Qatar to be cleared of corruption for 2022 bid

It's almost like Blatter WANTS a European Super League set up so he can die in peace.
 
No surprises here. It's almost certain to go ahead. Clearly, too much money has already been put toward this.
 
11101 said:
I just hope it all comes crashing down before Blatter kicks the bucket so he can see his legacy torn away from him.
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Raoul said:
Blatter could be dead by then and leave this mess for everyone to clean up.
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Rykker_4united said:
Blatter will be dead before this world cup takes place anyways.
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You know the boring, mature side of me thought "Come on lads, he's a complete tool but don't start bringing his death up. It's only football, it's not life and death."

Then I remembered this:

Also, I maintain the right to be 'bitter' about the fact that 1200 people have already died working on Qatar's preparations for the tournament. How is that remotely acceptable?!
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And then I thought "Actually, this is a matter of life and death."

If the world cup was to be held in any European nation and 1200 people died preparing that country for a tournament that's still 8 years away, the football world would go crazy. This whole situation is absurd and, in a perfect world, criminal.

Edit: Sorry but I just realised how disgraceful it is that a sports tournament is claiming victims at a greater rate than some armies. It's football and we're talking about how many people have died....
 
Tyrion said:
You know the boring, mature side of me thought "Come on lads, he's a complete tool but don't start bringing his death up. It's only football, it's not life and death."

Then I remembered this:



And then I thought "Actually, this is a matter of life and death."

If the world cup was to be held in any European nation and 1200 people died preparing that country for a tournament that's still 8 years away, the football world would go crazy. This whole situation is absurd and, in a perfect world, criminal.
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most those people aren't 'people' in the eyes of Qatar. They are slaves and their death means nothing. Mostly foreign slaves at that.
 
Tyrion said:
You know the boring, mature side of me thought "Come on lads, he's a complete tool but don't start bringing his death up. It's only football, it's not life and death."

Then I remembered this:



And then I thought "Actually, this is a matter of life and death."

If the world cup was to be held in any European nation and 1200 people died preparing that country for a tournament that's still 8 years away, the football world would go crazy. This whole situation is absurd and, in a perfect world, criminal.
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Also, none of us were being offensive. He is an old man. In 8 years he very well may die of natural causes.
 
Rykker_4united said:
Also, none of us were being offensive. He is an old man. In 8 years he very well may die of natural causes.
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True. I wasn't having a go at yous or anything. It's just that normally I'd see bringing up someone's death (esp. as you're criticising them) as being disrespectful but now, if he died between now and this World Cup he'd be joined with thousands of others who've died trying to set up his vanity project/cash cow.
 
I am amazed some people still fall for Blatter's line about spreading the game. He is just following the Ecclestone model of taking the sport away from its traditional base to highly corrupt, emerging countries as it is more lucrative for the governing body. Doing it with the World Cup is even worse however, as aside from minor issues like use of slave labour, being a major backer of Islamist terror and societal norms there not being exactly conducive to a global carnival, the use of Qatar directly impacts the sport by screwing up the football calendar.
 
The only surprising thing about this is the possibility that anyone expected the outcome of the "investigation" to be anything else.
 
So, are any countries thinking of boycotting this absurd tournament yet? Wouldn't that be the respectable thing to do?
The difficult part is that the players only have a few tournaments like this in their career. But surely they are interested in human rights as well?
 
All we need now is a FIFA statement at how tough they are on bribery & corruption, after all they made a huge thing about those watches and that's clearly a much bigger thing than 1200 deaths, so far, on the Qatar WC.
 
Maagge said:
So, are any countries thinking of boycotting this absurd tournament yet? Wouldn't that be the respectable thing to do?
The difficult part is that the players only have a few tournaments like this in their career. But surely they are interested in human rights as well?
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Boycotting it would cost money, I think. And at the end of the day, it's all about the money.
 
Interesting.

  • England's 2018 bid laid out around £35,000 supporting a Caribbean Football Union "gala dinner" in what is described as an "attempt to curry favor" with Mr Warner.

  • Michael J Garcia says: "England 2018 met Warner's expectations "time and again... thereby damaging the image of FIFA and the bidding process"

  • Damningly, England "attempted to satisfy" improper requests by at least two members of the Fifa Exco... "hereby jeopardizing the integrity of the bidding process"
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/live-fifa-world-cup-corruption-4618930
 
That's a typical response you'd expect of an organisation like Fifa. The FA threatened to show them up so they go out all guns blazing in an attempt to discredit anything the FA says. Its amazing they still get away with it.
 
No surprise in that outcome, Absolute shambolic the way FIFA is run. The problem is no one is going to stop Blatter and his cronies ruining the game the way they are at the moment, Until Blatter dies that is.

People talk about how modern day football has ruined the game, and this is a prime example why.
 
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  • England's 2018 bid laid out around £35,000 supporting a Caribbean Football Union "gala dinner" in what is described as an "attempt to curry favor" with Mr Warner.
  • Michael J Garcia says: "England 2018 met Warner's expectations "time and again... thereby damaging the image of FIFA and the bidding process"
  • Damningly, England "attempted to satisfy" improper requests by at least two members of the Fifa Exco... "hereby jeopardizing the integrity of the bidding process"
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Is that the best they can come up with? The FA's half-arsed attempts to play the game without properly breaking the rules, while everybody else does whatever the feck they want?

How stupid does FIFA think we are?

The FA shouldn't take this. But they will.
 
Maagge said:
So, are any countries thinking of boycotting this absurd tournament yet? Wouldn't that be the respectable thing to do?
The difficult part is that the players only have a few tournaments like this in their career. But surely they are interested in human rights as well?
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Simple for me... European FAs (and hopefully UEFA) just completely disassociate themselves from FIFA and set-up their own world body, with it's own world cup. All countries around the world are free to chose which one to be affiliated with... but guess who's got the sponsors? Pretty sure the big South American clubs would work out which side their bread is buttered on pretty quick.

Worst case scenario we end up with a split, like in darts. One world Cup featuring England, Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Brazil, Argentina etc, and one featuing the giants of Africa and the middle east, bankrolled by the latter (who end up winning it because they buy all the best players from teh African countries).
 
Its shocking that an investigator they appointed came to this conclusion. Its like employing a defendants mum to be judge and jury.
 
Sir A1ex said:
Simple for me... European FAs (and hopefully UEFA) just completely disassociate themselves from FIFA and set-up their own world body, with it's own world cup. All countries around the world are free to chose which one to be affiliated with... but guess who's got the sponsors? Pretty sure the big South American clubs would work out which side their bread is buttered on pretty quick.

Worst case scenario we end up with a split, like in darts. One world Cup featuring England, Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Brazil, Argentina etc, and one featuing the giants of Africa and the middle east, bankrolled by the latter (who end up winning it because they buy all the best players from teh African countries).
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You're ignoring the real problem here, corruption in fifa mainly stems from corrupted football associations and they get to vote on everything.

Breaking away from fifa will just create another corrupted organization.
 
Why don't all the major Fa's take a stand, the the likes of the English FA along with the Spanish, French and Germans put their foot down and said they won't play it it then it would be moved! It only takes one FA to get the ball rolling!
 
ivaldo said:
Its shocking that an investigator they appointed came to this conclusion. Its like employing a defendants mum to be judge and jury.
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It's the most open and public case of corruption you could ever think off. Literally everyone in the world knows Fifa is corrupt to the bone and this investigation is clear proof. Meanwhile, Fifa and Blatter himself surely know that everyone knows, but they just say "no there's no corruption" without blinking, and everyone just sort of goes their own way. It's too absurd for words. At some point in the future people will look back on this wondering how on earth this was allowed to go on for so long.
 
fecking disgrace, every FA should boycott this World Cup.
 
SirAF said:
fecking disgrace, every FA should boycott this World Cup.
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Said this from the start. If all the big footballing countries refused to take part, then surely it would have to be moved. Either that, or Qatar hold it without any of the big countries there, which would serve Fifa right.
As for the whole process, the fact that England have come out of this as the ones in the wrong is fecking hilarious. What an absolute farce.
 
devil in me said:
Said this from the start. If all the big footballing countries refused to take part, then surely it would have to be moved. Either that, or Qatar hold it without any of the big countries there, which would serve Fifa right.
As for the whole process, the fact that England have come out of this as the ones in the wrong is fecking hilarious. What an absolute farce.
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Absolutely agree, if this is not resolved (and by that I mean to take the fecking cup away from Qatar) it could/should spell the end of FIFA as we know it today.
 
Someone said:
Interesting.

  • England's 2018 bid laid out around £35,000 supporting a Caribbean Football Union "gala dinner" in what is described as an "attempt to curry favor" with Mr Warner.
  • Michael J Garcia says: "England 2018 met Warner's expectations "time and again... thereby damaging the image of FIFA and the bidding process"
  • Damningly, England "attempted to satisfy" improper requests by at least two members of the Fifa Exco... "hereby jeopardizing the integrity of the bidding process"
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/live-fifa-world-cup-corruption-4618930
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So, Fifa clear Qatar and manage to have a swipe at Blatter's scapegoat Jack Warner (who conveniently no longer works for Fifa) and England, the country whose Press reports and FA have been criticised by Blatter in the past for being critical of Blatter and Fifa.

Why am I not surprised! The Sponsors and Nations need to pull out, but it will never happen!
 
What are the rest of the nations views on this? I'm assuming that we aren't the only country that absolutely do not want this tournament in Qatar.
 
Glad that's been sorted. I know I'll rest easier now that I know the truth.

In other news: that bloke who ate that woman's face off has been freed after he conducted a thorough investigation and found that he hadn't committed the crime.
 
Witchking said:
2018 & 2022 are not going to be good world cups.
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I see no reason why 2018 wont be a good WC, 2022 we shall see.


Jammydodger7 said:
Why don't all the major Fa's take a stand, the the likes of the English FA along with the Spanish, French and Germans put their foot down and said they won't play it it then it would be moved! It only takes one FA to get the ball rolling!
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IIRC the Spanish FA actually had a pact with Qatar to share votes and it was actually one of the big reasons that Qatar got so many votes so you can forget about them boycotting!
 
Rood said:
I see no reason why 2018 wont be a good WC, 2022 we shall see.
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Aren't some of the teams against skin colour? From what little i read, there are skin head groups present in Russia and they might target fans coming in from other countries. I feel it could be a bleak world cup.I could be wrong and i am willing to be corrected on this.
 
Witchking said:
Aren't some of the teams against skin colour? From what little i read, there are skin head groups present in Russia and they might target fans coming in from other countries. I feel it could be a bleak world cup.I could be wrong and i am willing to be corrected on this.
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Russia do have issues with racism and also homophobia in fact, but it is a minority of fans and I cant see it creating much of a problem with the WC.
Moscow hosted a great CL Final and the last Euros went off without incident despite similar issues with skinhead groups in Ukraine.
 
Invictus said:
@Crono

Blimey that's rather unnerving !

So lemme get this straight, human trafficking is permissible by law out there ?
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You are talking about a country were a raped woman can be accused of having sex outside of marriage.
 
So now we are the bad guys? Really?
The problem with the UK, if you can call it a problem, is that we try to play by the rules. Not much use when no other f*cker does and nobody does anything about it.
Was listening to TalkSport this morning and apparently this investigation included the 2018 process as well and the Russians did not cooperate at all. Guess what? They are apparently fine as well.....
Would absolutely love us to boycott both tournaments. Even if we are the only ones. There comes a point when someone has to stand up and say "This is a f*king pisstake".
 
I hope to feck the whole tournament is an absolute shambles. Does anyone else think that fans will completely boycott the tournament and none of the games will sell out? Personally, even if Ireland made it to Qatar and I had the money and time off work to go I wouldn't. Not while I know how many people died in this mess. I really hope the majority of people around the world feel the same way.

The only way the corrupt scum at FIFA will learn is if feck all people go and they make no money from it.
 
Rood said:
I see no reason why 2018 wont be a good WC, 2022 we shall see.




IIRC the Spanish FA actually had a pact with Qatar to share votes and it was actually one of the big reasons that Qatar got so many votes so you can forget about them boycotting!
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Even still if just say, the engish fa and another big nation pulled out, this would lead to other doing so, the USA FA would be huge too seen as FIFA are trying to really break the USA, as an Irish person I'd be for the FAI pulling out but I don't think FIFA would care too much if the small nation like Ireland pulled out...They can't have a World Cup with just Spain as the only big nation playing against the likes of Qatar and every other corrupt nation
 
The Purley King said:
So now we are the bad guys? Really?
The problem with the UK, if you can call it a problem, is that we try to play by the rules. Not much use when no other f*cker does and nobody does anything about it.
Was listening to TalkSport this morning and apparently this investigation included the 2018 process as well and the Russians did not cooperate at all. Guess what? They are apparently fine as well.....
Would absolutely love us to boycott both tournaments. Even if we are the only ones. There comes a point when someone has to stand up and say "This is a f*king pisstake".
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Yes I agree, the English, US, Italian, German and Brazilian FA are probably 3 of the FA's that could make most of an impact. If all 5 of the boycotted, the tournament wouldn't go ahead
 
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