LA Galaxy are not a ''pub'' team just because we beat them 7-0 as Roma weren't a pub team when we beat them 7-1 in 2007. And yes, Herrera should be one of the first names on the team sheet because he's that good and that better than the other options in the middle.
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LA Galaxy are not a ''pub'' team just because we beat them 7-0 as Roma weren't a pub team when we beat them 7-1 in 2007. And yes, Herrera should be one of the first names on the team sheet because he's that good and that better than the other options in the middle.
I am not exaggerating. He's a class player and I am talking in terms of potential. He has the ability to become the best midfielder in the world.
Easy. He's class no doubt, but he's not a world class player yet and doesn't have best midfielder around potential... Once he develops to his best he probably still won't be a starter for Spain, given they have Koke and Thiago who are more promising but similar players already. He can become a top, top player no doubt, but some perspective is needed.
Not every player in your squad will be like that. Whoever we put in midfield with Herrera will be there to complement him. He's going to be the fulcrum of our midfield and in Mata, we have another wonderful player technically.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, I grew up watching Scholes, Keane, Becks & Giggs, a truly world class midfield, we have been starved of this for years, this is what we should be aiming for at Utd.
I disagree, I grew up watching Scholes, Keane, Becks & Giggs, a truly world class midfield, we have been starved of this for years, this is what we should be aiming for at Utd.
Maybe it's because I've been so impressed by him at Bilbao too that I am very bullish about him. Not only that, I think Van Gaal's the perfect manager for a player like Herrera. Think he'll be a vital part of Spain's midfield in the years to come.
I am sorry but this is just too much.
I'll be proved right.
I hope too.
No doubt Herrera is a very good player but you made it sound just too unrealistic.
Don't get me wrong, I think he can be one of the best midfielders in the league, but saying he's going to be the best midfielder in the world is a bit much. He definitely is very talented and IMO this season will be up there with our most important players, but there are so many top class midfielders around these days. He's turning 25 soon too so it's not like he's a youngster, he's a top class player who is close to his prime, just not Vidal/Modric/Schweinsteiger level.
Jesus, you're asking for it with that kind of nonsense.
I always find these comments strange. He hasn't been surrounded with the quality that those players have. Bilbao are a good side but they're not star studded.
One of the players you mention, Modric, used to go missing all the time in big games for Spurs. He has progressed to become the player he is at Madrid but I certainly wouldn't say he's more talented than Herrera. In fact, I think the opposite is true but only time will judge.
He's a good player but I think you're overrating him massively. He's not one of the worlds elite players as you're making out and while they are very different players Kroos is a level or two above Herrera and I suspect it will probably stay that way.
Herrera given the platform has the talent to be elite, is just a matter of whether he can get there and show it especially in the big games. I have a feeling he will.
Seriously, calm yourself down.
Iniesta and Xavi are 2 of the best passers in the history of football, Herrera has not shown anything like the inner genius those 2 possess vision wise. If he is that good passing-wise, why has he never even played for Spain a team who have made possession their forte? That's right because there's been a glut of Spanish players in the past few years simply at a higher level than him, which is not a slight on himself at all. He's never played in the CL, he's never played an international, classing his ability alongside those names is hyperbole.
Based on what? Talk about the attributes of the players rather than hype. Herrera's control and awareness is every bit as good as Kroos', his passing range is similar while you might say Kroos is more metronomic and he is far more dynamic than Kroos and far better defensively. I do rate Kroos for what he is but I never saw him as a potential Paul Scholes because he just isn't that rounded.
Again, for those who need it spelled out (as so many around here do), i am talking in terms of attributes and potential. I am not talking in terms of established stardom. Please stop putting words in my mouth and have the manners to read what's actually been said.
I agree with VAN ROMPUY, now back to the tweets people!
I think if papers are to believed and van Gaal rejected Kroos it's because we needed someone like Herrera that adds dynamism and defensive cover to our midfield that Kroos wouldn't have provided. The way we're playing with 2 central midfielders and Mata ahead of them what we needed was someone to that has both the ability to play and provide defensive cover, something in which Herrera is much better than Kroos.
I love how we always end up comparing players when we sign someone, still thinking about the one that got away.
I love how we always end up comparing players when we sign someone, still thinking about the one that got away.
I think if papers are to believed and van Gaal rejected Kroos it's because we needed someone like Herrera that adds dynamism and defensive cover to our midfield that Kroos wouldn't have provided. The way we're playing with 2 central midfielders and Mata ahead of them what we needed was someone to that has both the ability to play and provide defensive cover, something in which Herrera is much better than Kroos.
I love how we always end up comparing players when we sign someone, still thinking about the one that got away.
Kroos made more tackles than Lahm and was in Germany's top 5 for that at the world cup. So I doubt it.
One player is at a top club and if he becomes available Real Madrid jump on him to secure his transfer for £20 million even with his contract running down.
The other player is at Bilbao and had already agreed to join us last season, with nobody else willing to pay his release fee.
I expect its simply down to Ander being far easier to sign that we got him and not Kroos.
Johnstone, Blackett, James and Cleverley in for DDG, Shaw, Smalling and Fletcher
Herrera played full 90 and he's starting again?
Hames
I think the opposite. I'm glad we've got a man in charge who will back himself in what he is doing is right regardless of what the press, players or man in the street thinks about it.
Good managers back themselves when it comes to big decisions regardless of how it might be perceived by others. Fergie always did, Mourinho bombed Chelsea's Player of the Year for the previous two seasons out the door within six months of returning. Contrast this with Moyes who was too scared to take a half-fit van Persie off against Newcastle last season because he was worried about the crowd reaction.
Any manager who doesn't have unshakable belief in himself and his own decision making will be swallowed up by this job. Last season showed that. I like the fact that van Gaal will never fall into the trap.
Expensive, but he'll fit their style well and they could use some pace in their attack. They can now play:
-------Mandzukic------
Turan----Koke---Griezmann
--Tiago/Saul-Gabi-----
as their front 6, which looks pretty damn good. Maybe Griezmann as the 10 and Koke out right, alternatively.
I have not seen enough of Herrera to know what level he can reach but Herman makes a good point about the level of player he has been playing with up to now versus what he will be playing with now at Utd. Also lots of folk on here tend not to rate a player unless he plays for one of the fashionable teams and even though they may have not seen a lot of Herrera themselves assume he can't become one of the worlds best cms as he has not been snapped up by Real or Barca. I hope you're right Herman pal I hope you're right!
I'll guarantee that Van Gaal won't give a shit what the fans think of any of his transfer dealings - and not should he.
He needs to be making the decisions, not the board or the fans.
And as it is I don't see what the issue is. Plenty of time left in the window and nothing likely to happen until they're back from the tour anyway.
Genuinely someone tell me what he has that possesses people to suggest this?
He'll never be anything more than a consistent 5-6/10 player and thats nowhere near good enough.
Agreed.
It's the logical choice as he's playing 90 mins but still the boys nowhere good enough for United. Hope he's moved on and a youth gets a fair crack as Cleverley has more than one and not produced.
He can keep what he has got for all I care, as long as he can win the League with them. Simples.
If he can't, then it is time to get the wallet out.
I agree Barney but coming from you is like Jimmy Saville telling Rolf Harris he's a bad role model!
Herrera played full 90 and he's starting again?
relax big boy, he'll only play 45
No, he's going to play every minute of every game for the next 10 years and become the undisputed best player in the galaxy. Were you not watching that one game he played for us?
Cut us some slack, we have a decent midfielder at last!
Only the galaxy?
Indeed. I suspect he knows what he wants and the wheels are in motion to get them.
I'm not panicked to be honest. I think we need additions and the signs are that the club are working on it. I'm excited about next year and the future.
Oh yes, game on.
Let's get the football going. Dead keen to see the results of the tour. Last year's tour really was a hint of the future under Moyes. Couldn't handle any more of that.
Mirror saying Vidal back on. Steve Bates is hack behind story - he is a good journo.
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