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FIFA Ballon d’Or 2013
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If he was that way inclined he would never have left one of the best teams of recent decades to join the circus.
Yeah he was smiling like Charlie from charlie and the chocolate factory.
Ribéry refusing to give any interviews this evening. Not amused apparently! 
Fair does. What could go wrong with me choosing a sample of 1 before drawing that conclusion
anyone has a link to the list of the players voting?
Ashley Williams: Gareth Bale, Xavi, Cristiano Ronaldo
Just seem some of the names that got voted for. Astounding. Gareth Bale has a lot to live up to.
Best player in the fecking world 
Ribéry refusing to give any interviews this evening. Not amused apparently!
Is he surprised? It's an individual award and he's just not in the same category as the other two. Some of these players have some egos.
Anybodys FB newsfeed filled with scousers moaning about the lack of votes for Suarez? looks like RVP got more
looks like champions league football makes the difference
looks like champions league football makes the difference
any link to the list of voters???'
Or maybe the fact van Persie had a better year than Suárez?
It's only recently that it's become purely individual with no importance for titles won with a club (which seems pretty retarded to me), so yeah it probably hasn't completely sunk in yet.
I think it's the first time in the history of the Ballon d'Or that the winner did not win a single thing with his club, no?
I do agree that it is strange to have a team sport award an individual award that doesn't take team titles into consideration, which is probably why Ribéry feels a bit hard done by... Sure Jesus, we could have a trophyless Suárez win it next year...
Thanks mate.
Poles mostly voted for SAF as the best manager, surprised.
I don't think it really matters why he didn't win it. He's always been crazy emotional, Ronaldo could have won the domestic double and his reaction would still be the same, imo. He hoped he would win it, even if it was unlikely, now he's disappointed and wants to be left alone. That's all, imo.
Hoeness will definitely give some interviews and talk about a mean conspiration against Ribery and Bayern though, you can count on that
.To be fair, this is the conclusion of the evolution since FIFA took over, and the criteria changed. It makes it uniquely an individual award, for better or worse. Of course it depends on everyone's conception, but for me, the best player in the world in any given season isn't the one who can do the most stepovers or score the most goals or jump the highest or whatever, it's the guy that is the most important to a team that is successful (this obviously depends on the level of the team, I wouldn't be shocked if a Ballon d'Or went to a player in a team that won nothing if the level of the team isn't Real Madrid or Utd or Bayern). But I have a huge problem with the concept of individual awards in a team sport itself, so there's that.
How did Ribery even get into the mixer with Ronaldo and Messi.
Let alone being disappointed!
Let alone being disappointed!
I don't think it really matters why he didn't win it. He's always been crazy emotional, Ronaldo could have won the domestic double and his reaction would still be the same, imo. He hoped he would win it, even if it was unlikely, now he's disappointed and wants to be left alone. That's all, imo.
Hoeness will definitely give some interviews and talk about a mean conspiration against Ribery and Bayern though, you can count on that
Don't know much about Ribéry but yeah, he does seem the type to fly off the handle. Didn't he lose the head with a team mate for pouring beer over him or something?
He is surprised, he kept making a lot of interviews in recent weeks and months saying he truly believed he deserved to win it and that he was really confident. He set himself up for a massive disappointment.
These guys have serious egos and extremely high opinions of themselves.
I suppose they're bigged up by their managers and team mates to feel like that.He was clearly the best player in one the best club seasons in European history. How could he not be disappointed? No-one doubts Messi is the better player but he didn't have a brilliant 2013.
Because it's an individual award? He must have had some inkling that his individual performances weren't to the level of Ronaldo, who single handily qualified his country for the world cup.
Ronaldo "single-handedly" got us through the play-off. He didn't single-handedly qualified us for the World Cup. He was subpar during most of the qualifiers. If he hadn't been, we might not even had to go through to a play-off.
Something that crossed my mind is that it must be ages since a Real Madrid player won a Ballon D'Or for playing for Real Madrid. Figo and Ronaldo I's wins were just after they moved (I think) so they were really for the previous club year. Or am I forgetting something?
Fat Ronaldo in 2002, and that was won on the back of a great performance in the world cup for Brazil.
He was individually brilliant. Anyone who seriously thinks he wasn't have just decided to judge him off a couple of CL games in which he put the team first (and did it far better than Ronaldo or Messi have ever done).
A fair result. Ronaldo was the best player in 2013 and Messi was second best. Any other outcome would have been daylight ribery.
Of course he was individually brilliant, there were plenty of moments he picked something brilliant out of his arse over the season. Ronaldo's performance versus Sweden swayed many voters, I suspect. I do believe Ronaldo had the best individual year though.
That's what I meant about him and Figo. I might be wrong, but I think the voting used to be in August and so they'd be voting for his Inter/Brazil performances. I know Madrid nipped in quick before reward day, but still, I don't think it counts as one of theirs.
Congrats to the lad. Well deserved.
That's what I meant about him and Figo. I might be wrong, but I think the voting used to be in August and so they'd be voting for his Inter/Brazil performances. I know Madrid nipped in quick before reward day, but still, I don't think it counts as one of theirs.
You're spot on, yeah. Madrid really haven't performed in Europe in years. Their fans must be sweating for the big trophy.
We Porto fans also felt it unfair when Deco came second to Shevchenko in 2004. Still, closest one of our players ever came to winning it. My memory doesn't serve me well in regards to how good the Ukrainian was that season. Milan did walk the Serie A.
The only surprise there was that somehow they forgot to put Pique on the list.Ribery finishing third is a bit of a surprise. The fifa team of the year was a fecking joke
The same thing happened with Sneijder on 2010. If I am not mistaken he got most points from media but in the end wasn't even in top 3, cause players/managers even vote for their mates or only based on reputation.
When it comes to being the complete Footballer, and football is a team sport, Ribery is second only to Messi. Both work more for their team and have the skill to use their individual class to make the team win. On that account, Ronaldo is not as good as the other two.
I once read what a personal friend said about two actors who were brothers: Talking to (the first brother) made you feel *he* was the most wonderful human being that ever lived. Talking to (the other brother) made you feel *you* were the most wonderful human being that ever lived".
The title is important for the player who gets it and for ad contracts anyway - what counts is what happens on the field, and, when it comes down to it, titles. In the past years, with Messi, the outstanding player in the dominating team got the award. This year, the outstanding player in the dominating team didn't win it.
That being said, all three of them are brilliant players and reasons to go to the stadium, see a game
