Liverpool

feck me.

They're actually going to win the league.

I've never considered the possibility of me seeing this day.

It's been so remote. Now it's all sinking in.
 
Avoid defeat against Chelsea and it's in the bag. However, lose to Chelsea and it's Jose's title. It's all on that match.
 
rpitroda said:
Right. This is pointless. Liverpool will win the league without any luck whatsoever because the club you support is perfect in every single way. Happy now? Let's leave it at that.
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But again, I haven't said we haven't had luck either. Not sure why you're so wound up.
 
gasmanc said:
Rodgers the rodgerer wont need money, with his new teeth and face the Worlds his oyster, Clatters will be around to lap up the dregs.
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Yea and we're going to have Rodgers time, kinda like Fergie time but in reverse. We always score in the first half and have been winning at HT in basically all of our matches so the ref is just going to start blowing it up at HT.
 
Saoirse. said:
Yea and we're going to have Rodgers time, kinda like Fergie time but in reverse. We always score in the first half and have been winning at HT in basically all of our matches so the ref is just going to start blowing it up at HT.
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Perhaps Rodge will start a new boot room up for this little party, modernisation an all.
 
rpitroda said:
I agree, Chelsea have been fortunate in that sense too. But as per my reply to Barney, injuries are something Id class as an area where luck, which happens to any team that wins the league, has been on your side.
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It certainly played a major part in United's treble winning season. So you, & no-one else on here, can complain too much really can you ?

Key players like Schmeichel, G Neville, Irwin, Stam, Beckham, Keane, & Yorke, played in the vast majority of all those games that season. Whereas the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Cole, & Butt, were all pretty much available when it really mattered. Add to that players like Phil Neville, Jesper Blomqvist, & Ronny Johnsen, all chipping in with around about 30 games each. Then chuck in the likes of Ole & Sheringham, & you have a 16 man squad that created history that season.
 
redman5 said:
It certainly played a major part in United's treble winning season. So you, & no-one else on here, can complain too much really can you ?

Key players like Schmeichel, G Neville, Irwin, Stam, Beckham, Keane, & Yorke, played in the vast majority of all those games that season. Whereas the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Cole, & Butt, were all pretty much available when it really mattered. Add to that players like Phil Neville, Jesper Blomqvist, & Ronny Johnsen, all chipping in with around about 30 games each. Then chuck in the likes of Ole & Sheringham, & you have a 16 man squad that created history that season.
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Correct. Who is complaining though? It's an observation. You're the ones getting all peeved off about it. I'm done with this.
 
redman5 said:
It certainly played a major part in United's treble winning season. So you, & no-one else on here, can complain too much really can you ?

Key players like Schmeichel, G Neville, Irwin, Stam, Beckham, Keane, & Yorke, played in the vast majority of all those games that season. Whereas the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Cole, & Butt, were all pretty much available when it really mattered. Add to that players like Phil Neville, Jesper Blomqvist, & Ronny Johnsen, all chipping in with around about 30 games each. Then chuck in the likes of Ole & Sheringham, & you have a 16 man squad that created history that season.
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Players tend to be more injury prone these days. Liverpool and Aston Villa won the league using only 14 players each in the 80s.
 
rpitroda said:
It's not "tosh". But it's clear we won't see eye to eye on this. It's a mute point - ultimately liverpool will win the league because first and foremost you've been a devastating attacking team, some of the best I've seen in recent years. And a massive kudos to Rodgers both tactically and man management. But I don't agree your injury problems have been anywhere near as significant as Cities. Chelsea are comparable. But us (not that we were ever close) and City have had it much worse.
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How much money have City & Chelsea spent on building up their squads ? Injuries should be no excuse for their failings.
 
gasmanc said:
There's a little matter of more games too :)
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Not much of a difference. There were 22 teams in the league in the 80s which is 4 extra games, they had replays in the FA Cup and stuff back then too. Less European games indeed.
 
Sarni said:
Not much of a difference. There were 22 teams in the league in the 80s which is 4 extra games, they had replays in the FA Cup and stuff back then too. Less European games indeed.
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The game tempo was less, the fitness today causes issues, they're athletes on the edge of snapping something every game.
Quite a difference really. No ?
 
gasmanc said:
The game tempo was less, the fitness today causes issues, they're athletes on the edge of snapping something every game.
Quite a difference really. No ?
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Possibly, the intensity have certainly increased and there is probably more mid-week football. Then again the medicine has developed, fitness coaches are better equipped to prepare them and the knowledge about nutrition, training etc. is more vast than it was in the 80s.

Atletico are basically playing with a squad of 15-16 players this season, aren't they? I think they have no more than 15 players with more than 15 starts which is remarkable.
 
thegregster said:
Players tend to be more injury prone these days. Liverpool and Aston Villa won the league using only 14 players each in the 80s.
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So what about the 2007/08 season then ?

VDS, Evra, Ferdinand, Brown, Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Carrick, & Tevez. 9 key players who played a major, injury free part, in United winning the league & CL that season. Then you've got players like Giggs, Scholes, & Nani, all playing 30 plus games each, plus one or two others making up the numbers.

Maybe Fergie really did have a magic sponge that kept injuries at bay. Or maybe it was purely luck.
 
Sarni said:
Possibly, the intensity have certainly increased and there is probably more mid-week football. Then again the medicine has developed, fitness coaches are better equipped to prepare them and the knowledge about nutrition, training etc. is more vast than it was in the 80s.

Atletico are basically playing with a squad of 15-16 players this season, aren't they? I think they have no more than 15 players with more than 15 starts which is remarkable.
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Like Liverpool that cant be maintained, the human body had its limits, training, fitness, nutrition, you cant take a human past its limits without risking everything.

Everything changes next year for Liverpool. Everything.
 
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gasmanc said:
Like Liverpool that cant be maintained, the human body had its limits, training, fitness, nutrition, you cant take ahimsa past its limits without risking everything.

Everything changes next year for Liverpool. Everything.
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Liverpool have a squad to match their current needs though, we don't need a massive squad as we hadn't bought for European football. Obviously next year we will buy players to accommodate the extra games and pressures.
 
gasmanc said:
You posted the lists ! :wenger: Your looking ok as to losing top players in the lists you posted.
Just because your claiming now they're a load of old bollox has nothing to do with me.
Sturridge injury is the only one of any note, you've done brilliantly otherwise but having less games of course you have, its natural. Small squad but the smallest amount of games of any of your contenders, everything is skewed in your favour, injuries to top players(you have the fewest), big games (you have the fewest) and it's mirrored in your injury list (you have the fewest).
Your a tiring bunch of cnuts and call me bitter cause i fuking well am but if you win the title it will be simply because have been so shit previously that you've had less to deal with than all your contenders, European elite, managerial changes, United handing you 6 points under a useless clown etc etc. Don't get me wrong i wish you all well and it will be fitting a quarter century on but the roads not been a rocky one, they've been all but laying the tarmac in front of you.

Penalty anyone ?
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Be honest, have you ever been nominated or won any of the annual Cafe awards and if so, which one?
 
Saoirse. said:
Liverpool have a squad to match their current needs though, we don't need a massive squad as we hadn't bought for European football. Obviously next year we will buy players to accommodate the extra games and pressures.
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Can I first clear up ahimsa isn't even in my vocabulary, I've edited my op to "a human" gay ipad.
You've done brilliantly with what you have but claiming you've not benefited from extra calendar games is folly, injury wise it's benefitted, not a discussion really.

Next years key of course but you will be in transition surely :rolleyes: Unless you've a man in charge that knows what he's feckung doing.
Next year eh :D
 
Do you people honestly believe that the squad of players we currently have will be pretty much the same, & only, bunch of players, that will start off the next season ?

We have a load of lads currently out on loan due to our non-participation in Europe. Add to that players brought in via the cheque-book method, plus one or two young lads coming in through the ranks. I think you're going to be very surprised at the quality, & depth, of our squad next season.
 
a few things are worth mentioning in liverpools title success. deserving winners yes, but:

-the most important role ever played by a single player in a title race. sturridge has done well but without suarez liverpol are 5th

- are they the weakest team to ever win a premier league? i say yes. a very good team, but individually these many of players should never be near a PL trophy

- like all title winners theyve had luck, they have had a huge amount this year and in recent months especially

-and most significant of all. NEVER again will all top 3 teams be undergoing such significant transition with all 3 under new management. its made it more straightforward for them without doubt

-not being in europe cant be underestimated
 
gasmanc said:
The minute twatty said we don't let this slip I thought uh oh ..........
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Have to say, I thought the reaction after the City game was a bit overboard considering we've still got some big challenges before getting over the line.

I think we'll go all the way but if we don't we're going to look like a massive bunch of dickheads.
 
gasmanc said:
Can I first clear up ahimsa isn't even in my vocabulary, I've edited my op to "a human" gay ipad.
You've done brilliantly with what you have but claiming you've not benefited from extra calendar games is folly, injury wise it's benefitted, not a discussion really.

Next years key of course but you will be in transition surely :rolleyes: Unless you've a man in charge that knows what he's feckung doing.
Next year eh :D
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I genuinely shake my head sometimes when I read you posts in sheer whatthefeckery. More or less the first paragraph above is complete jibberish, and the second one seems to be some sort of witty jibe trying to play on making excuses for next year or something (I think...) which isn't even funny.

To suggest next year won't be a transition period of sorts for us is also balls, we haven't been in the competition in 4 years, only about half a dozen of our players have actually played in the competition, moving from sole focus on domestic games to midweek games against top opposition. Any tips?
 
SER19 said:
a few things are worth mentioning in liverpools title success. deserving winners yes, but:

-the most important role ever played by a single player in a title race. sturridge has done well but without suarez liverpol are 5th
Did you even watch the title race last year? Also its a bullshit hypothetical irrelevant argument any team without their main striker would feel the effects of it.

- are they the weakest team to ever win a premier league? i say yes. a very good team, but individually these many of players should never be near a PL trophy
Opinions are like arseholes, we all have one.

- like all title winners theyve had luck, they have had a huge amount this year and in recent months especially
At least United never had an ounce of luck over the last 20 odd years

-and most significant of all. NEVER again will all top 3 teams be undergoing such significant transition with all 3 under new management. its made it more straightforward for them without doubt
Chelsea and City are chasing the title this year, they weren't close to chasing it last year, Chelsea currently have the same number of points with 4 games to play that they finished on last year, City only need 7 more points to match last years final total. United imploding obviously worked in our favour, however its not as though we are sneaking into 4th place at United expense.

-not being in europe cant be underestimated
We weren't in Europe 2 years ago and finished 8th.
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:lol: That's a post that would have proudly featured in the RAWK meltdown thread this time last year had it come from there.
 
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SER19 said:
a few things are worth mentioning in liverpools title success. deserving winners yes, but:

-the most important role ever played by a single player in a title race. sturridge has done well but without suarez liverpol are 5th

- are they the weakest team to ever win a premier league? i say yes. a very good team, but individually these many of players should never be near a PL trophy

- like all title winners theyve had luck, they have had a huge amount this year and in recent months especially

-and most significant of all. NEVER again will all top 3 teams be undergoing such significant transition with all 3 under new management. its made it more straightforward for them without doubt

-not being in europe cant be underestimated
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Weakest team ever (should we win it) to win the PL eh ? I'd love to hear your reasoning before I submit my reply. & the likes of City & Chelsea are probably going to surpass their points total from last season, so their new management has actually improved them from last season. Not to mention the fact that Jose Mourinho is hardly new to Stamford Bridge, plus many of you on here wanted him to take over from Fergie. But maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, as I'm sure you have a solid & concrete foundation on which you base your claims.

Please carry on.
 
Saoirse. said:
I genuinely shake my head sometimes when I read you posts in sheer whatthefeckery. More or less the first paragraph above is complete jibberish, and the second one seems to be some sort of witty jibe trying to play on making excuses for next year or something (I think...) which isn't even funny.

To suggest next year won't be a transition period of sorts for us is also balls, we haven't been in the competition in 4 years, only about half a dozen of our players have actually played in the competition, moving from sole focus on domestic games to midweek games against top opposition. Any tips?
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Christ your all the same, self obsessed geniuses.
My witty jibe was at Moyes, playing on giving a manager time and of course i included the "next year" jibe for good measure.
Should bang out " it's all about you" on the Anfield tannoy.
 
gasmanc said:
Christ your all the same, self obsessed geniuses.
My witty jibe was at Moyes, playing on giving a manager time and of course i included the "next year" jibe for good measure.
Should bang out " it's all about you" on the Anfield tannoy.
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I think my admission that I can't work out your cryptic post may suggest I am far from a genius.
 
SER19 said:
a few things are worth mentioning in liverpools title success. deserving winners yes, but:

-the most important role ever played by a single player in a title race. sturridge has done well but without suarez liverpol are 5th

- are they the weakest team to ever win a premier league? i say yes. a very good team, but individually these many of players should never be near a PL trophy

- like all title winners theyve had luck, they have had a huge amount this year and in recent months especially

-and most significant of all. NEVER again will all top 3 teams be undergoing such significant transition with all 3 under new management. its made it more straightforward for them without doubt

-not being in europe cant be underestimated
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I wish, as a United supporter I could agree with this but I can't. They aren't the weakest team to win it. As a team they are actually very, very good. Rodgers has done a magnificent job.

EDIT: Might agree with them being the weakest squad though, definite case for that argument.
 
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