United linked with van Gaal in the meeja

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Why are we being linked with Conte? His tactics has been proven ineffective in Europe and the guy is only capable of winning at home where Juventus are superior both in terms of money and transfers. FFS he doesn't even sign his own players (the director of football find and sign new players at Juve).

Even Moyes would have won the Serie A with Juventus

This post...I don't even....but Moyes...Nah feck it.
 
The more I think about it the more concerned I am about this.

Not that Van Gaal isnt well equipped to deal with this, but still, it would be a damaging spat and its an unnecessary risk. I dont know what Giggs would bring to the role of assistant manager that is worth the risk of it. What is he actually going to learn watching Van Gaal that he hasnt already picked up watching SAF as a senior player with his ear?

He needs to cut his teeth out in the real world, on his own. He doesnt need to be put in the middle of an authoritarian new manager making quite difficult decisions and a squad full of his own friends and colleagues.

Till now I have been ambivalent about Giggs being assistant but Im gravitating towards being actively against it now.

I question as well how he can go from being manager to assistant manager. You dont see business men going from CEO to a lower position.

Having said that i dont think giggs is cut our for managing anyhow. His body language is all wrong. Moyes used stand on the touch line with his hands in his pockets like a shy kid in the playground and giggs does the same.

But he has to keep quite. You rarely saw mike phelan or rene meuleteen give media interviews when ferguson was the man. He would have fired them if he did.

But for me i would like you say remove these generals from the equation. Its what Stalin used do. Its what ferguson would do with players.
 
Louis' such a tease.
He's actually starting to remind me of the managerial equivalent of Christopher Walken with his theatrics.
I could even imagine him doing the dance from Fatboy Slim's Weapon of Choice video...
 
I question as well how he can go from being manager to assistant manager. You dont see business men going from CEO to a lower position.

Having said that i dont think giggs is cut our for managing anyhow. His body language is all wrong. Moyes used stand on the touch line with his hands in his pockets like a shy kid in the playground and giggs does the same.

But he has to keep quite. You rarely saw mike phelan or rene meuleteen give media interviews when ferguson was the man. He would have fired them if he did.

But for me i would like you say remove these generals from the equation. Its what Stalin used do. Its what ferguson would do with players.

I think LVG is big enough to deal with Giggs but I agree that a total clean break would be better. You only have to see the ridiculous reaction when we beat Norwich to understand how sentiment can overwhelm logic when it comes to a legendary player. If things don't go immediately to plan under LVG (and they probably won't), we don't want constant mutterings about Giggs and the class of 92 wanting a return to the "United Way". Maybe I am doing Giggs a disservice and he would respect a coach with hugely more accomplishments on his CV than Moyes had, but I think it would be better for both parties if Giggs took a coaching or managerial position elsewhere.
 
I doubt anyone with any hope of doing anything with the career will listen to what Le Tissier has to say, "whats that Matt? and end up never having done anything with my career like you?"
True but with this whole LVG thing dragging on for no discernible reason the "uncertainty" bit will have resonated.
 
I think even Philip Neville can win the Serie A with Juventus. They are a solid side build on solid foundations and surrounded by clubs who are in a right mess.

:wenger::lol:

I can see why your name has been repeatedly mentioned in the shit posters thread.
 
Why are we being linked with Conte? His tactics has been proven ineffective in Europe and the guy is only capable of winning at home where Juventus are superior both in terms of money and transfers. FFS he doesn't even sign his own players (the director of football find and sign new players at Juve).

Even Moyes would have won the Serie A with Juventus

Wow and they say I am harsh... you lack tact man...
 
He did say exactly that. For all we know in a couple of days, Conte could announce himself as Manchester United manager. Conte seems unhappy but there are no top jobs open right now except for ours that would be an upgrade on Juventus.
Monaco apparently want him and are ready to triple his wages or something ridiculous like that, if that did happen I wonder if he'd try and sign Vidal from Juventus?
 
:wenger::lol:

I can see why your name has been repeatedly mentioned in the shit posters thread.
In his defence two of their biggest rivals (Inter and AC) have self-imploded in recent years but then again Roma have been excellent this year and Napoli seem to be constantly getting better.
 


Not sure if posted... not a done deal then... maybe, feck knows.
 
I think LVG is big enough to deal with Giggs but I agree that a total clean break would be better. You only have to see the ridiculous reaction when we beat Norwich to understand how sentiment can overwhelm logic when it comes to a legendary player. If things don't go immediately to plan under LVG (and they probably won't), we don't want constant mutterings about Giggs and the class of 92 wanting a return to the "United Way". Maybe I am doing Giggs a disservice and he would respect a coach with hugely more accomplishments on his CV than Moyes had, but I think it would be better for both parties if Giggs took a coaching or managerial position elsewhere.

I have a big issue with the class of 92 also. Paul scholes goes on sky criticizing the manager (subtly it most be said) and other players. David may gives out on MUTV. G Neville says united must play a certain way. Giggs doesnt approve of a certain method......

Although he is not in the class of 92, rio is on twitter telling us how it should be done. Id say thats why he is now unemployed because he couldnt shut up on twitter

These things undermine the manager. ferguson would not allow them and hopefully Van Gaal wont.

In fairness ed woodward is making a statement of recent by severing ties with a few big guns. Thats how you do it. I just hope though it is Van Gaal who is signing the players and not eddy
 
Sounds like he's getting pissed off with all the questions frankly.

I guess we are just waiting for the right time to announce it, unless we are talking to other managers too?
 
FFS calm down. It's done, the club just need to announce the thing. He can say nothing other than what he's said. Club need to announce it.
 
Strikes me as a warning to be honest. Deal with it or I'm off - I have others chasing and I'll only wait so long.
This is exactly what I am afraid of that the club are arsing about and will piss him off so much he will get another offer. I have no real logic behind this just an uneasy feeling that vanGaal is the new thiago/fabregas for us.
 
Van Gaal has certainly displayed a lot of patience there. It's a press conference about the Dutch National team. Why the feck does the journos keep asking him about United? I would be pissed if i'm a Dutch supporter really
 
FFS calm down. It's done, the club just need to announce the thing. He can say nothing other than what he's said. Club need to announce it.
Yep, I expect it will be done after he announces his Dutch squad? Or has that already been done?
I have no doubt LVG will be our next manager

It is annoying though, why do we take so fecking long to do anything. All this dithering and dragging our feet.
 
it does look like united are starting to drag thier feet on this one, the guy obviously want to be united manager, so it seems like the delay is our end...... wish i know what was happning
 
Van Gaal being extremely professional for Dutch International and United by deflecting every question about his future. Journos clearly know it's happening so they trying to almost force the entire deal to just move on, ASAP.

Decision belongs to Manchester United and when Louie said that this club is the biggest in the world, he paid even more respect to everyone here.

Can't see that not happening as Giggs also said his future must be decided very soon and wanting the same thing.
 
don't understand why they are taking so long. It almost looks like they are waiting for someone else and keeping LVG on the long finger
 
He's getting pissed off with the reporters rather than United in my opinion.

I reckon we are just waiting for the right time to unveil him properly and to do that we need him to be free for a few days, something he obviously isn't right now. I think we've also told him that it's the club that needs to make the announcement hence why he is getting aggitated by the questions as the last thing he want's to do is accidentally reveal it. "Ask Manchester.... or another club".
 
In his defence two of their biggest rivals (Inter and AC) have self-imploded in recent years but then again Roma have been excellent this year and Napoli seem to be constantly getting better.

Roma has been doing better but they are still recovering from the change of the guard between Sensi and the new owners. Many forget how close they were to bankruptcy a few years back. Napoli are also a good side however their owner is a bit cuckoo. Both clubs are in no position to seriously compete with juve
 
Van Gaal being extremely professional for Dutch International and United by deflecting every question about his future. Journos clearly know it's happening so they trying to almost force the entire deal to just move on, ASAP.

Decision belongs to Manchester United and when Louie said that this club is the biggest in the world, he paid even more respect to everyone here.

Can't see that not happening as Giggs also said his future must be decided very soon and wanting the same thing.


Exactly. They all know it's happening and it's the journalists that are making this seem like a protracted saga when really it's not at all. He's with the dutch squad while advising the board what he wants to happen. When he's free he will be unveiled.

All the journalists just want their name down as getting the scoop and being the one that asks the right question.
 
Roma has been doing better but they are still recovering from the change of the guard between Sensi and the new owners. Many forget how close they were to bankruptcy a few years back. Napoli are also a good side however their owner is a bit cuckoo. Both clubs are in no position to seriously compete with juve
It's a shame really, Serie A could end up being the current Bundesliga at this rate. And Inter and AC just seem to be getting weaker too.
 
Sounds like he's getting pissed off with all the questions frankly.

I guess we are just waiting for the right time to announce it, unless we are talking to other managers too?
I'd say that's a given.
 
Just read VG's comments from his presser. It sounds like we're courting someone else as well, the only people at this time we should be trying to sign up (who isn't VG) is Pep or Ancelotti. We're wasting our time if we're chasing Klopp, give him a couple more seasons and wait until are team is a little more stable before handing him the job.
 
Strikes me as a warning to be honest. Deal with it or I'm off - I have others chasing and I'll only wait so long.

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Listen, if we are going after someone with LVG on the back burner (I dont think we are though) then it would have to be one of the big shots like Jose. Pep, Ancelotti or Klopp. Personally I would prefer LVG over Ancelotti
 
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Strikes me as a warning to be honest. Deal with it or I'm off - I have others chasing and I'll only wait so long.
It's obvious he wants the job though so I doubt he'd jeopardize his possible position by "warning" his possible future employers, he knows that he's probably second choice and yet he's still around so not sure if there is any warning there at all.
 
If we don't announce him as our new coach before the World Cup starts I don't think he will be. Either that or we're waiting for the World Cup to be over so there is no distractions. I hope we hear something this week, every journo in the world was saying it's a done deal two weeks ago.
 
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