Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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He doesnt - he averages only 1 or 2 tackles per match (Fellaini made 5 today). Like I said, he more than makes up for it in his reading of the game so he doesnt need to tackle so much.

Anyway my original point was only that Fellaini offers more physically in midfield than Carrick (but not as much as Jones), if you disagree with then then fair enough but you are wrong.

He doesn't offer more physicality though. He should do, considering his size, and I expected him too. But he hasn't shown it so far.
 
Personally I feel a bit sorry for him....I think all the criticism of him is unfair.

I've never seen him play this role in midfield ever!!...I don't think he can anyways..Not his fault

And what the feck is that idiot doing Phil Neville coming out in the papers saying he needs to score more?!?!....How in God's name can you expect him to score from the position he is played in??
 
He doesnt - he averages only 1 or 2 tackles per match (Fellaini made 5 today). Like I said, he more than makes up for it in his reading of the game so he doesnt need to tackle so much.

Anyway my original point was only that Fellaini offers more physically in midfield than Carrick (but not as much as Jones), if you disagree with then then fair enough but you are wrong.

According to whoscored.com (no idea how relaible they are?) Carrick averaged 2.3 tackles per match in the PL last season, while Fellaini averaged 2.6. So not that much difference.
 
According to whoscored.com (no idea how relaible they are?) Carrick averaged 2.3 tackles per match in the PL last season, while Fellaini averaged 2.6. So not that much difference.

Id seen a lower average tackle per match stat for Carrick, but even assuming that source is correct, it is not a good comparison last season because Fellaini was playing upfront for a lot of it. Even then you can see that his average is higher, if you were able to pick out only the games where he played in midfield then it would be much higher still.
 
I still blame Moyes for this. Is Fellaini supporting the attack, shielding the defence or just playing box-to-box? Clarity of role is sorely lacking.

well at the moment he is mostly covering for Carrick so shielding the defence is his primary role. He did seem to be pushed forward a bit more later in the game as Giggs got tired and sat back.
 
If he had a good game then we as a club have been a massive failure. I'd be disappointed to see him on our bench. That's how bad he is.
 
I've just come back from the game. I must have watched a different game. He was inept, slow, and he certainly is not a player who suits United style we have become accustomed to over the years. He'd fit in well at Stoke or West ham.
I went to the game and this is exactly how I see it. First half I thought he was ok, nothing special but ok. Second half he was fecking infuriating. He did so many stupid things in our own half, playing several under hit passes that were easily intercepted and once leaving the ball for Smalling (?) who had an Everton player approaching when Fellaini should have just cleared it. He's slow, cumbersome and his man (when he decides to pick someone up) can run off him far far too easily. Near the end of the second half you could hear the fans in the ground getting annoyed with his perceived lack of effort and stupid mistakes.
 
We spend 27.5m on a player whose maximum expected achievement is that of doing ok.
 
I just don't see much evidence of the defensive steel some claimed he would bring when we signed him. He's so slow and lacking in mobility that he's easy to play around for even average midfields.
 
He played better than he usually did so far for us in the first half. Disappeared in the second half.

Still nowhere near being good enough for a top team. I would rather have Anderson playing
 
only just watched a reply of the game. But I thought he had a good game, looked to be put in a role to break up play and he did that well.
 
I think that Jimmy pretty much summed this thread up yesterday ( sorry for using you as an example Jim, nothing personal ). Came to the matchday thread, Fellaini made 2 tackles, won some aerial duels and generally played very well and after somebody ran past him in the midfield ( around 15th minute ? ) he came with a response of 'Fellaini's shit moments:1' ( or something alike ) then disappeared for the rest of the half and then came back at the end to say that he was shit.
 
Yesterday was one of his better days but he's not good enough to be starting for us. Everton screwed us by about £12 million.
 
I thought he was one of our better players last night, though he seemed to be invigorated by playing against is former club. He's certainly not played with that amount of gusto yet. He was good. Not great, but I don't think anyone bar Smalling had a great game for us. I think he played Carrick's role relatively well though. His passing stats at full time were very good.
 
For the first time since Leverkusen at home he had a good game. Really imposed himself, good distribution and won the ball back a fair bit. One of our better players on the night. Unfortunately, he will always have that price tag put on him, not his fault he cost that much but I am hoping to see more performances like last night
 
A performance like that would've been perfect if he had a top playmaker alongside him, alas, he had a 40 year old winger instead.

I still think there's a lot more to come from him and he's being written off too soon, and if he gets a really good partner alongside him on a consistent basis, he can be a good player for us.
 
A performance like that would've been perfect if he had a top playmaker alongside him, alas, he had a 40 year old winger instead.

I still think there's a lot more to come from him and he's being written off too soon, and if he gets a really good partner alongside him on a consistent basis, he can be a good player for us.

You're just desperate to find some positives.

Nothing wrong with that of course. If you can handle disappointment well enough.
 
A performance like that would've been perfect if he had a top playmaker alongside him, alas, he had a 40 year old winger instead.

I still think there's a lot more to come from him and he's being written off too soon, and if he gets a really good partner alongside him on a consistent basis, he can be a good player for us.

Spot on.
 
He was excellent on the first half. In the second he was ok.

Best game of him so far for us.
 
I've just come back from the game. I must have watched a different game. He was inept, slow, and he certainly is not a player who suits United style we have become accustomed to over the years. He'd fit in well at Stoke or West ham.
Agree with this completely. It probably was one of his better games but he still managed to put players around him in trouble a lot of times. It's baffling how slow he is. I'm usually for giving new players the benefit of the doubt but I don't think there is any doubt, he's just not good enough.
 
You're just desperate to find some positives.

Nothing wrong with that of course. If you can handle disappointment well enough.

Me? Desperate for positives? Do you read the majority of my posts? :D

I think he played well last night, especially in the first half where most unanimously agreed in the Match Day thread he was our best player. In the second half he completed faded but I think that was mostly because our entire team fell apart.

He's not great, he's not worth £27m, but he's a fecktonne better than most people on here are giving him credit for.
 
Yeah, he was grand for that first 30 minutes - really built a good platform for which I thought he might build on for the rest of the game... unfortunately he didn't.

Definitely not one of our worst players last night though, there were at least 5 or 6 players who performed poorer than he did.
 
Me? Desperate for positives? Do you read the majority of my posts? :D

I think he played well last night, especially in the first half where most unanimously agreed in the Match Day thread he was our best player. In the second half he completed faded but I think that was mostly because our entire team fell apart.

He's not great, he's not worth £27m, but he's a fecktonne better than most people on here are giving him credit for.

He made a few good tackles in the first 30 minutes. In the context of his previous performances for us it was a lot better - but it's still nowhere near the "played well" level. We just have extremely low standards when it comes to central midfield I'm afraid.

And yeah, Giggs was shite. Had to be expected after his brilliance at Leverkusen, he rarely plays well twice in a row.
 
he offered nothing going forward apart from losing ball.
Byt he did decent job in proceeding the back four.

all in all it was a decent performance.

yes and i hate him for some reason.

even the haters are coming round! I feel this is the first step in overcoming your irrational hatred, well done ;)

A quick look at the MOTM thread shows that the majority are now recognising what he can bring to the team - only the most biased of posters are now ignoring his rapid improvement from his poor early performances - he is getting better with each match and just needs time to settle. A regular midfield partner would make all the difference as well - everyweek we seem to have a different pairing which is not good
 
even the haters are coming round! I feel this is the first step in overcoming your irrational hatred, well done ;)

A quick look at the MOTM thread shows that the majority are now recognising what he can bring to the team - only the most biased of posters are now ignoring his rapid improvement from his poor early performances - he is getting better with each match and just needs time to settle. A regular midfield partner would make all the difference as well - everyweek we seem to have a different pairing which is not good


Yes, I'm a skeptic but yesterday he did decent job defensively.
 
So would people rather see a creative midfielder partnered with the bog brush, so he can perform a defensive duty like yesterday allowing the other CM to operate further up field, or Phil Jones? Unfortunately we only have one of those.
 
a lot of the crowd were really on his back actually. In the second half he so often put himself in positions where he couldn't receive the ball...

He edged deeper and deeper as the game went on...
 
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