Exactly..... That would require an element of succession planning. Not our strongest card it would seem.
Who would you have as our new manager
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That's a Shankly quote and yes, I saw the white text.
Very apt in the current climate.
Honestly? Anyone als long as he/she is not named David Moyes.
Van Gaal. Good coach and plays some nice football + he is a strong character..
Yea I know, and I agree he won't/shouldn't be sacked. The worry for me will come if we finish top 6 and he's happy with it.
My mate is a Barca fan and a massive Pep fan (understandably). He reckons if we had fone for Pep he would have jumped at the opportunity to become our manager as he really wanted the job apparently.
If there was a choice to be made, I second this. Still a good age too
Why so confrontation?
All things are relative... I am comparing him (and what I thought he could do) with Moyes. I even believe some of us on here (including myself) can deploy players more effectively than Moyes.
1. deployment: For example, how he (moyes) sub Welbeck in as a result of Evan being injured, and how Young had stayed on the pitch for the whole game whereas when we need to change the game and needed a goal or two, he subbed RvP etc... Many on here have better ideas then Moyes.
2. team talk: Young in a post match quote was saying he's playing the full game and was disappointed the second goal was not scored etc... Maybe taking out of context but how on earth we needed only a second goal when we needed two more goals to win it. This "draw is better than loss" mentality should not be acceptable for United. And I BELIEVE Ole will be better than Moyes in that department
I hope you are right! But for now, I am not so sure. Post match interviews should also be a platform for giving out messages to his team. It is one thing a manager deliberately avoids answering questions specifically, it's quite another when every post match answer is just generic and what do you think the players think after seeing the interviews? I hope I am proven wrong.
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The key word is 'apparently'.
I think you are very defensive here. Keep calm and you will see a bigger picture here.
When you see how Zaha (our own player on loan to Cardiff) made a difference in changing the game for Cardiff v Norwich and they went on to win it, you can't help but wonder, how on earth we couldn't use players to change the game when we were behind? My conclusion? The manager makes a difference.
These days, you don't even know if we can win a game against Norwich! Why? Because Moyes has been a record breaker since he took charge:
1. first league loss to Stoke since 1984
2. 1st home loss to Swansea EVER
3. 1st home loss to Everton since 1992
4. 1st home loss to Newcastle since 1972
5. 1st home loss to West Brom since 1978
6. 3 defeats successively for the 1st time since 2001
7. 7th position in Feb since...(filling in the blank)
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If Ole and the like comes in and break the above records like Moyes did, then I will agree with you maybe he (Ole) needs to earn it the way you want before he's considered. Question is: Really? Answer? I don't think so. Ole would have shared his experience as a top player and united legend status to convince his players that they, also can do it like Ole did, score late winners and all that. The belief and confidence players have (on top of what qualities they already have) are as important if not more important
...and what the feck do you mean by this? Go on, explain yourself you kneejerk idiot. With the exception of one Irishman, we've always had British managers.
Or are you one of the: "OMFG, GET MOYEZ OUT SO WE CAN HAZ MOURINHO OR KLOPP THEN BUY MESSI AND NEYMAR LMFAO"
Why don't you go support your local team? Plastic.
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Who are the British god managers at the moment (with the exception of Rodgers). BigSam? Curbishley? Pulis? Sherwood?
Fact is, they are shit at the moment and anyone but a British isn't racism but is a very logical thing to ask. If they're any good (like they were in the past) then ok, but hiring an incompetent manager just to stick to our traditions is lunacity.
Lunacity? I think you just invented a great new word!!!
We can have any manager in the world apart from the ones at Chelsea, City and Bayern.
Klopp would be my top choice but Van Gaal, Simeone all have done a terrific job.
Klopp would be my top choice but Van Gaal, Simeone all have done a terrific job.
Simeone is a great manager but he's style will not go down the best here. We would be pretty much what we have been for the past 2 years minus this crap season. Klopp would be more the right man.
I was all for Moyes at the start when it became apparent that Fergie didn't fancy Mourinho or Pep but it's clear that Moyes is unable to make the transition from being a manager that only ever set up his teams to park the bus in the past and then try to nick a goal on the counter through hoof ball tactics to instead now playing nice attacking football. He is not creative or brave enough to try and play the Utd way and Van Persie obviously can't stand Moyes and a few others in the team too and that is not a good sign. I think we need to get a manager in fast that is trained in the arts of having success playing attractive modern football and not middle ages graham souness hoof ball football that Moyes only seems to know how to play.
We simply can't stick with Moyes come the end of the season...he's been dour the whole way though
Anyone one of Roberto Martinez, Diego Simeone, Maurico Pottechino would do very nicely and would be very gettable and they probably wouldn't need the 200 million Moyes is talking about spending to fix a top squad.....through their contacts abroad they could probably bring in 3 up and coming world class talents for around 60 million quid...Moyes seems to only know about players available that the whole world will be bidding for
We simply can't stick with Moyes come the end of the season...he's been dour the whole way though
Anyone one of Roberto Martinez, Diego Simeone, Maurico Pottechino would do very nicely and would be very gettable and they probably wouldn't need the 200 million Moyes is talking about spending to fix a top squad.....through their contacts abroad they could probably bring in 3 up and coming world class talents for around 60 million quid...Moyes seems to only know about players available that the whole world will be bidding for
Holloway.
We'd be losing with some humor at least.
We'd be losing with some humor at least.
We fecked the Fergie-replacement up good and proper. There's no way we should have appointed anyone but a big-hitter.
The timing was absolutely perfect for Mourinho, and he was clearly gagging for the job.
This discussion is elementary though - we won't get rid of Moyes because it'd undermine the likes of Fergie and Sir Bobby. I just hope we don't cause major damage moving forward.
Make no mistake, we shouldn't be doing this poorly.
The timing was absolutely perfect for Mourinho, and he was clearly gagging for the job.
This discussion is elementary though - we won't get rid of Moyes because it'd undermine the likes of Fergie and Sir Bobby. I just hope we don't cause major damage moving forward.
Make no mistake, we shouldn't be doing this poorly.
I don't get why you are so butthurt, nothing wrong with that comment. Are there any decent British managers around? no. Rodgers plays excellent football but that's about it.
you can also feck right off with your "go support your local team" comment. Us "plastic" glory hunters have every right to voice our views about the team we love.
Klopp is the obvious one like it was in the summer. When we look at who to sign to greatly improve the team we look at the best players in the world. Why should it have been any different with managers?
United way. We hire Moyes instead of Mourinho, we sign Young instead of Mata.
We have acted a bit weird in the last few years.
You can, but in all likelihood most ones at current top clubs won't be leaving.
Moyes tossed out the existing backroom staff, I don't know if he'd allow an new assistant who's not his choice interfering now.
In case we reach a situation where we get desperate and need to sack him this season(don't see that happening at all, unless we like lose the next 6 or 7 games or something), Queiroz would be a good shout..
But yeah IMO he's definitely not getting sacked till Christmas 2014 at the least. Just hope he can get his shit together by then.
Dortmund is his spiritual home and I can't see him wanting to leave there...he is guaranteed Champions League football every year...he is guaranteed many of the top up and coming German talents if Bayern can't find room for them and there is a hell of a lot more of those coming through than English talents. I'd say Klopp is happier at Dortmund than most managers are at the clubs they are at and I just can't see him wanting to leave any time soon
This really is the worst kind of post. From the accusing others of being worse supporters to the "LOL THEY TALK LIKE THIS ROFL" garbage that only makes your own post look that much worthless.
It seems like literally every other post you make involves you talking about how much better a United supporter you are than other people. How did you even get promoted?
Klopp or Simeone. Klopp is just obvious but whether he'd leave is another thing, got a rebuilding job on at the club now with a couple big players leaving. Simeone has done wonders at Athletico, pretty much an average squad but they play excellent football and are tough to beat with every player putting in a good shift. My only concern with him is him pissing off fairly quickly if Barca or whatever come knocking. Don't know why but assume he would.
Aside from Chris Houghton and Paul Lambert, I'd quite happily take any other manager in the league to take us through to the end of the season. Even Big Sam would make us harder to beat, with the players available. I doubt any could make us less attractive to watch and easier to beat.
They'd easily jump at the "resurrect" a club like United with huge resources, some world class players and relatively low pressure. As I said, the ones at Bayern, RM, Chelsea and Man City won't leave.
Admittedly I haven't watched any Seria A this year but Rudi Garcia certainly seems to be doing a good job with Roma after his success at Lille.
van Gaal!? So we spend a year trying to implement a new style of football, then get in a new totally contrasting manager who'll spend the next year doing the same thing. He's also 62, Holland manager, and I absolutely hate his face.
Flavour of the month. Dortmund struggling horrendously this year.
Not really achieved anything. His 'achievements' this season don't count as they haven't actually won anything yet. Their squad is far too small to keep it going on all fronts. Something has to give. Also flavour of the month.
Jesus.
Achieved very little. Did very well with Molde, a totally insignificant club. Had a poor start at Cardiff. Not the revolutionary many expected/hoped.
feck me sideways, lads, these are some God-awful suggestions.
Bit I love Ole Liam
Certainly an attacking orientated manager, that is supposed to be our philosophy to attack not try and steal a 1-0 win mid table Everton style.
Nearly left you out. BIELSA!? The man who was sacked from Bilbao!? Jesus of Nazareth.
Laudrup? Plays the most boring football ever seen in the Premier League. Also realised that playing in two competitions is quite difficult. On the same number of points as Stoke and Norwich and below Aston Villa.
Poor start at Cardiff? Won two games in the FA Cup, lost to us and City, beat Norwich? The only poor part is the loss to West Ham, which was in his first league game with the club.
Have you ever seen Bielsa teams Liam? Do you know why he got sacked in the first place?
Laudrup plays the most boring football ever seen in EPL? Are you serious
Seriously Liam, I understand you, a young guy who tries desperately to act like a 50 years old fan and support the manager when everything is agains it. Don't act like an arse trying to be smart though.
Simeone or Klopp would be ideal, the (remotely realistic) dream. If everyone was available, it'd be Guardiola in an instant. Dont want Martinez or Laudrup anyone like that.
Yes, that was poor. 'Kin West Ham. He's also not getting credit for beating Bolton in the Cup. They played Norwich, who are shite, and were troubled in large parts. Zaha seemed to change the game for them. This is all moot anyway. Solksjaer with, what, three years of managerial experience in Norway comes to manage Manchester United?
No that would be Moyes.
Seriously, do you read what are you writing before you post it?
Klopp flower of the month? Kill me now.
Ole having a poor start? Seriously?
Simeone not having achieved anything? Are you for real, or just an extreme version of Pimpy from the other side of the argument?