The fact he is shite means he's shite fella, it's got nothing to do with anything else.
You don't need to make it personal on any level, with me, with him, with you, what ever.
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The fact he is shite means he's shite fella, it's got nothing to do with anything else.
You don't need to make it personal on any level, with me, with him, with you, what ever.
Honestly, can you remember this and how it felt? The helplessness and desperation. I'm so fecking excited to see this guy in action and I'm not worried one but about our signings.
Moyes is gone now, give it a rest.
He will sort them out once he drops his pants in the dressing room, no worries.
I'm looking forward to seeing what he can accomplish at United, it won't be as bad as with Moyes for what it's worth!
What's even more impressive, is the likes of De Guzman aren't that great. Does anyone think LvG can seriously turn Fellaini into something? De Jong and De Guzman bossed Spain
I take great pleasure occasionally reminding myself and others of the fact.
If Holland do really well at this tournament and every performance is as emphatic as yestereve's, it'll really raise LvG's profile in the English game and make players want to play under him.
The fact everyone was shite last season chief, not one player in midfield had a good season. He was doomed as soon as he was bought since he wasnt Fabregas or Thiago. The cretins on here who dont give players a two games to prove themselves let alone two seasons wont admit it. Big afro, big lanky lad, big price tag, poor season and he is automatically shit. Do one
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I'm really excited for the next season. I LVG can destroy Spain with this Holland's squad can you imagine what he can do with United? It just doesn't get better than that - Spain is currently number 1 in world football and let's face it - other than RVP and Robben Holland is very average...
As it's been stated before, LVG prefers to work with the players he has, improve them, adapt them to his system more than buying ready-made stars. However, I'm sure he realises we do need some quality in midfield. Hopefully Shaw goes through and we can get an experienced CB. Wouldn't be surprised if LVG chooses to pick some young players from academy. Butt's input will be very key in informing LVG which players are ready for the step up into the first team.
I would love to see a team mixed with youth and experience playing smart, attacking football. I think LVG will enjoy working in the PL. Not as tactically heavy as other leagues and lots of space to exploit in transition.
I would love to see a team mixed with youth and experience playing smart, attacking football. I think LVG will enjoy working in the PL. Not as tactically heavy as other leagues and lots of space to exploit in transition.
That is the thing with LVG, he can destroy the opponents squad like hardly anybody else - but he can also destroy his own squad like hardly anybody else. If the team, board and fans supports him he will most likely do a great job, if any of these parts starts cracking we may end up in a relegation battle.
That is a good point, it is maybe the worst league tactically which is a great thing for LVG to exploit. But at the same time England is the most ignorant place for tactics from the media and fans - so any original tactic/formation that doesn't work will be treated like an absolute madness from LVG.
I think the holland players were nervous. Keep in mind the likes of De Vrij, Martins Indi, De Guzman, Blind, Janmaat, Cillessen didn't play at last World Cup. Plus they were playing against the reigning champions. Easy to see how for a period of time these youngsters got overawed by the occasion.
I was impressed how they bounced back though. They'll be surging with belief now.
did you forget about the sniejder chance at even before Spain got their penalty? If we factor in that one, match could have been completely different
I'm pretty sure LVG will have massive support. Last season proved that everyone at United can be very patient. And I don't believe LVG will test our patience as much as Moyes did.
Haha yes! A blessing and a curse. The only thing I'm worried about is in LVG's past he's been known to start slow and culture in England isnt the most patient.
If there's one thing the English press are good at doing, it's blowing things out of proportion all the time.
But once he gets going, the team really clicks into gear. Even though LVG is a top manager, I think this will require collective effort from everyone. Board can't be too trigger happy unless it's looking disastrous again. Players hopefully are receptive to his methods and fans stay vocal in supporting the team. I think once we get over the hump, we'll be flying. That's the hope anyway.
I agree that United is the perfect place for LVG in terms of the fans being very patient and the board giving, well even expecting, a lot of responsibility from the manager.
He will test our patience though, just in a very different way from Moyes. But fan favorites will be deemed non-worthy of playing in the first team or even sold and big names is something he won't give a shit about so even a Rooney may be gone - which will cause an upset unless we perform extraordinarily good - or if Rooney does so in another club.
These are my only worries as well. I can certainly see LVG trying a three man defense or anything of the likes and running in to typical media slurs that spreads and becomes facts like "The English league is too tough, hard and fast for X tactic". Like it is now a very popular statement to question all players who aren't proven in the Premier league because it is so tough, hard and fast they probably can't handle it.
It actually made sense when the EPL had the best teams, and the best overall quality - which we don't anymore but the slurs sticks and it takes years for them to go away. It is hilarious when you see some Dortmund player linked with us, but it is deemed a poor purchase because after all he has just proven himself in the CL, WC and the Bundesliga - but you never know if he can handle the toughness and pace of the EPL.
In terms of media pressure this is going to be the hardest job he will ever take, unless he starts managing the English NT.
Ha! if he manages the English NT, I might start counting cards just to occupy myself!
I know what you mean. The slurs stick. That's what annoys me. Sometimes, a player just isn't suited for the EPL. It doesn't necessarily mean the player is poor. I think of Sahin as an example and since Brits I know dont rate Bundesliga because of Bayer's hegemony they rate player like Sahin in lower esteem just because he didn't prove himself at Liverpool. I just dont like the idea EPL is measuring stick for foreign players. EPL has its qualities which make it stand out from other leagues, but that doesn't necessarily make it best league in the world (entirely different discussion) and if you dont do well here, you're shit. Not always the case.
Interesting to see a lot of the players credit Van Gaal a lot for the victory last night, the likes of Van Persie and Robben especially. He does seem like he builds bonds with key players. That can only be a good sign.
Obviously we can't get ahead of ourselves with excitement for what he will do for us, but that was a great result last night with a less than star-studded squad. Even the starting line-up lacks real big names outside Van Persie, Robben and to a lesser extent these days Sneijder.
Obviously we can't get ahead of ourselves with excitement for what he will do for us, but that was a great result last night with a less than star-studded squad. Even the starting line-up lacks real big names outside Van Persie, Robben and to a lesser extent these days Sneijder.
What else did you expect them to do?
No, as I said, the fact he isn't very good and never has been means he isn't very good.
I caught you before your edit as well
Don't post angry fella, it just makes you look a twat.
Its especially ridiculous when the majority of the players in the league are foreign. 60% according to one study and in some studies even more.
What do my thoughts on what they should have done against a solid Dutch side yesterday have to to do with my opinion that Spain never have a Plan B in general?
I'm just curious what qualifies as a Plan B to you. Because it means different things specifically to different people.
I just like this. The warmth his old Barcelona players have towards him after all these years shows what a good man manager he is. People talk about Van Gaal like he's this ogre from below the earth's surface. This video shows, much like Fergie, those who respect Van Gaal and his authority clearly get treated like family and those bonds stick.
Ye i think its way over blown and its no surprise that the players who apparently had a bad running with him all had attitude problems, Rivaldo, Zlatan, Ribery(even though he improved the frenchman immensely), Giovani etc. You always get these quotes thrown around but never th
You'd be more surprised if a manager didn't have a problem with some of those.
Could the 3-5-2 work at United?
It would allow Mata - Rooney - Van Persie fit together like Sneidjer - Robben - Van Persie yesterday. Rafael and Shaw/Evra would be covered by the three centre back's so they could concentrate on attacking. I think it could work.
It would allow Mata - Rooney - Van Persie fit together like Sneidjer - Robben - Van Persie yesterday. Rafael and Shaw/Evra would be covered by the three centre back's so they could concentrate on attacking. I think it could work.
Ah, I understand. Maybe Plan B isn't the best way to put it, but what I mean is that if Spain aren't in control of the ball and dictating the speed of the game then they struggle. They can't adapt their style once other teams start controlling the game. It's a plan that usually works for them because they're so damn good.
Could the 3-5-2 work at United?
It would allow Mata - Rooney - Van Persie fit together like Sneidjer - Robben - Van Persie yesterday. Rafael and Shaw/Evra would be covered by the three centre back's so they could concentrate on attacking. I think it could work.
The qualityand tactical genius van Gaal has.hed walk us back to the top 3.
Christ i cant to see whohe brings in,ive no worries in his own head he knows and has his inside counsel on tapping them upeven thogh he says hes completelty focused on Holland,his foresight has to include us as well in some wee crevicein his mind.
Won me a ton too last night the wee beautys.
Ah yes. it's the age old debate of if you continue with finding a way to make plan A work or switch to a plan B, whatever that means (fundamentalism v pragmatism).
I remember watching a U-21 world cup final where Spain were playing their usual patient, tiki taka game and not really having any breakthrough with it. It was reaching the final minutes and you wondered if they were going to switch it up because it really seemed like they needed to. Yet they stuck to their plan and eventually grabbed the winner in the dying seconds. That's an example choosing to stick with Plan A even though it doesnt seem to be working. But you can find examples where Plan B works too. My point is sometimes, even when you want to change Plan A, you may be better off sticking with it and making slight adjustment rather than trying to switch to Plan B which may or may not work. I feel like the gamble is 50/50 but I could be wrong with that.
Good point, and I agree.
I really like how the Netherlands played/set up yesterday. Great pressing and quick, lethal countering. That fourth goal was something straight out of vintage United. Force the turnover in their own end and that brilliant quick long ball from Sneijder to Robben was perfect. If van Gaal can start to bring that sort of play back to the club, even just a little bit, we'll all be so relived after the nightmare last season.
I honestly believe he only played a 532 yesterday because it was against a team that likes to hog possession. It was just really good management - setting up a team based who they are playing not a set system ala Moyes.
It does make me feel a lot more optimistic over the appointment because for years people have thought the best way to beat possession teams is to play very defensive but at least Van Gaal is looking to attack instead of sitting back and nicking a goal...
Could the 3-5-2 work at United?
It would allow Mata - Rooney - Van Persie fit together like Sneidjer - Robben - Van Persie yesterday. Rafael and Shaw/Evra would be covered by the three centre back's so they could concentrate on attacking. I think it could work.
I can see where you're going with that and it's a tasty-looking set-up, but I think that has a lot to do with including a Strootman-Schweinsteiger CM. With those two available, I'd rather stick to our 4231, sacrificing that third CB for including Januzaj in a flexible AM trio (with Rooney and Mata or with them competing for the central spot and another winger thrown in), and playing more traditional full-backs.
Firstly I definitely want Januzaj to be part of our default starting XI next season. And secondly I don't think either Shaw or Rafael are that well suited to the wing-back role. Shaw's attacking is promising but his strength is his defensive reliability. And those who've actually watched Rafael in the last few years (rather than thinking he's still 2010 Rafa like so many oppo fans seem to) know he's also a serious defensive asset. Within that system he'd just be a slightly mediocre winger.
It's the top quality midfield which makes your system look great, but with those two our current system also looks great, and would better suit our existing resources.
No, as I said, the fact he isn't very good and never has been means he isn't very good.
I caught you before your edit as well
Don't post angry fella, it just makes you look a twat.
Well I wasnt sure whether you had a vagina or not..im still not sure. Fellaini is a good player but I will reserve judgement on his United career after I see what LvG can do with him. I will take his opinion over some androgynous poster on Redcafe
Could the 3-5-2 work at United?
It would allow Mata - Rooney - Van Persie fit together like Sneidjer - Robben - Van Persie yesterday. Rafael and Shaw/Evra would be covered by the three centre back's so they could concentrate on attacking. I think it could work.
against the big sides such as chelsea or city then this would work imo. bodies at the back, stability in midfield and of course great attacking players there.
i would prefer to sacrifice a CB for a midfielder or winger and revert to a back 4 against the weaker sides though.
hopefully van gaal got plenty of ideas and knowing him being flexible with his tactics and formation, then we could see some changes for certain games.
still need to make 4 signings to have that line up though.
Could the 3-5-2 work at United?
It would allow Mata - Rooney - Van Persie fit together like Sneidjer - Robben - Van Persie yesterday. Rafael and Shaw/Evra would be covered by the three centre back's so they could concentrate on attacking. I think it could work.
You need pace for that system to work perfectly and catch other teams on the counter. We lack that in your line-up
I see what ye mean. It could be useful against the stronger teams but for the majority of the season we could play a 4-2-3-1 especially if we sign Strootman and Schweinsteiger.
Replace Rooney with Sanchez?
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