I can't wait for him to officially take over. The whole club will receive an injection of quality, not to mention tactical knowledge. Excited isn't the word.
Hilarious how so many people leave Rooney out of their line-ups. It's getting desperate. As if one of his first acts will be to go in and say to the man who has an average of a goal every other game over the last 10 years "I couldn't possibly use you". These aren't favourite line-ups it's just a 'how can I arrange the team purposefully leaving Rooney out?' thing.
It's also funny how everyone agrees van Gaal is likely to go 3 up top but suddenly when they realise one of those three is very likely to be Rooney it suddenly all changes. So we guess 3 up top but when we do the formations we put just one up there, because we don't want to be seen to include Rooney because real fans hold grudges....or something.
How do you think Louis van Gaal will include RVP, Rooney and Mata?
Valencia is staying because of his new contract.
Januzaj, Zaha and Lingard should all be given a chance.
Nani has shown enough times how good he is on his day therefore Louis van Gaal should be given a chance to get him performing consistently.
Welbeck would be third striker after Rooney and RVP assuming Hernandez leaves, but he should be given game time out wide. In Louis van Gaal's system he will be tasked with much less defensive work and far more attacking as a winger therefore he might perform better than he has.
Even if he moves Young on that's 6 players for two positions.
If Di Maria and Sanchez are available we should obviously bid since they will be available at a very fair price but we should not go out of our way to sign a wide player.
We should focus on signing a top level centre back and a top level number six taking our signings to four players. If a player like Vidal is available then obviously we need to be in for him also but otherwise in terms of non-oppurtunistic signings, I would sooner spend another £60m on a centre back and number 6 taking our spend to £120m and then look to offload players we get good bids for to lower our net spend.
So how we include Rooney with the other two is an issue but we can fit Welbeck in there no worries?
It's funny how in every either/or scenario it's ALWAYS Rooney that misses out. Even if RVP breaks his leg in pre-season training I bet that "where will Rooney play if Wilson starts?" questions will be asked
I wasn't initially against the Moyes appointment (perhaps a bit sceptical, but definitely not negative). I think it's striking how much positivity there is around United this summer compared to last.
Much better for LVG to follow the man that followed the man.
He will pick them based on merit
I understand where Plugsy is coming from - it's fashionable to detest Rooney amongst some
It's laughable for people to argue that Kagawa should be in the side ahead of him
Mata and Rooney will be a toss up for 10 I'd say and Van Gaal will not bring reputation or history into his selection
I think Welbeck and Januzaj out wide would be fine considering the quality we have up front. It would give us pace at least. Herrera will improve us dramatically in the middle and by all accounts we're still after someone to partner him so the midfield shouldn't be an issue for once.
Herrera (New CM)
Januzaj Mata Welbeck
Van Persie
If we could get di Maria or Sanchez then we should go for it mind but I'd be happy with that this season if we don't
I think nani has overstayed his welcome, young is the big one to offload 160k of wages off our books, along with fletcher Anderson and looks like fellaini. You add Hernandez and bebe that frees up allot of wages
Di Maria and carvalho looks like realistic targets, who could replace all of fletcher Anderson fellaini nani young and bebe
I think van Gaal will do what he's shown at the World Cup and set up his team to the benefit from the strengths that it has. The idea a player like Rooney will be cast aside is typical wishful thinking. When it comes to including Kagawa, with the greatest of respect, it just gets silly. Even Welbeck, the same player who people for the past year have been saying has been 'played out of position', gets in ahead of him playing in that same 'out of position' position.
I understand where Plugsy is coming from - it's fashionable to detest Rooney amongst some. It's laughable for people to argue that Kagawa should be in the side ahead of him
I would sooner a centre back than di Maria still.
But I didn't say anything that even remotely sounded like 'detesting' Rooney. Should Kagawa get in the team ahead of Rooney? not a chance. But Mata is better than him and that's not even debatable at this stage.
If Van Gaal can somehow find a way to make it work then brilliant, I'm all for it. I can't see it though.
A CM and a CB is a must, and a RB with rafeal's injury prone record
I'm not sure if this is serious...
LM / LAM in Moyes system is not the same as LW in van Gaal's preferred 4-2-1-3.
Louis van Gaal expects his wingers to attack ferociously and so gives them less defensive responsibility. It's a system much better suited to Welbeck's attributes than Moyes' or even Ferguson's.
Just because he will be on the left flank does not mean Louis van Gaal intends to use him as did Moyes and just because our team on paper looks not too unlike that of Moyes does it mean Louis van Gaal will play football like David Moyes.
From your posts it seems as though you think Rooney's attributes are better suited to the left flank than Welbeck's.
I'm not sure how much money you expect us to spend. A top quality number 6 and centre back will cost another £60m therefore Varela or Janko will need to be promoted.
I do not think we need kagwa , when we have mata, makes no sense keeping both
I think he's a good squad player to have though. I reckon Van Gaal will bring a lot more energy to the squad (Herrera is a good start) and that should help Kagawa a lot.
I agree he hasn't exactly been brilliant so far like but I can see him improving a lot next year.
I think you can get great value from the CB and fullback positions. In midfield is where we need to spend big bucks
How many goals are we anticipating if we were to line up with Mata, Welbeck and RVP as our 'front' three? RVP should get 20+. Mata 8? Welbeck 6?
For a side that scored fewer goals last year than it has in years, it's funny how so many people are adamant that we can just from that starting point remove Rooney's average of about 20 goals a season from it and it'll be fine.
This is the problem.
Fans complain about the squad but then they want 'great value'.
We should look to sign a top level centre back, we should be willing to spend £30m - £35m if it is required.
Quality over quantity.
Granted i was only a kid at the time, and my opinion hasn't changed much since then. van Gaal is the most progressive coach out there, almost untouchable with his methods. Alway's been an inspiration wherever iv'e seen him manage. He's Dutch, he forgives, forgets, and learns from it.
What do you mean by he is the most progressive coach out there?
In do think jones and smallen could become great CB's, they got over their injury problems. I do not think they have been helped by a midfield so out of it's depth, that even the most average of teams can by pass out midfield. You build a great midfield that can dominate games , it makes life much easier for our defenders
This is the problem.
Fans complain about the squad but then they want 'great value'.
We should look to sign a top level centre back, we should be willing to spend £30m - £35m if it is required.
Quality over quantity.
We have three centre backs in Smalling, Jones and Evans. We have had injury problems with these players.
We need another centre back, we have too many squad players, we should be looking to add world class quality not a Newcastle United level centre back.
Granted i was only a kid at the time, and my opinion hasn't changed much since then. van Gaal is the most progressive coach out there, almost untouchable with his methods. Alway's been an inspiration wherever iv'e seen him manage. He's Dutch, he forgives, forgets, and learns from it.
Can't believe some people want Nani to stay. He's been here 7 years, has never performed consistently, and has been absolute garbage for the past few years. He's a waste of space.
Can't believe some people want Nani to stay. He's been here 7 years, has never performed consistently, and has been absolute garbage for the past few years. He's a waste of space.
I like Nani a lot but if he has to go so be it. No man is bigger than the team or LVG.
Rooney won't get into the team because an average of 22 goals a season over a 10 year period won't possibly be accommodated but Nani was good for few weeks about three years ago, so he's definitely in.
I'd possibly have kept him over Young and Valencia, but there's not much in it, and you could make an argument to say they should all be let go. I certainly wouldn't expect more than one of the three to survive what will presumably be a significant clearing of deadwood this summer, and it looks like it will be Valencia that remains.
Rooney won't get into the team because an average of 22 goals a season over a 10 year period won't possibly be accommodated but Nani was good for few weeks about three years ago, so he's definitely in.
