O do feck off. Rooney has been just as bad as our worst performers all season.
I'm assuming you're not being sarcastic.
Manchester United vs Sunderland (03.05.2014)
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I'm assuming you're not being sarcastic.
How horrid was that midfield paring?
I mean, its become so obvious how much we lack a midfielder capable of putting the ball at his feet and drive through midfield.
I mean, its become so obvious how much we lack a midfielder capable of putting the ball at his feet and drive through midfield.
thought Hernandez should have been taken out.
You've been saving that one up!
Joke!!!!! 
Our home record is appalling!!
I'd love to know just how many goals we've scored at home this season. It's pathetic, embarrassing and I'm feeling enraged.
Even if we aren't worldbeaters we should be able to deliver a better string of home results than what we have this season.
Just...abject! Trying so hard not to swear in this but its very difficult.
Agree with AC. Couldn't care less if half these lot had their jacksie's turfed out of the club.
Our home record is appalling!!
I'd love to know just how many goals we've scored at home this season. It's pathetic, embarrassing and I'm feeling enraged.
Even if we aren't worldbeaters we should be able to deliver a better string of home results than what we have this season.
Just...abject! Trying so hard not to swear in this but its very difficult.
Agree with AC. Couldn't care less if half these lot had their jacksie's turfed out of the club.
id give it to fellani. he sat well on the bench
This season is dying a slow and painful death.
Yep that's it. He's not participated in any shocking defeats this season.
Very poor and a load of classic issues in there. A reliance on width when delivery has been consistently poor (Young put in a couple of good balls earlier in the match tbf), but either way over the past 2 seasons or so, delivery from wide has been more often poor than it has been good. Yet most times we end up making the changes we did today adding strikers for wide players but still focusing on crosses in to the box, this time now from the fullbacks who are no better at crossing than the wingers unsurprisingly.
It's fine for us to have a style (i.e. fast and wide) but you need the players to do it and our have been underperforming for a long time. Carrick/Fletch were poor as well but as usual what are the options centrally for them? When we set up like this no one runs inside from wide, not into the box, so no one is creating space for others or for the midfielders/mata to make a pass.
I think we should have kept on Mata and looked to bring Januzaj to link up with him, RVP could have as well. Its not a definite but we've struggled so much this seasons when teams are organised like this because our wide play isn't good enough atm and it's not like we have may physical presences to create issues for teams.
It's fine for us to have a style (i.e. fast and wide) but you need the players to do it and our have been underperforming for a long time. Carrick/Fletch were poor as well but as usual what are the options centrally for them? When we set up like this no one runs inside from wide, not into the box, so no one is creating space for others or for the midfielders/mata to make a pass.
I think we should have kept on Mata and looked to bring Januzaj to link up with him, RVP could have as well. Its not a definite but we've struggled so much this seasons when teams are organised like this because our wide play isn't good enough atm and it's not like we have may physical presences to create issues for teams.
I actually saw him morph into Moyes towards the end standing on the touchline,doing sod all except have a glazed look in his eyes.I could do that
I agree. Fletcher and carrick in MF is a joke. If they are still starting next season i give up.
Nearly puked up after that display. Their goalkeeper went off fresher than when he started the match. He did not have to make 1 save in the game. What a terrible, terrible performance.
What's so disappointing is that we lost & I wasn't expecting it. Under Moyes I accepted a loss as I didn't expect us to win.
maybe its actually david moyes wearing a ryan giggs face mask like in mission impossible
I thought it was going to happen as well. Mata was the only one in our starting XI that is capable of finding a proper pass to split the defence. Welbeck - Mata - RVP - Januzaj would have been better than Welbeck - Januzaj - Hernandez - RVP
Well that's it really.Passion and commitment can get you far but take it away and take creativity with you and you have results like this
yea to the firing squad
I'm really struggling to see how we need to sell a load of players because Moyes ruined them. I'm seeing the need for a big change because the player are either past it or don't have the right attitude and application.
Takes it off to reveal ......more shit football.Never saw that coming
The key question here is... why? Was it the motivation? Obviously not. So why? There's shit going down behind closed doors that we don't know about.
everyone mentioning the wide play....its our non existent midfield. Carrick went up the first few times and then back to normal....besides slipping several times. Fletcher...hang up your boots end of the season. Love the lad...but retire son.
Well there's certainly shit on the pitch that we can see and smell
Van Gaal will beat into them professionalism and attitude. If not, they can feck off. Wearing the United jersey ought to mean something!
That is true when he wasn't fit, but when he has been fit than he was one of the few this season that hasn't massively underperformed on a very consistent basis. That list also includes Januzaj, DDG and Mata. All the rest has been shown out this season for what they truely are, not good enough, I'll throw a bone to RVP because he hasn't been fit either (and when he was he scored the goals).
United in the last couple of games, not brilliant, but not far as fecked as they were today. Difference between United today and last week (en the weeks before) Rooney on the pitch.
But no go on and bitch how he is the personification of every single problem here at United, while the truth maybay closer to the opposite.
Why need to change the pair of wingers from last week???
My observations on todays team.
Ashley Young looked like he playing with a haunch back whenever he gets the ball with his back facing the opponents goal?
Nani is already dreaming about the world cup.
Darren Fletcher runs 20 feet with the ball before passing 5 feet to another player.
Hernandez is not a ball player and yet he is coming back to mid-field to collect the ball. He should be running into spaces when United has the ball and attacking.
Carrick is slow and frequently loose his footing and looked like a player on the take?
Ryan Giggs and the rest of the "class of 92" is scared of leaving out those senior players.
Hope that Van Gaal will get rid of the dead woods.
I suggest for the rest of the games, play the reserves and let all the senior player go on their holidays.
Some of them looked tired and some lost interest.
My observations on todays team.
Ashley Young looked like he playing with a haunch back whenever he gets the ball with his back facing the opponents goal?
Nani is already dreaming about the world cup.
Darren Fletcher runs 20 feet with the ball before passing 5 feet to another player.
Hernandez is not a ball player and yet he is coming back to mid-field to collect the ball. He should be running into spaces when United has the ball and attacking.
Carrick is slow and frequently loose his footing and looked like a player on the take?
Ryan Giggs and the rest of the "class of 92" is scared of leaving out those senior players.
Hope that Van Gaal will get rid of the dead woods.
I suggest for the rest of the games, play the reserves and let all the senior player go on their holidays.
Some of them looked tired and some lost interest.
We probably could have sacrificed Hernandez earlier and given Welbeck and RVP more time to work. He looked anything but a striker today.
And both of them stayed on but the Spaniard was taken off......the ugly face of racism at Utd
I suppose that's what you get from fielding a severely 2nd tier lineup up front. We failed to make any chances of note and our wingers were absolutely dire out there. The only saving grace for them was that they were pulled off early, whereas our central midfield duo of Carrick and Fletcher stayed the course. Absolutely woeful the both of them.
Other clubs are really going to fleece us if we go in for their central midfielders this summer. They just know we are desperate.
The only positive is that this puts us firmly out of the Europa League. Thank feck for that.
Other clubs are really going to fleece us if we go in for their central midfielders this summer. They just know we are desperate.
The only positive is that this puts us firmly out of the Europa League. Thank feck for that.
I'm pretty confident we'd have won under Moyes, he'd figured how to play against the lesser teams in the end. Just no one else.
Its great having Giggs on the sidelines as a gimmick but id rather we'd just let Moyes stay out the season rather than doing this to a legend.
That's only 8 negatives...phew! I thought you were going to call for major changes
Moyes was getting rid of a lot of players. hernandez was gone, ferdinand, evra, fletcher, carrick, young maybe. what happened is that they realized there is no point playing for him and hence we played shit.
The irish pundits have been going on and on for about five years now, that the man utd MF is shocking. The CMs are rubbish, the wingers are rubbish.
Ferguson like mourinho got the a team out of them. But they cant pass, retain the ball or make the right decision. Only mata looks good.
A big clearout is needed.
The irish pundits have been going on and on for about five years now, that the man utd MF is shocking. The CMs are rubbish, the wingers are rubbish.
Ferguson like mourinho got the a team out of them. But they cant pass, retain the ball or make the right decision. Only mata looks good.
A big clearout is needed.
I agree, Van Gaal seems more and more appropriate as the new manager, he's supposed to be a tough old bastard, and these players need a bloody good kick up the arse.
No way, we are well rid of Moyes.
Building a team around Mata - really?
True and our wide players, in particular, were atrocious today (no surprises there considering the lack of quality). I think the higher tempo football that we wanted would have led to more chances being created though.
You'd think with the amount of leaks we've had this season, that would have come out. I think it might be more to do with the confidence being so low from the poor season that it's hard to pick them up.
So you're a nasty person and a bully. Is it just today or as per usual? Just curiousOh Snap!
Has to be van gaal with a few summer signings as well.
the match is meaningless. giggsy probably just giving chicha a chance to hit some form. he's a lethal striker but he's rusty and low on confidence.
Carrick has been one of our worst players this season, massive blame falls on his shoulders for our collapse since Fergie left. Truely this guy has fallen so low comparred to his performances last year.
We have always said, we don't have the best midfield, but alteast we have Carrick and when he is fit, he performs on a consistent basis. This season, he is actually been one of our worst midfielders, says it all about this season.
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