasn't particularly bothered doing any actual defending. In fact he shies away from it and prefers coward's challenges to going in fair and hard and actually winning the ball.
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So them walking through our team was entirely his fault was it as was the goal? Ok I'm out
 
Sam said:
That doesn't mean he gets stuck in more then Carrick.
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Ye but it means your comment about being a coward is stupid.

Carrick is not the type of player to get stuck in - he relies on outstanding reading of the game and is more likely to intercept than tackle.
 
Rood said:
Carrick is not the type of player to get stuck in - he relies on outstanding reading of the game and is more likely to intercept than tackle.
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Carrick makes plenty of tackles though. Its a very underrated part of his game.

He's not the type to get 'stuck in' ala Keane. But neither is Fellaini.
 
Sam said:
Carrick makes plenty of tackles though. Its a very underrated part of his game.
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He doesnt - he averages only 1 or 2 tackles per match (Fellaini made 5 today). Like I said, he more than makes up for it in his reading of the game so he doesnt need to tackle so much.

Anyway my original point was only that Fellaini offers more physically in midfield than Carrick (but not as much as Jones), if you disagree with then then fair enough but you are wrong.
 
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