Louis van Gaal | Manchester United manager

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Brilliant quotes. No kissing, straight in there.

"If he operates like this at Old Trafford, despite results there will be an outcry."

From who? Ferguson & Charlton? Tough, we're moving on lads. Your previous spineless choice caused more outcry last season than anything in the last 20 years.
 
At least it won't be dull Moyes conferences.:D

I think that is actually a big thing.

Alastair is right in that much like when things are going well Mourinho can be entertaining in his press conferences, but when things go wrong like they did for him in Madrid it can turn from being entertaining to deeply annoying. After a year of Moyes though it will just be nice to have a manager who has self confidence, who actually has something to say rather than the white noise that Moyes provided.
 
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Nah, returning to winning ways would be welcomed after last season's horror show.

I like the way he answers the bloody press. Straight forward, with the right condenscensing tone.
Van Gaal specialises on adapting his system to the type of players in his team. He wants results first and foremost. Holland cannot play open, attacking and expansive football with the lack of solid defenders in their backline. However this isn't exactly how Van Gaal wants them to play like. He really wants Holland to be better in possession but understandably the younger players are a bit nervous with the ball.
 
I think that is actually a big thing.

Alastair is right in that much like when things are going well Mourinho can be entertaining in his press conferences, but when things go wrong like they did for him in Madrid it can turn from being entertaining to deeply annoying. After a year of Moyes though it will just be nice to have a manager who has self confidence, who actually has something to say rather than the white noise that Moyes provided.
I agree. 70+ Sir Alex Ferguson certainly was not sulky, thriving for attention person. He also would not entertain anything stupid or frivolous. So if decided time and time again to go for moaning or some explosive, controversial stuff on these conferences certainly he felt it can help the team. And given how successful he was, one can easily make a case it did.
 
Criticizing Holland's team for the lack of attacking play while they actually scored what, 10 goals in 3 games is completely mental. Some people just don't get football is all. If have a ball for 60% and just passing it around near center circle that's not attacking.
 
Brilliant quotes. No kissing, straight in there.



From who? Ferguson & Charlton? Tough, we're moving on lads. Your previous spineless choice caused more outcry last season than anything in the last 20 years.

From the media I'd imagine. They're going to absoultely love to love him and love to hate him and be generally terrified of him.
 
I think that is actually a big thing.

Alastair is right in that much like when things are going well Mourinho can be entertaining in his press conferences, but when things go wrong like they did for him in Madrid it can turn from being entertaining to deeply annoying. After a year of Moyes though it will just be nice to have a manager who has self confidence, who actually has something to say rather than the white noise that Moyes provided.

Id rather have LvG than a visually impaired specialist in failure Pepe Le Pewing his way through press conferences and interviews
 
One thing you can't accuse Kuyt for is a lack of stamina. Plus according to the Fenerbache doctors he has the body of a 27 year old.

Kuyt has pretty much been a quasi wing back for most of his career in the top flight.

Have the police been informed?
 
Not only that, but absolutely noone in the press, among the pundits, etc. mentioned even once (at least I didn't read it) that Moyes never talks about tactics. And even when he used the word "philosophy" he never ever defined it. He kept talking about his "ideas" for next season/long term but never ever explained them. All he said was he watched Bayern and liked how they play through the middle. Well, 81 crosses against Fulham say Hi! I still get aggressive when I think about it! 10 months and NOTHING about tactics or philosophy!!! Not by Moyes, not by the press. But ofc both the press and Moyes couldn't wait to blame our players whenever possible. Great approach!
Don't remind me. I've lost count of how many losses I watched at OT last season, but the Fulham one was the only one where I left alsolutely infuriated.
Tactical flexibility...can not wait.
This is probably what I've been most impressed with. Both on a game -to-game basis and within a single game. He can change his team around to exploit the opposition. His substitutions have been spot on as well.


I'm so excited for his arrival. I love his confidence. He doesn't give a shit about public opinion. I also don't get the Dutch obsession with 4-3-3. LvG is winning games playing this group of largely limited players the way he is setting them up. There is no reason for the Dutch journo a to be complaining. I read an article this morning in the Telegraph which suggested adhering to their Total Football principles was more important than winning which just seems a bit silly given the lack of quality in various parts of the squad to play that way effectively.
 
One thing you can't accuse Kuyt for is a lack of stamina. Plus according to the Fenerbache doctors he has the body of a 27 year old.

Kuyt has pretty much been a quasi wing back for most of his career in the top flight.

I have the body of a 27 year old and it's really not that impressive.
 
The idea of 3-5-2 is really growing on me. I think that formation would be beneficial for pretty much all of our players (except Nani and Young, who are shit anyway)

Rooney and Van Persie - both could start in their best position, without it hindering the balance of the team
Mata - could start in his best position, with two lethal forwards to create for
Welbeck - more games centrally, rather than out wide
Januzaj - would get to play centrally
Kagawa - he would have to compete with Mata but he would get opportunities at no.10 rather than out wide
Evra - less defensive responsibility
Rafael - more license to bomb forwards
Jones - would get to establish himself as a CB, yet still making use of some of his other attributes
Smalling - more chance to establish himself as a CB
Evans - would relish having license to bring the ball out from defence
Carrick - could play either in the midfield two, or against weaker sides as a ball-playing centre back
Cleverley, Fellaini - neither look good enough in a midfield two, they would benefit from being in a midfield three IMO
 
As a side note, there is an annoying trend these days of people construing low possession stats, ceding possession and playing on the counter attack as "defensive" or "anti" football. When in reality the tactic is just about getting the best out of your pacy forwards.

Chile had only 1 shot on target. So what's the point of possession and trying to pass it around?
 
As a side note, there is an annoying trend these days of people construing low possession stats, ceding possession and playing on the counter attack as "defensive" or "anti" football. When in reality the tactic is just about getting the best out of your pacy forwards.

Chile had only 1 shot on target. So what's the point of possession and trying to pass it around?

I've said this for a while. United's main issue this year was their inability to drop back and invite their opponents on to them, creating space and angles in the process.

Mourinho's old Chelsea team perfected it with Makelele holding the midfield from deep and Robben and Duff hitting on the break.

Due to our fraility at the back and lack of pace/clinical play going forward we ended up sitting in the opponents half passing it nowhere as they hold shape and cut out the angles. Moyes had no idea what to do to remedy it.
 
quite interesting quotes from a guy normally renowed for attacking football... don't really no what to make of them.
Didn't he say he's flexible? Anyway I like this style of him even more, it's mix of counterattacking football and strategic plan, as long as it isn't too negative I don't think anyone would complain, except the losing team. It's pretty impressive that he can make the most out of Holland national team (which 60--70% their players are average IMO), I feel more optimistic about Cleverley's future now.
 
quite interesting quotes from a guy normally renowed for attacking football... don't really no what to make of them.

He's said similar things before and I find it encouraging that he is so flexible. It makes perfect sense that Holland had to take a different tactical approach (than the traditional Dutch style) to the Spain game in order to have the best chance of winning. Spain have a much better squad and dominated the possession, but got completely smashed by LVG's tactics.

Obviously it's preferable to dominate the game in terms of possession if possible, but if you can't (because you don't have the players for it), then you have to find another way to win which is exactly what LVG and Holland have done.
 
The idea of 3-5-2 is really growing on me. I think that formation would be beneficial for pretty much all of our players (except Nani and Young, who are shit anyway)

Rooney and Van Persie - both could start in their best position, without it hindering the balance of the team
Mata - could start in his best position, with two lethal forwards to create for
Welbeck - more games centrally, rather than out wide
Januzaj - would get to play centrally
Kagawa - he would have to compete with Mata but he would get opportunities at no.10 rather than out wide
Evra - less defensive responsibility
Rafael - more license to bomb forwards
Jones - would get to establish himself as a CB, yet still making use of some of his other attributes
Smalling - more chance to establish himself as a CB
Evans - would relish having license to bring the ball out from defence
Carrick - could play either in the midfield two, or against weaker sides as a ball-playing centre back
Cleverley, Fellaini - neither look good enough in a midfield two, they would benefit from being in a midfield three IMO

I was thinking along the same lines today watching the Netherlands-Chile match. His 3-5-2 really would be ideal for the type of players we have. Obviously this is all in theory and is fun to speculate about but I really think it would put our players in better/more comfortable positions to succeed. I think Rafa, Mata, and Evans would benefit the most.
 
The idea of 3-5-2 is really growing on me. I think that formation would be beneficial for pretty much all of our players (except Nani and Young, who are shit anyway)

Rooney and Van Persie - both could start in their best position, without it hindering the balance of the team
Mata - could start in his best position, with two lethal forwards to create for
Welbeck - more games centrally, rather than out wide
Januzaj - would get to play centrally
Kagawa - he would have to compete with Mata but he would get opportunities at no.10 rather than out wide
Evra - less defensive responsibility
Rafael - more license to bomb forwards
Jones - would get to establish himself as a CB, yet still making use of some of his other attributes
Smalling - more chance to establish himself as a CB
Evans - would relish having license to bring the ball out from defence
Carrick - could play either in the midfield two, or against weaker sides as a ball-playing centre back
Cleverley, Fellaini - neither look good enough in a midfield two, they would benefit from being in a midfield three IMO

you are spot on. even if we bring in a couple of top class midfielders 3-5-2 still seems to benefit most of our current players.
 
Well, seriously, nobody knows how LvG will deploy the team. He prefers the traditional Dutch 4-3-3 but he is also flexible enough to acknowledge a teams weaknesses and adapt accordingly.

Would really be interesting to see how he works with the United squad. I just can't wait for the season to start already. :wenger::wenger::wenger:
 
The idea of 3-5-2 is really growing on me. I think that formation would be beneficial for pretty much all of our players (except Nani and Young, who are shit anyway)

The thing that worries me most about 3-5-2 with our current squad is that we only have three centre-backs, none of which have proved that we can rely on them week-in week-out. I'm also not convinced with the Rooney-Van Persie partnership, even in a 3-5-2. It works for Netherlands because Van Persie's partner is Robben who runs and stretches defences (leaving spaces for his partner to exploit) like neither Rooney or Van Persie are capable of doing. Honestly think LvG is more likely to pair Van Persie with Welbeck or even Januzaj if he went for two up front.
 
The thing that worries me most about 3-5-2 with our current squad is that we only have three centre-backs, none of which have proved that we can rely on them week-in week-out. I'm also not convinced with the Rooney-Van Persie partnership, even in a 3-5-2. It works for Netherlands because Van Persie's partner is Robben who runs and stretches defences (leaving spaces for his partner to exploit) like neither Rooney or Van Persie are capable of doing. Honestly think LvG is more likely to pair Van Persie with Welbeck or even Januzaj if he went for two up front.
Welbeck can do what Robben does, he's quick, very mobile and can run at defenders too.. Rooney can play in Sneijder's role in such a formation. Also such a formation would be pefect for our fullbacks.. Rafael and Evra will have so much joy on the wings if we use a 3-5-2..
 
I like his mentality

With a guy like van Gaal and his attitude towards the game, it really does make you wonder what in god's name we were thinking in hiring someone like Moyes. Not saying that we could have gotten van Gaal at the same time last year, but I'll be damned if he's not the closest manager to Fergie that I've seen in terms of personality and attitude.
 
How do you guys even know how he plays? You lot must watch a lot of football. Funny place the caf is. Last year people wanted him for 30 million and rated him better than Fellaini. Now he's just crap.
 
Didn't he say he's flexible? Anyway I like this style of him even more, it's mix of counterattacking football and strategic plan, as long as it isn't too negative I don't think anyone would complain, except the losing team. It's pretty impressive that he can make the most out of Holland national team (which 60--70% their players are average IMO), I feel more optimistic about Cleverley's future now.
not so much complain, more a slight disappointment, as i was hoping Van gaal's appointment meant we would play more free flowing attacking football, which we havn't really played regularly since 2009, especially against the big teams.

having said that, it seems to be a very similar philosophy to fergies final years at united, who really became the master of making average player look better by getting the right tactics for the right game, even if that was at the expense of playing attacking football.

so yeah Van Gaal has been incredibly impressive, and all points towards an incredibly bright(the futures orange) future.
 
How do you guys even know how he plays? You lot must watch a lot of football. Funny place the caf is. Last year people wanted him for 30 million and rated him better than Fellaini. Now he's just crap.

Not sure if wrong thread or I'm missing something...
 
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